Has it occured to anyone that

HappyPuppy

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...one of the tactics of terrorism is to keep the victims off balance by getting them to fight amongst themselves? Introduce doubt and suspicion into their lives concerning the government and political leaders they depend on to keep them safe? To create doubt as to whether their leaders are trully dedicated to protecting them from further physical attacks by employing a far more subtle form of psychological terrorism?

Terrorism isn't just crashing airplanes into buildings, blowing up boats alongside warships or having "martyrs" explode in a shopping malls. Those are only the preliminary acts of terrorism. Those are the bloodiest, but not the most insidious acts in their plan.

Do not ever believe that the terrorists are all ignorant peasants carrying explosives into nightclubs and shopping malls. The real terrorists are college educated and well funded. They understand the value of psychological warfare.

As you surf through the boards and forums of your favorite websites and come across threads attacking the veracity of your government and your leaders, usually posted under the same username, or under different usernames but with the same sound and feel to the negative attack, ask yourself if this could be phase 2 of the terrorist attack on America.

You try to rationalize with them, ask them questions, beg them to give you an answer to something they have said and all you get are more attacks on your credibility and the credibility of our government.

Maybe I'm just overly suspicious, but I have seen these threads, as have many of you. You never get an answer to your questions, just more negative posts about your political leaders.

 

shiner

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Hmmm....interesting point but I don't think wxman or hivemaster have the intelligence to be terrorists. Then again homicide bombers aren't the brightest stars in the sky.
 

HappyPuppy

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The psychological damage of terrorism is far more incapacitating than the physical damage, though. No?
 

gopunk

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what you say is true, but how do you separate the good from the bad in this case?
 

Kadarin

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I suppose it's possible, but it's also redundant. There are enough stupid people out there who would post such threads without encouragment from terrorist organizations.
 

HappyPuppy

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That is one of the purposes of terrorism. To make you unsure of what to believe.

If I had the answer I would be working 200 feet underground in an ultra high security intelligence facility.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
That is one of the purposes of terrorism. To make you unsure of what to believe.

If I had the answer I would be working 200 feet underground in an ultra high security intelligence facility.

for all we know, you are :p

anyways, there is basically nothing we can do, other than make sure that our opinions are well thought out and not rehash of what we see and hear in the media, or on message boards like this. knowledge is our best defence... hehe how corny :p
 

tcsenter

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LOL! You've got to love this. First he goes on to "define" a tactic of terrorism:
Has it occured to anyone that one of the tactics of terrorism is to...introduce doubt and suspicion into their lives concerning the government and political leaders...to create doubt as to whether their leaders are trully dedicated to protecting them from further physical attacks by employing a far more subtle form of psychological terrorism?
Then he engages in the VERY SAME thing he describes as "one of the tactics of terrorism":
As you surf through the boards and forums of your favorite websites and come across threads attacking the veracity of your government and your leaders, usually posted under the same username, or under different usernames but with the same sound and feel to the negative attack, ask yourself if this could be phase 2 of the terrorist attack on America.
So you're really saying that...you're a terrorist? Since you are attempting to "introduce doubt and suspicion into their lives...?"

On edit: I'm sure that's not what you intended to mean, but for some reason that's the way I interpreted it.
 

gopunk

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well, lets not turn this into one big witchhunt / mccarthy reincarnate :p then the terrorists would really be winning...
 

rgwalt

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Or, they could be normal people who just don't like the USA, and who can't formulate a coherent argument. This is another facet of terrorism... Make us question diversity and anything un-American. We can't afford to second guess ourselves. Best thing to do is maintain our resolve in what we believe and not be swayed by what others say.

Ryan
 

DaveSimmons

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It's true that fear, uncertainty, and doubt are weapons used by terrorists.

It's also true that FUD is used by corporations to attack competitors (e.g. Microsoft's attacks on open source & Linux).

And FUD is a favorite tactic of dictatorial governments to oppress their people -- be good sheep, obey the rules or terrible things will happen to you.

Vigilance against terrorism is a good thing, but blind obedience to elected officials (in either party) is not the way to a strong and healthy democracy.

It is not supporting terrorism to question (for example) whether exploration in ANWR is a better solution to a steady oil supply than supporting conservation. It is not supporting terrorism to ask whether Dick Cheney was granting favors to the Enron executives that helped fund the presidential campaign. Is is not supporting terrorism to say that Tom Daschle is playing cynical partisan politics in implying that Bush could have actually done something with the vague intelligence information about a possible hijacking.
 

element

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Maybe I'm just overly suspicious, but I have seen these threads, as have many of you. You never get an answer to your questions, just more negative posts about your political leaders.

First of all this is what makes this country great. The fact that it is for the people by the people, and that we have the freedom to disagree with our govt and to critisize it to change this country into what we think is right.

We are not going to let terrorists change what the country was founded on.

Also you say "you never get an answer...just negative posts..."

Rational people still aren't going to listen to irrational attacks verbal or otherwise.

 

her209

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Yes... but what happens when the goverment not working for the will of its people but of itself? I mean, if there is no conspiracy, then the investigation will show that and give people more faith than what they had before, otherwise, there will be some very upset folks, especially when you consider that most of them are paying taxes every year to fund the government.
 
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Not being suspicious and critical of our government leaders helped get us into this mess. How many of us thought on 9/10/01 that our government was doing a fine job of keeping their eye on real threats and protecting us from them? I think if one good thing has come from the attacks, it's that the average citizen's apathy towards the govrnment has turned into interest, and a lot of us don't like what we see.