Haswell G3220 Benchmarks & No. of EU's in GT1

[el etro]

Anyone know of a comparison between G620/G1610/G3220 or similar in terms of power consumption?

Their TDPs should probably reflect in the max power consumption(65W/54W/55W). The thing i don't know to tell you is average power usage in most common workloads like web surfing. By i know it seems that Haswells have only sightly(close to imperceptible) higher power draw on these non-100% load/stress situations. I only don't have exact numbers to show you, maybe Tom's tests can give an exact idea of this.

 

[escrow4]

Should have saved cash and gone for a G1610. Put it this way, if a Pentium is sufficient pocket the $20-$30 and get a Celeron.

EDIT: It also seems indeed that 2560x1600 required either Displayport or HDMI 1.4 or dual-link DVI.

 

[CHADBOGA]

Should have saved cash and gone for a G1610. Put it this way, if a Pentium is sufficient pocket the $20-$30 and get a Celeron.

The G1610 is Ivy Bridge based, not Haswell based, so a question mark over whether the skipping issue in the IGP exists.

Additionally, by going with a Haswell based system instead of an Ivy Bridge, in a few years time if he wants to give the system to one of his children, Haswell based CPU's should still be around, if we want to upgrade the CPU.

 

[mikk]

Intel video drivers giving you grief over "minimum requirements" is usually because of;

A) needing to install all motherboard/chipset drivers FIRST
and
B) Installing .NET framework of 3.5 or 4 FIRST.

The main reason is an unsupported device ID in the driver inf.

 

[rootheday3]

The main reason is an unsupported device ID in the driver inf.

this. I think I saw a forum thread somewhere else on this topic and it seems like there was a mistake in the inf and it missed one of the device ids for Haswell Pentium/Celeron. IIRC, they said a fix would be released as part of a general driver update in the next couple of days.

 

[Blue_Max]

I'm revisiting this thread, now more interested in its CPU performance! Not the IGP, just sheer app/game performance... wish Anandtech added it to the bench comparison utility!

 

[SPBHM]

I'm revisiting this thread, now more interested in its CPU performance! Not the IGP, just sheer app/game performance... wish Anandtech added it to the bench comparison utility!

here http://pclab.pl/art54829.html

and yes, it's a shame, the most popular websites don't have any lower cost Haswell review.

 

[Blue_Max]

here http://pclab.pl/art54829.html

and yes, it's a shame, the most popular websites don't have any lower cost Haswell review.

I'll check it out. I applaud Anandtech for having stuff like the G620 and G850 in there... time for some additions.

I. Love. That. Tool.

Daaaang... what a great performing chip! Pity there's some kind of bug that Intel dual-cores don't play well with GeForce cards... I'd need at least the new i3 to pair with my GTX 660.

 

[ET]

here http://pclab.pl/art54829.html

and yes, it's a shame, the most popular websites don't have any lower cost Haswell review.

Thanks for the link. I'm planning to buy a new PC for my father, and the Pentium G3220 looks like it will fill the CPU slot nicely.

 

[gammaray]

All in all, I am amazed at how much single core performance you can get these days, for such a small outlay of money.

Now if I can just sort out the IGP issues. D:

I agree with you, i just built a pc with a G3320 paired with an Asrock H81M-HDS 1150, and i am amazed how fast this is. I ve put in a 128gb ssd and 8gb of 1333ram.

 

[CHADBOGA]

I agree with you, i just built a pc with a G3320 paired with an Asrock H81M-HDS 1150, and i am amazed how fast this is. I ve put in a 128gb ssd and 8gb of 1333ram.

My friend's i7 860 computer appears to be on the way out, so I am going to get him a G3220 setup to replace it.

He doesn't need the extra cores and threads the i7 has, and will get a boost in most things he does, due to Haswell's IPC improvements.

 

[gammaray]

make sure you get 1333 ram, cos i think 1600 mhz won't work.

 

[spdfreak]

Hmmm, I've got a couple of these 3220's left over from this experiment and I'm trying to decide what to do with them. I think one of them might be my new HTPC (to replace the old Q6600 system) and another might end up as a general use office computer for a friend. I'm not sure why there is so much consternation about the IGP when you can buy 5450's for 10.00 AR. I think I will also use the AS Rock H81M board since they are very cheap with lots of features. Any other suggestions for 3220 uses?

 

[Charlie98]

25% stronger CPU than my sold-out G620. Nice.

As shown in my sig... I have a G620-powered HTPC... it rocks. I have no problem powering my 1080P TV, although I put a dedicated GPU in to try to get better Netflix playback (which is the fault of Netflix, not the iGPU in the G620 chip... the HD 6450 didn't help.)

I agree with you, i just built a pc with a G3320 paired with an Asrock H81M-HDS 1150, and i am amazed how fast this is. I ve put in a 128gb ssd and 8gb of 1333ram.

I also just built a PC with the G3220 Haswell Pentium chip and, basically, those identical components... I almost think the G620 is a better chip based on the responsiveness and basic use. Just my .02 worth. It is fast, but not as fast as my G620...

Having said that, the OP's problems with the resolution... I would just install a suitable GPU replacement for the Intel iGPU. It's low-cost (I got my HD6450 card for something like $25 AR) and be done with it.

 

[spdfreak]

Just noticed on NE that there is now a Gigabyte H81 board that claims support for 4K resolution over HDMI. That's impressive...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...57&ignorebbr=1

 

[SPBHM]

Just noticed on NE that there is now a Gigabyte H81 board that claims support for 4K resolution over HDMI. That's impressive...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...57&ignorebbr=1

4K at 30Hz

 

[spdfreak]

4K at 30Hz

Right, that's all any of the current HDMI connections are capable of although the new 18Gbps redmere cables are available now at Monoprice. It will take a while for everything to get to 60Hz but it will happen.

 

[CHADBOGA]

I also just built a PC with the G3220 Haswell Pentium chip and, basically, those identical components... I almost think the G620 is a better chip based on the responsiveness and basic use. Just my .02 worth. It is fast, but not as fast as my G620...

Why would that be the case?

The G620 runs at a 400Mhz slower clockspeed and is based on the Sandy Bridge architecture.

Having said that, the OP's problems with the resolution... I would just install a suitable GPU replacement for the Intel iGPU. It's low-cost (I got my HD6450 card for something like $25 AR) and be done with it.

As the user "Insert_Nickname" correctly pointed out, if one has a dual-link connection to their monitor, you will be struggling to find a motherboard that supports it.

That was the problem I had.

You can forget about running dual-link DVI on (almost all) Intel-based boards. They simply do not support it. You have to use displayport for running resolutions over 1200p...

 

[spdfreak]

Why would that be the case?


As the user "Insert_Nickname" correctly pointed out, if one has a dual-link connection to their monitor, you will be struggling to find a motherboard that supports it.

That was the problem I had.

So you are saying that a dual link DVI won't work on an Intel board even with a dedicated GPU? I thought you meant that the dual link DVI won't work with the integrated graphics. We used an ASROCK H81 board with a Nvidia 630 card outputting to a 4K TV at 3840x2160 over HDMI with no problems...

 

[Charlie98]

Why would that be the case?

The G620 runs at a 400Mhz slower clockspeed and is based on the Sandy Bridge architecture.

Dunno... I have them both optimized the same for the SSD, and a fairly lightweight W7 install on both. If I benched them the G3220 would probably win... but in general use I don't see it. The G620 is on a B75 board, I don't know if that makes any difference.

 

[CHADBOGA]

So you are saying that a dual link DVI won't work on an Intel board even with a dedicated GPU? I thought you meant that the dual link DVI won't work with the integrated graphics. We used an ASROCK H81 board with a Nvidia 630 card outputting to a 4K TV at 3840x2160 over HDMI with no problems...

Yeah dual link DVI won't work with integrated graphics.

In my case, a discrete card was being used anyway(and worked perfectly), but it would have been nice to have the dual link DVI option as a backup.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

Yeah dual link DVI won't work with integrated graphics.

In my case, a discrete card was being used anyway(and worked perfectly), but it would have been nice to have the dual link DVI option as a backup.

When I looked at this, I think I saw ONE LGA-1155 board with dual-link DVI. Can't remember the model unfortunately.

I ended up getting a board with displayport, for "backup"...

 

[spdfreak]

When I looked at this, I think I saw ONE LGA-1155 board with dual-link DVI. Can't remember the model unfortunately.

I ended up getting a board with displayport, for "backup"...

Yeah, but a G3220 is a 1150 chip... same problem on the new MB's?

 

[9enesis]

Even now when I try to re-run drivers from Intel's site, it tells me that my system doesn't meet minimum requirements.

i had the same problem with Ivy....though, the solution was : go into BIOS and increase the IGP framebuffer to MAX.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

Yeah, but a G3220 is a 1150 chip... same problem on the new MB's?

Properly. I haven't done much digging on 1150 boards, so I really don't know.