Has the Republican Party ever been pro-labor?

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Anarchist420

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I was thinking no, but I was wondering what you thought. I know that Coolidge and Harding were not pro-labor. Northern Jacksonian Al Smith was pro-labor as was Progressive Republican Hoover but the Republicans before them including those of the gilded age and even the first Republican President were not pro-labor. Lincoln, despite his rhetoric, could not be considered pro-labor because he conscripted people to fight or die.

The Jacksonians were always pro-labor, especially the Northern ones which is why they opposed the high tariffs... the high tariffs allow the merchants and the CEOs to take advantage of the laborer. Many Southern Secessionists and Nullifiers (e.g., the great intellectual and South Carolina Citizen Statesman John C Calhoun as well as many leaders of the CSA) plus Founders Jefferson and Adams were the first to point to that out then the Northern Jacksonians came along and realized that Jefferson and Adams were right.

Bush was the same as the Radical Sherman Republicans because he had foreign countries raped for their resources... imperialism was one of the original intent of the 14th Amendment and Sherman said he wanted a consolidated U.S. to be a world empire. In other words, the 14th Amendment wanted to make everyone a subject and so to the jurisdiction of the United States... the authors of the 14th Amendment did not value citizenship they hated liberty and loved inequality. Also, the 14th Amendment was just like Hitler's so-called 14 words of truth in that they were both created by social nationalists who favored a strong executive power. Social democracy, OTOH, would oppose the 14th Amendment because social democracy is not Conservative; social democracy likes to preserve the laws of Nature and of Nature's God in that it supports constant change. However, the Republican Party has always been socially nationalist so they have always been for legislating uniformity, morality, inequality, and Order.

Didn't I just kind of prove that the Democrats are still Jacksonian pro-labor men and that the Republicans are still Lincolnian pro-business men?

Anyway, my dream is that one day we will not have to pick between communism and fascism.
 

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as in she is in labor....
don`t belabor the point...
this is a laborious thread.....
soon it will be labor day.....
let a man labor for his food....
 

DCal430

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Lincoln wasn't pro business look at the quote in my text from lincoln, he valued labor.
 

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I was thinking no, but I was wondering what you thought. I know that Coolidge and Harding were not pro-labor. Northern Jacksonian Al Smith was pro-labor as was Progressive Republican Hoover but the Republicans before them including those of the gilded age and even the first Republican President were not pro-labor. Lincoln, despite his rhetoric, could not be considered pro-labor because he conscripted people to fight or die.

The Jacksonians were always pro-labor, especially the Northern ones which is why they opposed the high tariffs... the high tariffs allow the merchants and the CEOs to take advantage of the laborer......

...... the authors of the 14th Amendment did not value citizenship they hated liberty and loved inequality..........

Your post shows how the libertarians in the US have managed to fuse their ideology with various conservative groups. Conscription in the civil war = slavery. High tariffs = take advantage of labourers, 14th Amendment = imperialism/inequality/oppression.

High tariffs is what allowed America to become an economic superpower by WWII although it contradicts free market theory. The 14th amendment extended citizenship to former slaves but now people are afraid of the exploding population growth of children born on US soil by illegal/legal immigrants.
 

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Taking a business law class and my professor talked a lot about pro-labor republicans. Examples include Teddy Roosevelt and Laguardia.

Of course this changed in the last 50 or so years when Republicans became pro-corporate/anti-labor.
 

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Some really good Repub businessmen are pro-labor in that they care for their employees and treat them with respect, decency and pay them a wage commensurate with their contributions to the well-being of the company they work for. In turn, the employees are loyal, hard working and would do most anything for their employer.

A lot of other Repub businessmen, well, they're just pro-slave labor where they threaten and intimidate their employees into doing their jobs while paying them just enough to keep them employed, hence the employees contribute just enough work to keep their jobs.
 

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Lincoln wasn't pro business look at the quote in my text from lincoln, he valued labor.
His campaign was funded by the blue blooded New England plutocrats. He defended the big railroad corporations. The banksters benefitted from his greenback system. Lincoln was a Hamiltonian and Hamilton was a pro-business U.S. govt official if ever there was one.

Your post shows how the libertarians in the US have managed to fuse their ideology with various conservative groups.
Lincoln was a Conservative since he was a super nationalist and also because he ruled like a fucking monarch. Jefferson was a true liberal. Obama's a Conservative since he's a nationalist. The u.s. hasn't had a Liberal President since John Tyler. Every President after Tyler and most before were nationalists.

Conscription in the civil war = slavery.
Conscription is much, much worse than chattel slavery because Conscription must be legislated.

High tariffs is what allowed America to become an economic superpower by WWII although it contradicts free market theory.
A british man was who invented the light bulb. Henry Ford rejected the Smoot Hawley tariff and he didn't even completely invent the automobile.

Being part a superpower isn't a good because then the subjects of the super power must pay their superpowered govt to rule the world. Superpowers don't last forever anyway, they collapse under their own weight.
The 14th amendment extended citizenship to former slaves but now people are afraid of the exploding population growth of children born on US soil by illegal/legal immigrants.
The 14th Amendment made everyone subject to the U.S. govt. One goal of the fascist 14th was to make soldiers out of the former slaves and to make any future immigrants soldiers as well.

Taking a business law class and my professor talked a lot about pro-labor republicans. Examples include Teddy Roosevelt and Laguardia.
I'd hardly consider Roosevelt pro-labor since he wanted to conquer Hawaii for their resources that would be used by elitist businessmen like Sanford B Dole. LaGuardia was only a Republican because he didn't like the corruption and the romanism of the NY Democratic Party.
 
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DCal430

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You seem to suffer from revisionist history or mental illness, likely both.
 

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Lincoln was a Conservative since he was a super nationalist and also because he ruled like a fucking monarch. Jefferson was a true liberal. Obama's a Conservative since he's a nationalist. The u.s. hasn't had a Liberal President since John Tyler. Every President after Tyler and most before were nationalists.

Conscription is much, much worse than chattel slavery because Conscription must be legislated.

A british man was who invented the light bulb. Henry Ford rejected the Smoot Hawley tariff and he didn't even completely invent the automobile.

Being part a superpower isn't a good because then the subjects of the super power must pay their superpowered govt to rule the world. Superpowers don't last forever anyway, they collapse under their own weight.

The 14th Amendment made everyone subject to the U.S. govt. One goal of the fascist 14th was to make soldiers out of the former slaves and to make any future immigrants soldiers as well.
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What I mean by 'various conservatives' is the sort of Fox News sensational 'conservatism' so I'm not arguing with you there.

Repealing part of the 14th would solve the problem of illegal immigrant children while conveniently forgetting the part about free movement of labour in the free market canon. So this is an accommodation on the part of libertarians by relying on a far out undocumented intention.

American followed the British and Europeans by enacting tariffs to protect their struggling infant industries to compete, which again was the route taken by the economic tigers in the east. That is just a fact which libertarians continually struggle with themselves. Google for Smoot Hawley myth.
 
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Taking a business law class and my professor talked a lot about pro-labor republicans. Examples include Teddy Roosevelt and Laguardia.

Of course this changed in the last 50 or so years when Republicans became pro-corporate/anti-labor.

Just like the Democrats
 
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