Has this country changed?

JJChicken

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As you guys may remember, I was having difficulty in my job - http://forums.anandtech.com/me...290635&highlight_key=y

Well the shit's really hit the fan this time, I lost my job a week back :( DOn't want to go into too much detail about it, but my suspicisions in the earlier thread were pretty much confirmed. Heck, I ain't feeling too bad - who'd want to work in such a place eh? I still need the money though...I've got one weeks worth of rent paid and I have no savings so I'll be out on the street if I don't find anything soon.

I've been living off ramen noodles, they are so cheap :D Tonight I was going to go buy some, but had no cash. THere's about $100 or so back in my apartment but I had nothng on me. I'm standing on the corner of 5th, next to the supermarket and I see there's a restaurant across the street. Nice asian food, I used to go there once in a while but its pretty pricey. It would be chump change for all the ATOT millionaires though amirite :p

Now understand what state of mind I was in: I hadn't eaten all day, and I knew I wouldn't get any sleep on an empty stomach. A well-to-do group walk out of the restaurant across the street and they seemed a nice group. I'm thinking they are good samaritarians who would help a fellow American out. I ask them if they have a couple of dollars to spare so I can buy some dinner. It was nerveracking, I've never begged for money before.

To be honest, its a terrible feeling. As a man, I always wanted to provide for myself and my family, using my own bare hands - I'm sure you guys would feel the same way. By the way, my wife and kids are living with her sister at the moment - I refused to tag along because I didn't want to burden them. God bless them for helping us out, it hurt my ego as as the "man" of the house, but I wasn't going to put my own emotions in the way of my family.

Begging for money, it's hard to describe. You instantantneously give up all self-respect - and the worst part is the whole crowd around you sees what you are doing. Those judgmental looks are very hard to bear :(

I approach the group and ask one of them (who seemed slightly disengaged in their internal conversations and was consequently most approachable) if she had a couple of bucks to spare. She politely declined. By now, I had caught the attention of the group, in particular, the judgmental look of one scrawny young man. Tall bloke, European by complexion, much like his friends and relatives (I couldn't precisely tell if it were the former or the latter, some old and some young).

Having what little self-respect I had for myself, after losing my job and failing to provide for my family, torn away from me as I begged the polite lady for me, I so no harm in asking the other members of the group for some change. Hunger can indeed make us bold in our actions; I felt the very desperation FuzzyBabyBunny must have felt in posting his loveless adventures here on these forums; although my hunger was merely food-related.

One by one, I asked each member of the group if they had any change to spare me, and with each failed attempt, the scorn of that tall scrawnish lad, who stood directly opposite the lady I first asked, grew more apparent. I asked him if he had any change to spare.

He is irritated, "no one has anything for you, we already gave some to other guys asking for money". This is understandable, I was scared that I may ruin their evening - albeit momentarily before they presume their moods before my scene - but I was taken back by his tone, it was condescending. Coupled with the dirty looks he glanced at me, I became irritated as well, replying sarcastically, "Oh wow! There is 6 and you guys have no money." After a pause, I added, perhaps inflammatorily, "- and you eat at a place like this".

He starts abusing me. I'd leave out the details of our little scuffle, but I can tell you he left me feeling quite down about myself and mad at his selfishness. I'm sorry to have ruined 10 seconds of your life mister but there's no need to disrepect a fellow human being, let alone a fellow American. Now I'm here at the local library posting this, don't mind me - I thought I'd rant a little and get it off my chest. Have we really come to a point where we do not show compassion to our fellow brothers and sisters? I don't remember it like this, or maybe I was sheltered from the harsh realities of the jobless and homeless.

Question for you guys, how would you treat this situation (not as me, but as a member of the group)? I'd be interested to see the responses and to see if I expected too much from my fellow citizens.

Sincerely,
A. Bum
 

skull

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Jun 5, 2000
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Your not pretty enough. I've seen my drug addict friend who still looks like a girl next door make $30 in less than an hour at a gas station.
 

Kelemvor

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I bet McDonalds or Burger King is hiring...

There are always jobs to be had. You just have to set aside your thoughts that you are better than a certain job and realize that if it pays money, then it can help you.
And I never give money to anyone for that very reason.
 

Gibsons

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Aug 14, 2001
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What you got ain?t nothin new. This country is hard on people. You can?t stop what?s comin. It ain?t all waiting on you. That?s vanity
 

Insomniator

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This country is certainly changing, we are all going to be forced to 'help' our fellow man soon enough.

You should be well aware of that though Barrack.
 

Blieb

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HEY DIPSHIT ... CAN YOU PLEASE STOP WASTING OUR TIME?

Thanks,
-Everyone
 

nakedfrog

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If you just need food, it's a lot easier to get a handout from a fast food joint directly.
 
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SlitheryDee

I would not have given you money, but I certainly would not be rude about it either. If your funds are that short when you lose one job you should immediately go get another job, no matter what that job is. You can continue your hunt for a 3 digit earning CEO position when you get finished with your temporary job with the waste dept.

Edit: Oh and, yes the country has changed. The attitude of the people you approached used to be universal. Somehow we've gotten it all twisted around in our minds to think that the whole "let's 'help' other people by giving them everything they ask for" mentality is the "good ol'" way of thinking and the "looking out for number one" mentality is a new one which is a symptom of the degradation of America. It ain't so bud.
 

bobdole369

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The reaction you received is very common. People are secure in their persons and consider a beggar to be - well a beggar and beneath their class. Unfortunately there is an air about beggars that says they are lazy or stupid people. After all the group that you approached seemed to be able to handle finances, and obviously they have some money.

Well honestly though - did you expect something for nothing, when you've done nothing for them? This is America - I don't buy lunch for anybody unless I'm getting something out of it (relationship - my dick wet - weed - computer fixed, etc).

Not to mention - had they bought you food - then you would have just kept doing that - rather than fix the root cause - lack of a job.
 

JS80

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Oct 24, 2005
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Why don't you vote for someone who will force your neighbors to help you? Oh that's right you did...

CHANGE!! CHANGE!!
 

zoiks

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So are you an American in Australia. I distinctly remember you mentioning that.
 

vshah

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Sep 20, 2003
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dammit, my shens meter is broken. the other thread seemed legit enough but i'm not sure about this one.

best of luck if it is true though
 

yllus

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I'm both impressed and dismayed by the amount of work you put into these.
 

tk149

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Originally posted by: Barack Obama

I've been living off ramen noodles, they are so cheap :D Tonight I was going to go buy some, but had no cash. THere's about $100 or so back in my apartment but I had nothng on me. I'm standing on the corner of 5th, next to the supermarket and I see there's a restaurant across the street. Nice asian food, I used to go there once in a while but its pretty pricey. It would be chump change for all the ATOT millionaires though amirite :p

You're a lazy bum.

-5/10
Parody thread
 

FelixDeCat

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Aug 4, 2000
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Barack Obama - a black man avatar asking for change. :laugh:

In all seriousness I feel your pain. I have given to many a homeless person, but I too have been ticked off by the seemingly better off asking for something I dont have. If you cant deal with rejection and occasional scorn, begging is not for you. Since the economy has been so bad lately, they are a dime a dozen. I had to start getting pissed at some of them, but none ever lashed out at me. With my adrenaline going, that would have been a mistake on their part, but thats something you gain with experience as a begger.

I have never in my life begged, but Ive had hard times. Heck when I was 10 years old I had a begger take a penny off me. I still gave. In fact, things arent so hot right now but I refuse to beg. Id rather starve. :)

Next time consider picking up aluminum cans or wiping windows for tips on the street corner.

Good luck and God bless. :sun:
 

Gooberlx2

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May 4, 2001
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Assuming the OP is true, food stamps and food banks exist.

When my BIL was recently out serving parole, he couldn't work because of seizures. Honestly, the amount of $$$ he got monthly for food plus the loot from the local food bank allowed him to grocery shop and eat better than I did when I was single and working full-time for $11/hr.

Your pride may hurt, but there's no shame in taking what help is available.

OTOH, yeah I do get irritated by being harassed by the homeless for money when my wife and I are eating at a restaurant on an sidewalk patio. Over time, I've learned that giving them money is a complete waste of it. Offer food and they'll tell you to fuck off, because all they really want is money for booze or meth. And that's when they're not part of some sort of organized curbside begging ring that actually bring home decent takes.

Lastly, no one carries cash anymore. It's all plastic.