I know the XP registration/activation scheme is aimed at large scale bootlegging, but I was wondering if anyone in here has had any trouble with activating the same XP disk on more than one home computer. I'm going to build another system out of some spare parts and I want to use XP on it, but there is no way I'm going to shell out another hundred bucks for the OS. For that matter, does anyone know if this activation system has actually cut down on the big bootleggers in Asia?
Has Microsoft actually refused to activate anyone's WinXP on multiple home systems?
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<< I know the XP registration/activation scheme is aimed at large scale bootlegging >>
Actually...its only aimed at keeping johnny from installing his copy of XP on his sisters system, or Dad making a copy of XP for his Parents..
<< I want to use XP on it, but there is no way I'm going to shell out another hundred bucks for the OS. >>
Then don't use it you theif... Don't steal your OS's, try an OS you can afford..
Good OS For Cheap
Good OS For Cheap
<< For that matter, does anyone know if this activation system has actually cut down on the big bootleggers in Asia? >>
Nope..but its sure seems like its working on you isnt it? Exactly like it was designed..
Take your talk of stealing, and your attempts to be a theif somewhere else.... it's against the rules here and unacceptable to pollute a respectable site like this with your type of trash.
<< Then don't use it you theif... Don't steal your OS's, try an OS you can afford.. >>
take it easy on him, you'll notice this is his first post...
but to be totally honest gambbt, dahitman is right, by not paying you are stealing.
i am curious as to his question though, i wonder what would happen if you tried to register it again, does it give you an error message saying it is already installed? if that's the case than if you were to reinstall it on the same machine after formating it should not allow you to install, unless ms has your "hardware fingerprint" on file, and I dont know how I feel about that.
so anyone know what would happen (or rather what is going to happen) when I decide to reinstall xp? or just plain what happens if you are to try to steal it?
I can just imagine:
"this is the M$ police, come out with your hands up..."
-Spy
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I think once it's activated on a second computer, the original is "unactivated" so to speak.
this leaves you with 3 options:
(1)Try one of the various Linux or BSD distros (Might take a while to get used to, but you can do everything you can do in Win32 with them. They are a valid option. Linux and BSD are not second rate OS's like many people seem to think.)
(2) Buy another copy of XP
(3) Bootleg XP "special edition". (note: illegal)
I'm not a pro with *nix yet, but its intresting. I think there eventually will be some type of migration to it, and you can bet your ass that big corporations arent running their servers on Win32. Try it out.. you might just like it
this leaves you with 3 options:
(1)Try one of the various Linux or BSD distros (Might take a while to get used to, but you can do everything you can do in Win32 with them. They are a valid option. Linux and BSD are not second rate OS's like many people seem to think.)
(2) Buy another copy of XP
(3) Bootleg XP "special edition". (note: illegal)
I'm not a pro with *nix yet, but its intresting. I think there eventually will be some type of migration to it, and you can bet your ass that big corporations arent running their servers on Win32. Try it out.. you might just like it
Good OS for cheap (RedHat)
Especially with wine you can run almost anything
Good OS for cheap (FreeBSD)
I use FreeBSD, I love it and I worship it, but I would never use it as a desktop system. Server all the way. *grin*.
Dood, seriously, if you want to just copy an operating system, install some old stuff w/o product activation.
Not that I aprove of that.
Especially with wine you can run almost anything
Good OS for cheap (FreeBSD)
I use FreeBSD, I love it and I worship it, but I would never use it as a desktop system. Server all the way. *grin*.
Dood, seriously, if you want to just copy an operating system, install some old stuff w/o product activation.
Not that I aprove of that.
<< I think once it's activated on a second computer, the original is "unactivated" so to speak. >>
"Unactivated" how does that work?
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<< I think once it's activated on a second computer, the original is "unactivated" so to speak. >>
"Unactivated" how does that work? >>
It's not like that. MS just won't take too kindly to you trying to reactivate your old install if you have to reinstall, for example.
Im sorry but if it is for his own secodn computer You guys are a bit quick to call it stealing. do you work for microsofgt or something?
acording to all traditional fair rights use, as well as many court precedents it is NOT stealing. The issue is still being debated in the courts as well as congress. its not over yet.
My money is on consumer protection legislation winning this one. a EULA is not always or even usualy a binding legal document.
acording to all traditional fair rights use, as well as many court precedents it is NOT stealing. The issue is still being debated in the courts as well as congress. its not over yet.
My money is on consumer protection legislation winning this one. a EULA is not always or even usualy a binding legal document.
<< I thought that it was legal to install the operating system on a lap top also in conjunction with your home pc. Has anyone heard or read about this. >>
Technically yes, if you have a single license for a M$ OS you can only install it on one machine.
<< Im sorry but if it is for his own secodn computer You guys are a bit quick to call it stealing. do you work for microsofgt or something? >>
chill out, no I dont work for M$ and I dont think dahitman does either. The point was simply that "technically" it is breaking the rules. I know very well that just about *everyone* (including myself) has bootlegged a M$ OS at some point in time, and yes "technically" I do think that is stealing. If it's okay to install it on 2 machines than why not 3, or 4, or 10, or 100? M$ is simply covering their own @sses.
Now back to the origional question, does anyone know what will happen if you try and register it twice? Seriously, I plan on formating and reinstalling my XP box when my new HD shows up and I want to know what would happen if I were using the *legal* copy of XP Pro that I own (rather than the corp. CD to avoid the registration BS).
-Spy
<< Im sorry but if it is for his own secodn computer You guys are a bit quick to call it stealing. do you work for microsofgt or something?
acording to all traditional fair rights use, as well as many court precedents it is NOT stealing. The issue is still being debated in the courts as well as congress. its not over yet.
My money is on consumer protection legislation winning this one. a EULA is not always or even usualy a binding legal document. >>
<< Im sorry but if it is for his own secodn computer You guys are a bit quick to call it stealing. do you work for microsofgt or something? acording to all traditional fair rights use, as well as many court precedents it is NOT stealing. The issue is still being debated in the courts as well as congress. its not over yet. My money is on consumer protection legislation winning this one. a EULA is not always or even usualy a binding legal document. >>
Your right the EULA is still being tested and redifined in the courts. One of the companies who have been taken to task the most though has been Adobe and as I remember from a Salon.com article they lost a case which basiclly said that it was okay for anyone to break up and sell their bundled software from Adobe once it has already been paid for by the customer and thus setting precendent. Also I suspect that MS might alsol see more court time as well for it's EULA since they are going after that get donated PC's in schools with MS software on them. I have a feeling though that MS doesn't have a leg to stand on since that software has already been paid for by the orginal person who donated it and to ask for schools to repurchase basiclly what has already been paid for is more of double dipping in MS's case and it will further weaken the EULA which more then likely tends to violate many local, state and federal consumer laws in some states and in reality most of which is enforceable.
I actually have 2 computers with the same WinXP copy installed on both of them. Here is what I did:
-I installed it first on one computer. Registered online as normal.
-I installed it on a 2nd computer about 1 week later. When I tried to regiester online, it gave me thes message that this copy was already installed and to contact microsoft activation. I contacted them and told them that I had installed a bunch of new parts on my computer. They asked me what parts and I told them mobo, cpu, hd, cd-rom. They said ok, here is the code you have to input to manually activate it. I input the code and it activated the 2nd copy.
The end.
-I installed it first on one computer. Registered online as normal.
-I installed it on a 2nd computer about 1 week later. When I tried to regiester online, it gave me thes message that this copy was already installed and to contact microsoft activation. I contacted them and told them that I had installed a bunch of new parts on my computer. They asked me what parts and I told them mobo, cpu, hd, cd-rom. They said ok, here is the code you have to input to manually activate it. I input the code and it activated the 2nd copy.
The end.
GrumpyMan
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<< I actually have 2 computers with the same WinXP copy installed on both of them. Here is what I did: -I installed it first on one computer. Registered online as normal. -I installed it on a 2nd computer about 1 week later. When I tried to regiester online, it gave me thes message that this copy was already installed and to contact microsoft activation. I contacted them and told them that I had installed a bunch of new parts on my computer. They asked me what parts and I told them mobo, cpu, hd, cd-rom. They said ok, here is the code you have to input to manually activate it. I input the code and it activated the 2nd copy. The end. >>
I could be wrong as usual but doesn't XP phone home every 3 months and verifies that it has a legal activation code which resends the computer hardware setup that is on the computer?
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<< I actually have 2 computers with the same WinXP copy installed on both of them. Here is what I did: -I installed it first on one computer. Registered online as normal. -I installed it on a 2nd computer about 1 week later. When I tried to regiester online, it gave me thes message that this copy was already installed and to contact microsoft activation. I contacted them and told them that I had installed a bunch of new parts on my computer. They asked me what parts and I told them mobo, cpu, hd, cd-rom. They said ok, here is the code you have to input to manually activate it. I input the code and it activated the 2nd copy. The end. >>
I could be wrong as usual but doesn't XP phone home every 3 months and verifies that it has a legal activation code which resends the computer hardware setup that is on the computer? >>
I think you are wrong. Otherwise, Bill Gates would have called me by now.
<< I think you are wrong. Otherwise, Bill Gates would have called me by now.
>>how do you know he's not on his way to your house right now? you better run while you still can!
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<B>Is there rechecking of the activation done after initial activation? Is there any secret data transfer to Microsoft?</B>
The product does check itself from time to time to see if it is activated and if it is still on the same PC on which it was originally activated, but at no time whatsoever is information transferred to Microsoft as a result of Product Activation except while the user is actually in the process of activating the system. There absolutely is no "secret" data transfer.
<B>Does Microsoft Product Activation allow customers to install products on a laptop as well as on a PC?</B>
Consumers should refer to the terms of the product's End User License Agreement. In some cases, the Microsoft EULA allows customers who are the primary user of Microsoft applications such as Office and Word to install one additional copy on their laptop computer for their exclusive use. This does not apply to product licenses acquired with the purchase of a PC. These OEM licenses are single-use licenses that cannot be transferred to another PC.
This is taken from the Microsoft activation site. This is what I remember reading. Getting older I guess.
The product does check itself from time to time to see if it is activated and if it is still on the same PC on which it was originally activated, but at no time whatsoever is information transferred to Microsoft as a result of Product Activation except while the user is actually in the process of activating the system. There absolutely is no "secret" data transfer.
<B>Does Microsoft Product Activation allow customers to install products on a laptop as well as on a PC?</B>
Consumers should refer to the terms of the product's End User License Agreement. In some cases, the Microsoft EULA allows customers who are the primary user of Microsoft applications such as Office and Word to install one additional copy on their laptop computer for their exclusive use. This does not apply to product licenses acquired with the purchase of a PC. These OEM licenses are single-use licenses that cannot be transferred to another PC.
This is taken from the Microsoft activation site. This is what I remember reading. Getting older I guess.
<< Take your talk of stealing, and your attempts to be a theif somewhere else.... it's against the rules here and unacceptable to pollute a respectable site like this with your type of trash. >>
Unless it's talk of copyrighted Mp3's or Divx movies that you got from a file sharing progam even though you don't own the original.
<< I thought that it was legal to install the operating system on a lap top also in conjunction with your home pc. >>
Only true for Office, not OS's.
<< Anyone get the impression n0cmonkey is plugging something here? >>
yea.. shame on you n0c for promoting FREE software!..
It appears Microsoft has many of you right where it wants you. Scared, inconvieneced, living in fear and you putting up with them spying on your computer.
Meanwhile the good old US of A passed laws to protect the Microsoft monopoly and on the other hand sues Microsoft for monopolistic policy. What a hoot...
Mac
Meanwhile the good old US of A passed laws to protect the Microsoft monopoly and on the other hand sues Microsoft for monopolistic policy. What a hoot...
Mac
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