Has the need for overclocking lessened?

Pennstate

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I have not been overclocking for a year. I was thinking what the reasons were. I think it is because the gain in practical performance has been lessened for the following reasons:

#1 Overclocking, even up to 50% increase in speed, doesn't translate into 50% noticeable performance increase. The performance of overclocking a cel 366 to 550 is much more noticeable practically (not in benchmark tests) than a 1ghz to 1.5Ghz.

#2 Noise. Are you willing to live with that much noise eventhough a quiet 1Ghz machine is adequate?

#3 Stability. Again, do you care if a machine runs at 1ghz or 1.33ghz if there's a chance of instability? What's shocking is that I actually considered using cheap intel boards (from compgeeks and ebay) to build systems for my friends because of its stability, the lack of maintainence needs, and the lack of things my friends/relatives can screw up in the bios.

#4 Faster ramping up of speeds coupled with a comprable rate of price decrease renders any $$ "saved" from overclocking minimal. When you overclock a celeron 366 to 550, you saved about 150-200 bucks; and this savings can last you for up to a year. Now, the "savings" from OCing, is much smaller and lasts much shorter.

Overall, overclocking is approaching a point of diminishing returns. Can you distinguish between two systems (same ram, motherboard, harddrive, and video card) with one running at 1.33ghz and one running at 1.7Ghz; without the use of benchmarks??
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Jzero

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Was there ever a need? Overclocking a slow old processor to get more life out of it was a good idea....overclocking your SOTA P4 is pretty pointless....at least for the next year or so.
I thought it was kinda like perf mods on your car....you don't really NEED them, but it's fun to see how fast you can make it go.
 

Pennstate

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Think there was definately a "need" for the 366-550 becuase you will notice the difference. At that time the hardware was lagging behind the software. Now it's the other way around.
 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: Pennstate
Think there was definately a "need" for the 366-550 becuase you will notice the difference. At that time the hardware was lagging behind the software. Now it's the other way around.
Never had a problem with my 333MHz being too slow. I would have noticed the difference, but it was never too slow to run anything I threw at it. The only reason I upgraded was because I learned that I could upgrade to a dual-celeron system for like $150.
So I got a dual celeron 400MHz system. That was 3 years ago, and I'm still using that as my main rig. Bear in mind that most programs can't even support SMP, so I realize very little performance gain in most unprocessor apps....yet 400MHz has been more than adequate for so long....


 

JSang

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i bought my 1.6a hoping that it would go beyond its factory specs but realizing that any extra performance would just be an added bonus. did the fact that the northwoods overclock so well effect my decision? of course it did...even if its not a noticeable advantage..the prospect of getting something for nothing appeals to most people. and to some, overclocking is a fun hobby...just ask thugsrook :D
 

ElFenix

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1.6A --> 2.1 is a very noticeable overclock. not only do you get more MHz you get a 33% faster FSB. which is always a good thing.
 

hans007

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Originally posted by: Pennstate
I have not been overclocking for a year. I was thinking what the reasons were. I think it is because the gain in practical performance has been lessened for the following reasons:

#1 Overclocking, even up to 50% increase in speed, doesn't translate into 50% noticeable performance increase. The performance of overclocking a cel 366 to 550 is much more noticeable practically (not in benchmark tests) than a 1ghz to 1.5Ghz.

well most apps will run fine on any system over 500mhz with 160mb+ ram. i have a laptop like that and for the everyday guys system its fast enough. With my case off (its a super small microatx case) my 1.6A runs 2.13 fine, but i cant even tell the difference. if a killer app comes out that needs the speed maybe i'll buya new case. killer apps are what have stopped the rampant upgrading that happened in the mid 90s (killer app being the internet back then).

#2 Noise. Are you willing to live with that much noise eventhough a quiet 1Ghz machine is adequate?
depends what chip. with an athlon even a stock fan is noisy. with intel's the retail fan is 2500rpm and cheap and inexpensive. adn mine works fine at 2.1333 with that fan. i hate noise as much as the next person, but with the retail i'd overclock. nothing over 34 or so dba for me though, i'd go insane.


#3 Stability. Again, do you care if a machine runs at 1ghz or 1.33ghz if there's a chance of instability? What's shocking is that I actually considered using cheap intel boards (from compgeeks and ebay) to build systems for my friends because of its stability, the lack of maintainence needs, and the lack of things my friends/relatives can screw up in the bios.
prime95, is a good test. any good brand board is stable. my ECS was super cheap and somewhat overclockable, and its rock solid, hasnt locked up on a system that is up nearly 20 hours a day. no lock ups in 4 weeks even in the ultra cramped hot case its in.


#4 Faster ramping up of speeds coupled with a comprable rate of price decrease renders any $$ "saved" from overclocking minimal. When you overclock a celeron 366 to 550, you saved about 150-200 bucks; and this savings can last you for up to a year. Now, the "savings" from OCing, is much smaller and lasts much shorter.

Overall, overclocking is approaching a point of diminishing returns. Can you distinguish between two systems (same ram, motherboard, harddrive, and video card) with one running at 1.33ghz and one running at 1.7Ghz; without the use of benchmarks??
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savings is still savings. besides CPUs should last a while either way now, plus CPUs are cheap. I admit when i first start o/c ing like 4 years ago, iwas a broke high school student. Now i have money and investments and i can afford a new CPU, but you dont get money by wasting it, so might as well overclock if it can save you some cash when you actually need that speed and can feel it.
 

zimmie6576

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Need? No. Desire? Yes.

From what I've found, people will overclock even if they have the current top of the line processor. It doesn't cause noticeable difference in games, but it will get you more 3DMarks, which I feel are only good for bragging rights.
 

joe678

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Originally posted by: Instagib
People are still overclocking. Hell I overclocked my microwave today.

the normal setting on my microwave is 5 but i run it at 10 so i get my food hot twice as fast!