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Jeff7

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Originally posted by: her209
This.
Yes indeed.
These bodies of ours do have quite a few bugs in the system.


This sounds like it was a combination of sleep paralysis and a dream. Sometimes when napping, I'll apparently have dreams, but I guess it's done during light sleep or something - the dream seems to meld with what's around me, and it can be really goddamn unsettling to wake up in the same room I was "just in," only without whatever nasty, dangerous thing that was just present. And of course living alone, there's no one else to say, "Oh yeah, that was me making that noise," or to say, "You were just napping at your computer." So I just try to tell myself that there wasn't any blood-curdling scream coming from my empty kitchen, as I get myself up to bed for some real sleep.

It's amusing to think of how many superstitions likely started as a result of this kind of thing, when we had no idea just how screwy these primate brains of ours could be. The right chemicals, or lack of others, can suddenly cause things to appear to us, but they don't actually exist. If you can't trust your own senses, what do you do?

 

Lummex

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Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: Lummex
Originally posted by: QurazyQuisp
Your body produces natural tranquilizers (not sure if they are really tranquilizers, but they have the same effect) that while you're sleeping are meant to keep your body from moving, on occasion you will wake up while they are still present throughout your system and it'll feel like you can't move (because you can't) for a good few minutes. There is some condition (I can't remember the name) in which this frequents a person. It'd suck.

This. In fact, a couple weeks ago, I some how woke up while my muscles were still asleep, and my hand was closed in a fist. I couldn't open my fingers no matter how hard i tried. It was pretty annoying and quite scary as it was happening, but I figured it out after it passed and I was more awake.

Yep. Sleep paralysis is supposed to be a pretty frightening experience. Of the many strange, and sometimes terrifying dreams/nightmares I've had, many very lucid, and events of sleep walking or waking up from a dream immediately during some event and thinking its still happening (snake in the bed)... the one thing I've never had to this day is an episode of sleep paralysis. Thankfully, because that one would probably scare the shit out of me.
And even knowing what it really is, I'd too probably think of something supernatural, because I do have a tendency to want to believe in 'ghosts', but have yet to really figure out how they actually fit into the rest of my beliefs. Fact is, they don't really mix but its the only 'belief' that I'm too stubborn to let go of, probably because I still swear to this day I've seen/heard things that can only be attributed to ghosts.


Just read the wikipedia as well, and I remembered from my little experience that there was some hallucination/dream of a serpant-like demon who was talking to me in a strange voice and holding my hand shut. I didn't know before that this was all that common, but it sure is interesting. I hope it doesn't happen to me again though, it was uncomfortable as hell.
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: SSSnail
This happened to me a twice, and I can't explain it. I was visiting my auntie in Silverspring, MD and stayed over the weekend. I slept in her daughter's room that has been vacant for quite some times because she's away in college. I don't know it was due to my state of tiredness because I drove there, but the first night was a very strange.

I don't really believe that supernatural forces exist, but this event left be baffled until this day. I went to sleep as I normally would, a bit tired and restless due to the strange place. Some time during that night, I felt as something, or someone is holding me down and was smothering me. I couldn't move, I couldn't breath, I wanted to scream but I couldn't. All I did was struggle to break free and it seems helpless. In my groggy state, I thought I saw a shadowy figure at the end of the bed, watching. I still couldn't move or breath, and still struggling as hard as I can. It seemed so real. As I continued to struggle, I began to get angry and thought to myself "what the hell ever this is better leave me alone". Then all of a sudden, I could move and I sprang up from the bed, with nothing stirring and no one in sight.

I felt shivers and cold sweats on my back, and after gathering myself and try to figure out what had happened, I lay back down and drift off to sleep, all the while was thinking to myself "what the heck ever just did that better leave me alone, I don't want to be bothered". And I slept until morning without disturbance. The next three nights were uneventful, but the room felt warmer.

I can't explain it, nor have I experience that again anywhere else (the first time was when I was very little, but couldn't remember too much of it, other than someone woke me up). Have that ever happened to any of you? Or know someone that did? What could be the cause?

There is no shame in admitting that you did Auntie,,,,twice.
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: takeru
Originally posted by: SSSnail
This happened to me a twice, and I can't explain it. I was visiting my auntie in Silverspring, MD and stayed over the weekend. I slept in her daughter's room that has been vacant for quite some times because she's away in college. I don't know it was due to my state of tiredness because I drove there, but the first night was a very strange.

I don't really believe that supernatural forces exist, but this event left be baffled until this day. I went to sleep as I normally would, a bit tired and restless due to the strange place. Some time during that night, I felt as something, or someone is holding me down and was smothering me. I couldn't move, I couldn't breath, I wanted to scream but I couldn't. All I did was struggle to break free and it seems helpless. In my groggy state, I thought I saw a shadowy figure at the end of the bed, watching. I still couldn't move or breath, and still struggling as hard as I can. It seemed so real. As I continued to struggle, I began to get angry and thought to myself "what the hell ever this is better leave me alone". Then all of a sudden, I could move and I sprang up from the bed, with nothing stirring and no one in sight.

I felt shivers and cold sweats on my back, and after gathering myself and try to figure out what had happened, I lay back down and drift off to sleep, all the while was thinking to myself "what the heck ever just did that better leave me alone, I don't want to be bothered". And I slept until morning without disturbance. The next three nights were uneventful, but the room felt warmer.

I can't explain it, nor have I experience that again anywhere else (the first time was when I was very little, but couldn't remember too much of it, other than someone woke me up). Have that ever happened to any of you? Or know someone that did? What could be the cause?

i had something like that also before. i was lying in my bed on my stomach and was half alseep. suddenly i felt as if someone was standing on the edge of the bed. the feeling slowly moved upward, crushing my body down. i felt it coming too, so i managed to get my arms tucked in so i am holding myself up with my elbows. but beyond that i can't get up anymore since it was crushing me from above the blanket. you FEEL it moving over you on the other side of the blanket. so, at that point, i am holding my upper body up on my elbows, and i can't move anymore, and suddenly, i feel someone next to me, and a womans voice whispered into my ear... "why won't you play with me".... with that, i felt an icy chill shoot down my spine, and shook my head until i was free.

another time: i was laying down on my back in bed about to fall asleep. i felt something move up again over the covers. when it got around my waist i reached down, and grabbed someones wrist(?!) it felt very thin, dry, bony. and pulled it up. i immediately got up and am now kneeling on the bed. i can see what i am holding now. it was a girl wearing a white sleeping undergarment, with long jet black hair covering her face, and i was holding her wrist. apparently she didn't like it, and struggled with me. at that point i was scared silly, and again had a icy chill run down my spine. when it got to the point where i let go of her wrist, i found myself in the exact same position, kneeling on the bed. my heart was racing like crazy after that, and i didn't want to go back to sleep that night.


call it what you will, but its still pretty fucked up. the same girl kept coming back over several nights as well. i didn't tell my wife at all about it, since that stuff freaks her out. during this time she had a nightmare also though. she said she saw a girl wearing white with long black hair standing next to the bed watching me. i didn't tell her what i saw. i don't think she would enjoy it at all.

drugs are bad mmk
 

Brovane

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Originally posted by: Crono
Originally posted by: CrazyLazy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis

I used to have it happen to me fairly often but I guess I have outgrown it.

I've had sleep paralysis on 3 occasions, all last year and all when I was sleeping (napping, really) in an uncomfortable position (2x sitting on a wooden chair, hunched over table, 1 time on a bad sofa). Scared the crap out of me, because I thought I had a stroke or something and I tried to move but couldn't.

I had this same thing happen to me several times. However after I started using a CPAP machine for my sleep APENA I haven't had this issue again.
 

SSSnail

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Nov 29, 2006
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I knew there was some scientific explanation for that, I guess the next time this happens I'll just wait it out. Hopefully not though, it was scary.
 

rh71

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I'm going to read this in the morning instead of right now when I'm going to bed in the living room by myself.
 

Red Squirrel

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I've had sleep paralysis a few times but it's rare. I never really see any figures, but I'm usually caught in this intense "moment" kinda like in a movie when the music goes all scary and you know something bad is going to happen. Often I'm staring at an actual object in the room that may look like something scary like a face of some sort, but it's not clear. Then I can finally snap myself out of it and whatever I was looking at is still there, but it's clearer as to what it is. It's really weird when it happens.

I almost punched my cat square in the face once because of that lol. It happened to be my cat I was staring at once, and she darted right towards me but my vision was still fuzzy but as I went to punch I snapped out of it and just moved my hand around then by the time she got close enough I realized what had happened and ended up petting her and falling back asleep lol. It's really weird when stuff like that happens. I think in dreams when it can turn into a point where you become violent, the body will do something to stop it, and basically give you more control to stop. Though there are some people with sleep problems and they do become very violent. It's actually pretty scary for any one in the room at the time.
 

lokiju

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May 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: takeru
i had something like that also before. i was lying in my bed on my stomach and was half alseep. suddenly i felt as if someone was standing on the edge of the bed. the feeling slowly moved upward, crushing my body down. i felt it coming too, so i managed to get my arms tucked in so i am holding myself up with my elbows. but beyond that i can't get up anymore since it was crushing me from above the blanket. you FEEL it moving over you on the other side of the blanket. so, at that point, i am holding my upper body up on my elbows, and i can't move anymore, and suddenly, i feel someone next to me, and a womans voice whispered into my ear... "why won't you play with me".... with that, i felt an icy chill shoot down my spine, and shook my head until i was free.

another time: i was laying down on my back in bed about to fall asleep. i felt something move up again over the covers. when it got around my waist i reached down, and grabbed someones wrist(?!) it felt very thin, dry, bony. and pulled it up. i immediately got up and am now kneeling on the bed. i can see what i am holding now. it was a girl wearing a white sleeping undergarment, with long jet black hair covering her face, and i was holding her wrist. apparently she didn't like it, and struggled with me. at that point i was scared silly, and again had a icy chill run down my spine. when it got to the point where i let go of her wrist, i found myself in the exact same position, kneeling on the bed. my heart was racing like crazy after that, and i didn't want to go back to sleep that night.


call it what you will, but its still pretty fucked up. the same girl kept coming back over several nights as well. i didn't tell my wife at all about it, since that stuff freaks her out. during this time she had a nightmare also though. she said she saw a girl wearing white with long black hair standing next to the bed watching me. i didn't tell her what i saw. i don't think she would enjoy it at all.

:shocked:
 

Newfie

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Originally posted by: SSSnail
This happened to me a twice, and I can't explain it. I was visiting my auntie in Silverspring, MD and stayed over the weekend. I slept in her daughter's room that has been vacant for quite some times because she's away in college. I don't know it was due to my state of tiredness because I drove there, but the first night was a very strange.

I don't really believe that supernatural forces exist, but this event left be baffled until this day. I went to sleep as I normally would, a bit tired and restless due to the strange place. Some time during that night, I felt as something, or someone is holding me down and was smothering me. I couldn't move, I couldn't breath, I wanted to scream but I couldn't. All I did was struggle to break free and it seems helpless. In my groggy state, I thought I saw a shadowy figure at the end of the bed, watching. I still couldn't move or breath, and still struggling as hard as I can. It seemed so real. As I continued to struggle, I began to get angry and thought to myself "what the hell ever this is better leave me alone". Then all of a sudden, I could move and I sprang up from the bed, with nothing stirring and no one in sight.

I felt shivers and cold sweats on my back, and after gathering myself and try to figure out what had happened, I lay back down and drift off to sleep, all the while was thinking to myself "what the heck ever just did that better leave me alone, I don't want to be bothered". And I slept until morning without disturbance. The next three nights were uneventful, but the room felt warmer.

I can't explain it, nor have I experience that again anywhere else (the first time was when I was very little, but couldn't remember too much of it, other than someone woke me up). Have that ever happened to any of you? Or know someone that did? What could be the cause?

Here in Newfoundland we call it the "Old Hag". It's a natural occurance so don't fret about it.

I do believe most people experience it a few times throughout their life.
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: QurazyQuisp
Your body produces natural tranquilizers (not sure if they are really tranquilizers, but they have the same effect) that while you're sleeping are meant to keep your body from moving, on occasion you will wake up while they are still present throughout your system and it'll feel like you can't move (because you can't) for a good few minutes. There is some condition (I can't remember the name) in which this frequents a person. It'd suck.

this happens to me frequently, it sucks. I never thought it was something serious though...
 

Newfie

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Originally posted by: QurazyQuisp
Your body produces natural tranquilizers (not sure if they are really tranquilizers, but they have the same effect) that while you're sleeping are meant to keep your body from moving, on occasion you will wake up while they are still present throughout your system and it'll feel like you can't move (because you can't) for a good few minutes. There is some condition (I can't remember the name) in which this frequents a person. It'd suck.

I don't think it so much a "tranquilizer".

During some stages of your sleep the neural activity in your brain is a chaotic mess (namely stage 5/REM sleep). Your brainstem acts as a barrier between the chaos and the rest of the body; so while your mind seems to be "awake", your body is "asleep". The effect is known as "paradoxical sleep".

This is what I can remember from my intro Psych course and the module on sleep was damn interesting.
 

njdevilsfan87

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It's not a good few minutes... it's more like a minute at most, which can be dilated when a panic attack occurs during sleep paralysis. Honestly, if I could willingly have it once every morning, I'd take it. It's been a while for me. f I only had the willpower in the early morning hours...
 

octopus41092

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This has happened to me before. For me it happens when I'm falling asleep but still kind of awake and aware of my surroundings. It usually freaks me out and I snap out of it and fully wake up.
 

Kadarin

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What if you guys are wrong and it was actually a ghost, who actually wanted to fuck with him for some strange reason?
 

Clair de Lune

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Sleep paralysis. I used to have this quite often as a kid. I don't have it anymore.

It's quite common, your mind wakes up before your body does and you feel like suffocating, etc... this thing has been discussed to death many many times, where the hell have you been?

The ghostly/supernatural hallucination/experience is just your mind panicking.
 

TehMac

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Originally posted by: SSSnail
This happened to me a twice, and I can't explain it. I was visiting my auntie in Silverspring, MD and stayed over the weekend. I slept in her daughter's room that has been vacant for quite some times because she's away in college. I don't know it was due to my state of tiredness because I drove there, but the first night was a very strange.

I don't really believe that supernatural forces exist, but this event left be baffled until this day. I went to sleep as I normally would, a bit tired and restless due to the strange place. Some time during that night, I felt as something, or someone is holding me down and was smothering me. I couldn't move, I couldn't breath, I wanted to scream but I couldn't. All I did was struggle to break free and it seems helpless. In my groggy state, I thought I saw a shadowy figure at the end of the bed, watching. I still couldn't move or breath, and still struggling as hard as I can. It seemed so real. As I continued to struggle, I began to get angry and thought to myself "what the hell ever this is better leave me alone". Then all of a sudden, I could move and I sprang up from the bed, with nothing stirring and no one in sight.

I felt shivers and cold sweats on my back, and after gathering myself and try to figure out what had happened, I lay back down and drift off to sleep, all the while was thinking to myself "what the heck ever just did that better leave me alone, I don't want to be bothered". And I slept until morning without disturbance. The next three nights were uneventful, but the room felt warmer.

I can't explain it, nor have I experience that again anywhere else (the first time was when I was very little, but couldn't remember too much of it, other than someone woke me up). Have that ever happened to any of you? Or know someone that did? What could be the cause?


What you suffered from was Sleep Paralysis. It has happened to me quite a lot. In your case, your eyes opened before your body was done de-paralyzing you, essentially.

Essentially, the body paralyzes itself when you are asleep, to prevent you from flailing your legs while in a dream or w/e. Sleep walking is an associated sleeping disorder.

Hallucinogenic properties are unusual but not impossible, a result of certain amounts of dopamine stimulating certain parts of your brain. This is referred to as Hypnagogia wherein the brain is transferring between wakefulness and sleep, or vice versa.

While I have experienced a bunch of different forms of sleep paralysis, I have never really hallucinated yet.

Causes for this can be as simple as lying straight on your back, although in your case, I suspect it was because of your sleep deprivation--that is one of the major causes of this experience.

The panic you naturally underwent was you freaking out, whereas your brain was sort of like "calm down eh, I'm not done deparalyzing you."

The "not being able to breathe part" was merely you having a minor panic attack because of you're not being used to where you are.


Originally posted by: Lummex
This. In fact, a couple weeks ago, I some how woke up while my muscles were still asleep, and my hand was closed in a fist. I couldn't open my fingers no matter how hard i tried. It was pretty annoying and quite scary as it was happening, but I figured it out after it passed and I was more awake.

Technically, you weren't "more awake" you were awake. The form of sleep paralysis you most likely underwent was that info was being fed to you while your eyes were slightly open, your retinas saw light and transferred it to your brain while your brain fed you bits and pieces of what it estimates you're doing.

I have had sleep paralysis where it is totally dark, my eyes are open (or I think they are) but I am self aware. That is, another form of hynagogia, wherein my body was transferring from wakefulness to sleep. In this, I tried to move, but the sensation I got would be like trying to squeeze a balloon. When I flexed my hands (or felt like I did in my mind) I got that "balloon squeeze" sensation, wherein I thought I was flexing my hands, but I wasn't in reality.

Very trippy stuff. I have been experiencing sleep paralysis since around 8 years of age--probably even earlier than that.


Originally posted by: Kadarin
What if you guys are wrong and it was actually a ghost, who actually wanted to fuck with him for some strange reason?

Hey, I'm not ruling it out, however, ghosts could be merely a product of the human mind--they could be within us, so to speak. To us, reality is our waking mind, but for those unable to distinguish between the two, ghosts or whatever they hallucinate, could be very real.