Haswell-E DDR4 and 12-16 Cores [Fudzilla Rumor]

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Ajay

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i think Charlie got wrong on this one....
because richland never existed in any roadmap, and steamroller got delayed

I think Steamroller was probably done, as far as FEOL went. They just delayed it so that they could save on BEOL. Richland was an interesting addition - AMD wanted to play to there strengths better and someone must have done an analysis that showed it should pay off. This just confirms that GFL 28nm was maturing very slowly and AMD thought it needed something better to carry them through 2013. If Kaveri ships in 4Q13, then I doubt Richland will be in production long enough to pay for it's development. The unpredictability of GFL hurts AMD again.
 

MrDudeMan

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Considering that the EX platform for the serverside haswell doesn't even have 16 cores - i'd consider this completely unlikely.

A bunch of marlarkey actually.


Hopefully they'll raise from 6 - but to expect double is... yea i don't know want to pay 2000 dollars? or more?

How many do you think it has?
 

NTMBK

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I think Steamroller was probably done, as far as FEOL went. They just delayed it so that they could save on BEOL. Richland was an interesting addition - AMD wanted to play to there strengths better and someone must have done an analysis that showed it should pay off. This just confirms that GFL 28nm was maturing very slowly and AMD thought it needed something better to carry them through 2013. If Kaveri ships in 4Q13, then I doubt Richland will be in production long enough to pay for it's development. The unpredictability of GFL hurts AMD again.

To be fair, Richland is just a very minor tweak of Trinity- it's effectively the same chip.
 

Ajay

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To be fair, Richland is just a very minor tweak of Trinity- it's effectively the same chip.

I wish I knew how much a 'minor' tweak costs the company. In terms of design, the cost may be very low, but what about new masks (for the bottom silicon and, I imagine, metal layers)?
 

Phynaz

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I wish I knew how much a 'minor' tweak costs the company. In terms of design, the cost may be very low, but what about new masks (for the bottom silicon and, I imagine, metal layers)?

The last I saw mask sets for current generation nodes are about a half a million bucks a crack. This was from EETimes.