Has Star Trek Online improved at all...?

[callaway86]

LOTRO is not instanced but has instanced areas (dungeons and quests) such as WoW. The main questing regions are not instanced. I've played the game as have others here and you're being obstinate.

 

[JoshGuru7]

You are wrong. It clearly states here that LoTRO uses instanced worlds for pretty much all areas other than the main towns. It does say that LoTRO has some public dungeons that more people can enter, but they are still separate from the regular world... If you don't know what you're talking about, at least do some research.

Anybody who plays LOTRO will find this sentence funny, since it's clear you don't know what you are talking about. The fact that you need to do research to argue your point should tell you something right off the bat.

DDO is an instanced game like GW.

LOTRO is a true MMO, similar in style to AoC, WoW, WAR, etc. If you are questing in Region A, you are doing so in the same zone as every single other person questing in Region A. The game is nearly entirely made up of huge public PvE questing regions: Ered Luin, The Shire, Bree-Lands, Lonelands, North Downs, Trollshaws, Angmar, Misty Mountains, Eregion, Evendim, Forochel, Moria, Lothlorien, Mirkwood, Enedwaith.

Yes there are some instanced group quests and instanced raids (which your link refers to), but they are implemented in the same way as in every other MMO (ala WoW). Even Aion with their public quest system (raid boss not in a seperate instance) was significantly more instanced than LOTRO because each zone had 10 instances you could switch between for population control.

 

[Nyati13]

You are wrong. It clearly states here that LoTRO uses instanced worlds for pretty much all areas other than the main towns. It does say that LoTRO has some public dungeons that more people can enter, but they are still separate from the regular world.

What are you talking about, buddy? Maybe instead of just trying to bash me, you could have an intelligent conversation? Or would that be too much for you? Do you know anything about GW, LoTRO, and DDO? I've played all of these games and they all work very similarly. They have a main "town" area that holds X amount of people in each server. The majority of the quests, dungeons, etc are instanced, meaning that they are separate from the rest of the world. When you go into these instanced areas, you can only enter them with people who are members of your party. What in my other post was "completely wrong?"


I swear, people post shit like this just to start arguments. If you don't know what you're talking about, at least do some research. If you can't even do that, then do us all a favor and don't post at all.

You've been educated on your ignorance, and then you put up the claim about "if you don't know what you're talking about"... you are a complete ass.

LOTRO is not an instanced world. The raid dungeons and the skirmish system, plus a few "solo player only" quests are instanced, the entire map, and 99% of all quests are open world. How do I know this? I know it because I've played LOTRO for over a year now.
Compare that to you who links a stupid webpage, then claims that you know better than people that play the game, better than the people that created the game, and better than all the people who reveiwed the game... and then you posture about "if you don't know what you're talking about" nonsense.

You do not know what you are talking about, You are completely wrong, and you are an idiot.

 

[crownjules]

He might be getting "instanced" confused with "layered". All the public areas have layers which each have their own set of monster spawns. This is so that unique and quest related mobs aren't so easily camped. You can still talk and see public chat from people on the other layers, but you won't see their character even if they're standing in the same spot.

 

[sactoking]

He might be getting "instanced" confused with "layered". All the public areas have layers which each have their own set of monster spawns. This is so that unique and quest related mobs aren't so easily camped. You can still talk and see public chat from people on the other layers, but you won't see their character even if they're standing in the same spot.

And even this is relatively new, it was just introduced when LOTRO went F2P. In the prior 3 years there wasn't even layering so literally 99% of the world was open world in one giant seamless fashion.

 

[Biren]

You are wrong. It clearly states here that LoTRO uses instanced worlds for pretty much all areas other than the main towns. It does say that LoTRO has some public dungeons that more people can enter, but they are still separate from the regular world.

What are you talking about, buddy? Maybe instead of just trying to bash me, you could have an intelligent conversation? Or would that be too much for you? Do you know anything about GW, LoTRO, and DDO? I've played all of these games and they all work very similarly. They have a main "town" area that holds X amount of people in each server. The majority of the quests, dungeons, etc are instanced, meaning that they are separate from the rest of the world. When you go into these instanced areas, you can only enter them with people who are members of your party. What in my other post was "completely wrong?"

Apparently you haven't played LOTRO much (if at all) as most of the game is NOT instance based. There are some "Kill this boss" quests that use instances, there are skirmishes that are instance based, dungeons, raids, etc. But MOST of the entire game is open world.. there are TONS of regions and it probably takes a good half hour or more to run from Ered Luin (elven/dwarf starting area) to Rivendell (this takes you across the shire, bree, lone lands, & trollshaws, at the end of which is where rivendell is). Around where rivendell is, you can head southeast to Eregion which is where the entrance to moria starts, if you want to run through moria it's probably another 20 minutes or so manually to get to the other side and out to Falathorn. There are quite a few other areas I haven't even touched on, and each of these regions is pretty large.

The open world is huge, and it is not, by any means, instance based. Where, exactly, in your link.. does it say "LoTRO uses instanced worlds for pretty much all areas other than the main towns"?

Anyway, I finish my retort with:

If you don't know what you're talking about, at least do some research. If you can't even do that, then do us all a favor and don't post at all.

For the record, areas only have "layers" if they get to be heavily crowded. The only areas I've really noticed get layered often are Bree which is the main human town.

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Back on topic; I'm updating ST:O right now (wow fail, just spent like 5 hours downloading the client from steam and now I have to do a 1.6GB update? The least steam could do is provide an up-to-date client...) to play the 7-day trial.

I do hope it'll go F2P as that'll give me more of a reason to play it beyond a trial. Unfortunately though, even if it does.. it probably won't be F2P for at least 6 months.

 

[Nintendesert]

Not at all. There are several high quality titles in the F2P model that require no upfront purchase. League of Legends, LOTRO, and Company of Heroes Online are a few of these. Just sign up for an account, download the software, and you're able to start playing.

No kidding. I didn't know they went that far into the free area now and aren't even selling box copies for LOTRO to play. So if you went for the subscription service you'd still not even need to buy a license for it other than the monthly sub?

 

[sactoking]

No kidding. I didn't know they went that far into the free area now and aren't even selling box copies for LOTRO to play. So if you went for the subscription service you'd still not even need to buy a license for it other than the monthly sub?

I believe the two paid expansions (Moria and Mirkwood) still require a purchase, but the original game (Angmar) is free.

 

[datalink7]

You are wrong. It clearly states here that LoTRO uses instanced worlds for pretty much all areas other than the main towns. It does say that LoTRO has some public dungeons that more people can enter, but they are still separate from the regular world.

What are you talking about, buddy? Maybe instead of just trying to bash me, you could have an intelligent conversation? Or would that be too much for you? Do you know anything about GW, LoTRO, and DDO? I've played all of these games and they all work very similarly. They have a main "town" area that holds X amount of people in each server. The majority of the quests, dungeons, etc are instanced, meaning that they are separate from the rest of the world. When you go into these instanced areas, you can only enter them with people who are members of your party. What in my other post was "completely wrong?"


I swear, people post shit like this just to start arguments. If you don't know what you're talking about, at least do some research. If you can't even do that, then do us all a favor and don't post at all.

Are you serious? You obviously haven't played the game at all. Outside of some high level boss areas that are instanced, most of the world is wide open. If you start in Bree, which is a quest hub, you don't enter a different instance when you leave town. You simply walk out and keep going right into the world with hundreds of other people.

For instance, here is someone riding from bree to rivendell. How many load screens did you notice? That's right: none.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Fsw6GSayGY

 

[MentalIlness]

For the Star Trek fans here. I've seen every episode ever made probably 3 times eacy. Any, who do you think would win ? Captain Picard vs. Captain Janeway ?

Me, I love Picard, But I think Voyager with the Hull Armor would cream the Enterprise E.

 

[Biren]

For the Star Trek fans here. I've seen every episode ever made probably 3 times eacy. Any, who do you think would win ? Captain Picard vs. Captain Janeway ?

Me, I love Picard, But I think Voyager with the Hull Armor would cream the Enterprise E.

Q would come and bitchslap Janeway for Picard.

 

[Craig234]

Here's my impression of Star Trek Online - only having played to level 9.

First, it doesn't seem to try much at all to capture a lot of the shows' broader themes - for example, there are a lot of non-combat storylines in the show, where combat is fairly uncommon, while the game is, like almost all MMO's, based on it, and filled with it, around a couple gameplay types.

It has that 'Turbine feel' it seems to be of 'artificial' that I noticed with City of Heroes a lot. Quite forced into the limited gameplay mechanics - you didn't used to be able to see the inside of your ship, for example. Planets are just the spots you beam to with very specific things. Not unexpected for MMO, but compared to the series, not too great.

How to spend points still seems very confusing.

The space graphics are very pretty, the music is good, a nice listenable bit of suspense.

The gameplay though to me seems very repetitive and grindy. It was like an hour or two were 'done' with that, then repeat many hours. It's all either ship vs. ships in space, or the endless find enemy squads on ground. Nothing about the combat seemed too exciting - shoot down the enemy's shields in space, tactical shooting on the ground with - unlike the shows - a whole lot of direct phaser hits during the battle. You really can't tell the difference between 'phasers' and 'arrows' in other games.

I got some mines to use - and had to run up to the enemy pew pew pew, drop the mines where they were, run away, (as they stood there) and set them off. Whee.

There are bits randomized in the quests, 'find this', 'this bad guy stole that item', but it's just artifical filling - 'land, walk, shoot squads, click the things'.

I remember in City of Heroes as you walked a street, civilians standing around would get little bubbles saying 'Did you hear Playername is a really great hero'. A few phrases repeated over and over. It was funny in Star Fleet bases to see npc's standing the same way saying the same thing. One more thing that just felt cheesy.

It'd be great to see the game do well, but I find it hard to recommend as designed. I'm glad some people really enjoy it, though.

 

[cronos]

Q would come and bitchslap Janeway for Picard.

You have it backwards. Throughout the series Q is always picking on Picard (from the pilot up until the finale), while he's actually befriend Janeway. He even asked Janeway to be his son's godmother and left him in Voyager so Janeway could teach him things.

 

[cronos]

I don't know if there'd be a lot of taker, but if there's anyone out there still interested in trying this out, the Collector's Edition is now on sale at amazon.com for $9.99 (free shipping with Prime).

Yes, that's right, only 10 bucks.
http://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Onli.../dp/B002V1PTO8

 

[ixelion]

For the Star Trek fans here. I've seen every episode ever made probably 3 times eacy. Any, who do you think would win ? Captain Picard vs. Captain Janeway ?

Me, I love Picard, But I think Voyager with the Hull Armor would cream the Enterprise E.

Enterprise E + Quantum Torpedoes = Derelict Voyager

 

[Jdawg84]

I remember almost paying 70 bucks for the collectors edition of this game.