Has there been any word on G90?

[Chaotic42]

I've got a 7800GTX, and I'd really like to skip the 8000 series, but my 7800GTX is starting to show its age in things like Supreme Commander. I fear that Silent Hunter 4 might kill it.

Is there any word on the next product from Nvidia?

 

[Cookie Monster]

Next product would defitnately be something along the lines of the refresh of the 8800 series. G90 might be a 2008 product.

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
Next product would defitnately be something along the lines of the refresh of the 8800 series. G90 might be a 2008 product.

Hmmm....

That sucks. I thought they came out with a new core every fall?

 

[Gstanfor]

It will be much the same as what went before, have an improved AF algorithm and slightly optimized rops.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
Next product would defitnately be something along the lines of the refresh of the 8800 series. G90 might be a 2008 product.

Hmmm....

That sucks. I thought they came out with a new core every fall?

Why not just jump to G80? it provides everything you could dream of. (unless you are scared of the driver situation that is).

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster

Why not just jump to G80? it provides everything you could dream of. (unless you are scared of the driver situation that is).

I might. I have a buddy who has a computer pretty much identical to mine and he's getting an 8800. I'll see how he likes it first.

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster

Why not just jump to G80? it provides everything you could dream of. (unless you are scared of the driver situation that is).

I might. I have a buddy who has a computer pretty much identical to mine and he's getting an 8800. I'll see how he likes it first.

Okay, he got his 8800GTS in and he says that Supreme Commander runs like butter. I'm skeptical, but on my 7800GTX, it's definitely choppy with a lot of units on the screen.

I just can't get over how expensive the 8800s still are. When are the 8900s coming out?

Edit: Well, the beta map editor uses 2GB of memory, so I might have to upgrade that, too. This game is going to break me!

 

[Extelleron]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster

Why not just jump to G80? it provides everything you could dream of. (unless you are scared of the driver situation that is).

I might. I have a buddy who has a computer pretty much identical to mine and he's getting an 8800. I'll see how he likes it first.

Okay, he got his 8800GTS in and he says that Supreme Commander runs like butter. I'm skeptical, but on my 7800GTX, it's definitely choppy with a lot of units on the screen.

I just can't get over how expensive the 8800s still are. When are the 8900s coming out?

Edit: Well, the beta map editor uses 2GB of memory, so I might have to upgrade that, too. This game is going to break me!

An 8800GTS is $259/$359 (320MB/640MB) and considering its performance, that's a great price. If you can get an eVGA one, you'll likely be able to upgrade to an 8900 when it launches with the Step-up program.

 

[firewolfsm]

I'll probably be based off the G80 in the same way G70 was based off the 6 series.

Early '08.

 

[happy medium]

Some G90 info. Seems there skipping g81?

http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4690


http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4682


G90 specs (to be named 9800GTX)

* 55nm Architecture
* Native Support for Dual-core Alternative Cards (Dual-Core G90)
* Over 1 Ghz Core Speed
* 64 Unified Shader Units
* GDDR4 XDR2 @ over 2Ghz
* Quad SLI Support
* May have a dedicated PPU on Board
* Predicted 3DMark06 Score for a Single Core G90 (based on a 4800+ X2): 14000 - 16000

Release Date: Expected Mid 2007

 

[Nightmare225]

Strange, Nvidia isn't planning a refresh. Either they are so confident that R600 won't be able to compete, or they got something even better up their sleeve...

Originally posted by: happy medium

G90 specs (to be named 9800GTX)

* 55nm Architecture
* Native Support for Dual-core Alternative Cards (Dual-Core G90)
* Over 1 Ghz Core Speed
* 64 Unified Shader Units
* GDDR4 XDR2 @ over 2Ghz
* Quad SLI Support
* May have a dedicated PPU on Board
* Predicted 3DMark06 Score for a Single Core G90 (based on a 4800+ X2): 14000 - 16000

Release Date: Expected Mid 2007

Where the hell did you get those specs? I'd have to call shens because there's no such thing as 55nm architecture.

 

[happy medium]

Originally posted by: Nightmare225
Strange, Nvidia isn't planning a refresh. Either they are so confident that R600 won't be able to compete, or they got something even better up their sleeve...

Originally posted by: happy medium

G90 specs (to be named 9800GTX)

* 55nm Architecture
* Native Support for Dual-core Alternative Cards (Dual-Core G90)
* Over 1 Ghz Core Speed
* 64 Unified Shader Units
* GDDR4 XDR2 @ over 2Ghz
* Quad SLI Support
* May have a dedicated PPU on Board
* Predicted 3DMark06 Score for a Single Core G90 (based on a 4800+ X2): 14000 - 16000

Release Date: Expected Mid 2007

Where the hell did you get those specs? I'd have to call shens because there's no such thing as 55nm architecture.

OCUK forums but I don't believe it either. It does seem that nvidia does have something up there sleeve though. I don't think we are gonna see a refresh this time. I think we are gonna see a better card to match/ or better the r600 cards imho. I don't see nvidia (or intel) giving up there crowns for a while.

 

[firewolfsm]

There should be 55nm, just like there was 110mn and 80nm.

 

[schtuga]

Originally posted by: Nightmare225
Strange, Nvidia isn't planning a refresh. Either they are so confident that R600 won't be able to compete, or they got something even better up their sleeve...

Originally posted by: happy medium

G90 specs (to be named 9800GTX)

* 55nm Architecture
* Native Support for Dual-core Alternative Cards (Dual-Core G90)
* Over 1 Ghz Core Speed
* 64 Unified Shader Units
* GDDR4 XDR2 @ over 2Ghz
* Quad SLI Support
* May have a dedicated PPU on Board
* Predicted 3DMark06 Score for a Single Core G90 (based on a 4800+ X2): 14000 - 16000

Release Date: Expected Mid 2007

Where the hell did you get those specs? I'd have to call shens because there's no such thing as 55nm architecture.

Actually,it has already been stated,(not confirmed) that ati will also go this route by the end of the year

 

[Nightmare225]

Originally posted by: firewolfsm
There should be 55nm, just like there was 110mn and 80nm.

Wasn't the next step 65nm? Or am I getting this mixed up with processors or something...
Also, why would there be less shaders than in the 8800 series? Unless they're more advanced or something...

 

[yh125d]

Originally posted by: Nightmare225

Originally posted by: firewolfsm
There should be 55nm, just like there was 110mn and 80nm.

Wasn't the next step 65nm? Or am I getting this mixed up with processors or something...
Also, why would there be less shaders than in the 8800 series? Unless they're more advanced or something...

I dunno about how GPU's are sized, but processors have gone 130, 90, 65, and will be goin to 45 late this year with penryn

 

[aka1nas]

GPUs are often fabbed on half-node processes such as 110nm,80nm etc.

 

[40sTheme]

Originally posted by: happy medium
Some G90 info. Seems there skipping g81?

http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4690


http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4682


G90 specs (to be named 9800GTX)

* 55nm Architecture
* Native Support for Dual-core Alternative Cards (Dual-Core G90)
* Over 1 Ghz Core Speed
* 64 Unified Shader Units
* GDDR4 XDR2 @ over 2Ghz
* Quad SLI Support
* May have a dedicated PPU on Board
* Predicted 3DMark06 Score for a Single Core G90 (based on a 4800+ X2): 14000 - 16000

Release Date: Expected Mid 2007

I definitely WOULD NOT believe that if I were you. Well, maybe everything except only having 64 unified shaders. That would be a foolish move on nVidia's part.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Nightmare225
Strange, Nvidia isn't planning a refresh. Either they are so confident that R600 won't be able to compete, or they got something even better up their sleeve...

Originally posted by: happy medium

G90 specs (to be named 9800GTX)

* 55nm Architecture
* Native Support for Dual-core Alternative Cards (Dual-Core G90)
* Over 1 Ghz Core Speed
* 64 Unified Shader Units
* GDDR4 XDR2 @ over 2Ghz
* Quad SLI Support
* May have a dedicated PPU on Board
* Predicted 3DMark06 Score for a Single Core G90 (based on a 4800+ X2): 14000 - 16000

Release Date: Expected Mid 2007

Where the hell did you get those specs? I'd have to call shens because there's no such thing as 55nm architecture.

Those are wild stab in the dark guesses from someone who obviously knows very little about graphics cards in general...

64 shader units is less than G80, no one knows about physics, 55nm is obviously just made up. TSMC is not even sampling at 55nm yet.

 

[Munky]

Originally posted by: happy medium

G90 specs (to be named 9800GTX)

* 55nm Architecture
* Native Support for Dual-core Alternative Cards (Dual-Core G90)
* Over 1 Ghz Core Speed
* 64 Unified Shader Units
* GDDR4 XDR2 @ over 2Ghz
* Quad SLI Support
* May have a dedicated PPU on Board
* Predicted 3DMark06 Score for a Single Core G90 (based on a 4800+ X2): 14000 - 16000

Release Date: Expected Mid 2007

Those numbers look like something made up by a 12 year old kid.

*edit: since we're speculating, how's this?

65mn process
192 scalar unified shaders
700+ mhz core speed
1.4+ ghz shader clocks
Predicted 3dmock06 score 15000+ based on an unknown cpu from the future
Taped out and waiting in the wings for Ati's r600 (as usual... lol)

 

[TanisHalfElven]

*edit: since we're speculating, how's this?

10pm process
200000 scalar unified shaders
700000+ GHz core speed
1.4x10^50 + ghz shader clocks
Predicted 3dmock06 score 15000x10^5600+ based on an unknown cpu from the future
Taped out and waiting in the wings for Ati's r600 (as usual... lol)

 

[Nightmare225]

Originally posted by: munky

Originally posted by: happy medium

G90 specs (to be named 9800GTX)

* 55nm Architecture
* Native Support for Dual-core Alternative Cards (Dual-Core G90)
* Over 1 Ghz Core Speed
* 64 Unified Shader Units
* GDDR4 XDR2 @ over 2Ghz
* Quad SLI Support
* May have a dedicated PPU on Board
* Predicted 3DMark06 Score for a Single Core G90 (based on a 4800+ X2): 14000 - 16000

Release Date: Expected Mid 2007

Those numbers look like something made up by a 12 year old kid.

*edit: since we're speculating, how's this?

65mn process
192 scalar unified shaders
700+ mhz core speed
1.4+ ghz shader clocks
Predicted 3dmock06 score 15000+ based on an unknown cpu from the future
Taped out and waiting in the wings for Ati's r600 (as usual... lol)

That actually made more sense than his. :Q

 

[happy medium]

Just so you know i didn't write that. It was a quote.

 

[Munky]

Originally posted by: tanishalfelven
*edit: since we're speculating, how's this?

10pm process
200000 scalar unified shaders
700000+ GHz core speed
1.4x10^50 + ghz shader clocks
Predicted 3dmock06 score 15000x10^5600+ based on an unknown cpu from the future
Taped out and waiting in the wings for Ati's r600 (as usual... lol)

Shhhhhh! Don't tell the inquirer!

 

[Schmeh]

Originally posted by: happy medium

G90 specs (to be named 9800GTX)

* 55nm Architecture
* Native Support for Dual-core Alternative Cards (Dual-Core G90)
* Over 1 Ghz Core Speed
* 64 Unified Shader Units
* GDDR4 XDR2 @ over 2Ghz
* Quad SLI Support
* May have a dedicated PPU on Board
* Predicted 3DMark06 Score for a Single Core G90 (based on a 4800+ X2): 14000 - 16000

Release Date: Expected Mid 2007

I need to get me some of that GDDR4 XDR2 to replace my SRAM EDO DDR RDRAM in my pc.