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Has Bush torn apart the Republican coalition?

Phokus

Phokus

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It seems to me the big tension between Wall Street Republicans vs. Social Republicans has just been ripped over by Bush's remarks

The Wall Street Journal has gone to war with the National Review

http://minx.cc/?post=228476

Laura Ingram rips into Bush for betraying the base

http://www2.nationalreview.com/dest/2007/05/30/mono.mp3

Peggy Noonan sees the writing on the walls for the republican party:

http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/




If the Left, right, and center hates Bush, what will his legacy be?
 
By the time the true extent of Bushes damaging policies are fully understood the name Bush will be synonomous with dumb and dangerous.
 
Originally posted by: techs
By the time the true extent of Bushes damaging policies are fully understood the name Bush will be synonomous with dumb and dangerous.
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I disagree. I think it will be synonomous with reckless, arrogant, and corrupt.

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To a certain extent GWB serves three masters. The religious right, the very conservative, and the very rich. By in large the religious right has been satisfied with rhetoric and little action on the boogie man of abortion. And the very conservative has been resistant to any immigration reform. And the very rich want a large and cheap labor supply. The immigration reform issue does split that coalition. And we also see what priority wags the dog.
 
Bush has shrinking months and a hostile congress to try to push through agenda items from his core supporters. His obsession with being the "War President" limits his reach on issues that require cooperation between Republicans and Democrats.

The better barometer of the state of flux in the Republican party is the behavior of the candidates. They are all over the map trying to salvage what's left of any coalition.
 
Originally posted by: Phokus
If the Left, right, and center hates Bush, what will his legacy be?
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As the Uniter, who managed to unite his own country, and a significant portion of the world, against him.
 
Originally posted by: techs
By the time the true extent of Bushes damaging policies are fully understood the name Bush will be synonomous with dumb and dangerous.
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How about synonymous with:

"Worst President in American History"
 
Originally posted by: Lemon law
To a certain extent GWB serves three masters. The religious right, the very conservative, and the very rich. By in large the religious right has been satisfied with rhetoric and little action on the boogie man of abortion. And the very conservative has been resistant to any immigration reform. And the very rich want a large and cheap labor supply. The immigration reform issue does split that coalition. And we also see what priority wags the dog.
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Originally posted by: Zedtom
Bush has shrinking months and a hostile congress to try to push through agenda items from his core supporters. His obsession with being the "War President" limits his reach on issues that require cooperation between Republicans and Democrats.

The better barometer of the state of flux in the Republican party is the behavior of the candidates. They are all over the map trying to salvage what's left of any coalition.
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Both excellent posts but I'd like to hear from the resident Republicans.
 
Yes, there is an internal struggle between conservatives and neo-cons in the republican party and has been since shortly after the 04 election.

The failure of 06 turned the heat up into open warfare. I believe Bush's speech write about 10 months ago wrote an editorial about how old conservatives are relics that need to be snuffed out of the republican party in favor of social conservatism.
 
I?ll certainly never vote for someone with Bush?s policies ever again, unless of course the alternative is someone _further_ to the left. Then we once again have choice between two wrongs and which is the lesser.
 
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
I?ll certainly never vote for someone with Bush?s policies ever again, unless of course the alternative is someone _further_ to the left. Then we once again have choice between two wrongs and which is the lesser.
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Who was the more conservative president - GWB or Clinton?

Consider the size of government spending and deficits; the Medicare drug progam; the aggression in foreign policy and 'nation building' when conservatives are usually more isolationist; government powers with the patriot act and domestic spying, and aggressive use of monitoring, 'enemy combatants' and extaordinary rendition, etc.; and Clinton's reductions to welfare.
 
Clinton probably does have a more conservative record than Bush, now find someone who will be on the ballot.

and Clinton's reductions to welfare.
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You don?t blame the Republican congress for doing that? 😕
 
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Clinton probably does have a more conservative record than Bush, now find someone who will be on the ballot.

and Clinton's reductions to welfare.
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You don?t blame the Republican congress for doing that? 😕
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It was one of his center planks. He worked on it with the Dem congress even before CWA.
 
Even the Religious Right is not satisfied with the Republican candidates.
And the fact that Jim Baker was called in is an example of how screwed up things are, and that reasonable R's are trying to do damage control before they lose the WH for the next 30 years.
 
I think Bush has had minimal impact, good or bad, on the Republican party. I think it's clear that they have been in an identity crisis, of sorts, for years now. Only recently have they started to realize the full effects.

Frankly, the clevage in American politics is quite burdensome to common sense and logical reasoning. 30+ years ago Democrats and Republicans had more in common, were more closely aligned on important cultural issues (e.g. women's rights), and you even had conservatives siding slightly with Dems and liberals slightly with Republicans. The divisiveness over the last several decades has really sharpened a red/blue divide that just shouldn't exist. There's no reason for Dems to be so far left on issues such as the war in Iraq or Republicans to be so conservative on issues such as abortion or homosexual rights.
 
Factions have driven the Republican party to an extreme that would make Goldwater himself blush.
 
Originally posted by: Phokus
It seems to me the big tension between Wall Street Republicans vs. Social Republicans has just been ripped over by Bush's remarks

The Wall Street Journal has gone to war with the National Review

http://minx.cc/?post=228476

Laura Ingram rips into Bush for betraying the base

http://www2.nationalreview.com/dest/2007/05/30/mono.mp3

Peggy Noonan sees the writing on the walls for the republican party:

http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/




If the Left, right, and center hates Bush, what will his legacy be?
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Illegal Immigration Shamnesty Bill.

His dad's legacy? "Read My Lips. No New Taxes"

Clinton? "That Woman"

Carter? He gave away the Panama Canal, The attack on the US Embassy in Iran, The rise of Al Qaeda and many many more

Reagan? The fall of Soviet Union and the emmergence of new countries and winning 49states in the election.




 
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