Has there ever been a successful libertarian country?

Thump553

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An offhand comment by Lemon Law put this idea in my head. Liberatarism has been big since at least the end of WWII and Ayn Rand's books, and scads of college bull sessions over the years. Can anyone point to a country run under libertarian principles in the modern era (post WWII)? States, cities and small political subdivisions don't count (they avoid too much of the true costs of nations).

I'd love to be enlightened with some real world proof of the actual viability of libertarianship.
 

drebo

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"Live and let live" is an ideal, sadly, reserved for Disney movies (which is kind of ironic, really).
 

Genx87

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Any third world country for that matter, but those get a despot sooner or later.

You two bafoons should read up on the differences between libertarian and anarchy. You might be surprised.
 

Steeplerot

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Of course there has been. Spanish Catalonia, and the Ukraine during the Russian Revolution.

Mahkno and Durruti are world renowned Libertarian heros!

As far as fantasyworld Ayn Rand right-wing libertarianism goes....Somalia?
 

ichy

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An offhand comment by Lemon Law put this idea in my head. Liberatarism has been big since at least the end of WWII and Ayn Rand's books, and scads of college bull sessions over the years. Can anyone point to a country run under libertarian principles in the modern era (post WWII)? States, cities and small political subdivisions don't count (they avoid too much of the true costs of nations).

I'd love to be enlightened with some real world proof of the actual viability of libertarianship.

A lot of libertarians love Ayn Rand, however she never identified herself as one and in general didn't like libertarians. She certainly wouldn't like a lot of Republicans who claim to have Libertarian leanings because she despised religion, and the GOP is big on courting conservative Christians.

Also, a lot of modern American "libertarians" like Ron Paul are actually more like state's rights conservatives.
 

Perknose

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You two bafoons should read up on the differences between libertarian and anarchy. You might be surprised.

^^^ Says the guy who still thinks bafoon is a word in the English language. :rolleyes:
 

Lemon law

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Not to bitch at our OP Thump553, but truth be told, I had a little qualifier of a SUCCESSFUL Libertarian government in my actual contention.

Kinda puts Somalia out. Unless anyone thinks their government is a model of success.
 

Steeplerot

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Regardless of what you guys are told on talk radio Libertarianism has been known as Anarchism for...oh a couple hundred years.

You are not rewriting history for those who know.
 

MotF Bane

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Regardless of what you guys are told on talk radio Libertarianism has been known as Anarchism for...oh a couple hundred years.

You are not rewriting history for those who know.

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Steeplerot

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Mexico during the Revolution of 1911 was also a somewhat successful Libertarian government.
 

Steeplerot

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Libertarian does not = Disgraced Republican throughout history, sorry wingnuts, if your party is a fail get your own. ;)
 

Perknose

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Baboon + buffoon = bafoon?

I don't know and I don't care WHAT is going on in the guy's mind, I'm just sick and tired of seeing grown men who were born and raised in this country too lazy to have mastered basic English and lacking the personal pride and discipline to do so.

It's equivalent to walking around with your fly open and not caring, or not learning how to avoid viruses on your computer and lacking the ambition to learn.

All the butch hot cars and metrosexual consumer products in the world don't make you less of a mouth breathing bumpkin if you can't even express yourself in proper English.
 

Perknose

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Oh god, you really got me there. :rolleyes:

Just zip up your fly and wipe the drool off of your chin before you go out in public, it's really for the sake of your own credibility in the adult world.

How do you get to your age and still not know your own language?
 

Genx87

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I don't know and I don't care WHAT is going on in the guy's mind, I'm just sick and tired of seeing grown men who were born and raised in this country too lazy to have mastered basic English and lacking the personal pride and discipline to do so.

It's equivalent to walking around with your fly open and not caring, or not learning how to avoid viruses on your computer and lacking the ambition to learn.

All the butch hot cars and metrosexual consumer products in the world don't make you less of a mouth breathing bumpkin if you can't even express yourself in proper English.

Life must be rough on the internet for you. I suggest realizing people when typing quickly on a forum msgboard dont put their all into proper english. Like they would if writing an article or paper. So excuse me.........................................................................
 

Lemon law

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Sorry, I never believed in the spelling police, and to make a typo error is human.

I think we can all figure out what the poster meant to say, and dwelling on a trivial side issue gets long past beating a dead horse.
 

Perknose

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Life must be rough on the internet for you. I suggest realizing people when typing quickly on a forum msgboard dont put their all into proper english. Like they would if writing an article or paper. So excuse me.........................................................................

Please don't try to pretend your continued use of the non-word "bafoon" for "buffoon" was a simple typing mistake, it wasn't.

Back on topic: No, OP, there has never been a successful libertarian government as of yet.
 

Steeplerot

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Well, since you free market guys want so bad to be the "Libertarians" show me a government of your "Free-Market Libertarianism". Never happened! Never even TRIED!
How is it that the term Libertarianism got hijacked by Anarcho-Capitalists when Anarcho-Capitalists are either lazy sociopath college kids or disgraced Republicans?

I provided examples of 3 different Libertarian systems that succeeded, had flags and people living under it.

I think the term here is put up or shut up right-wing libertarians, you have no history, and your theory/ideology is disassembled neatly by any high school student with a functioning brain.
 
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