Has anyone used Internet over Ethernet?

[Santa]

We are being offered this service and I am considering supplementing our current NxT1 Internet solution. They also will bring in a second loop into a differnt part of our building allowing for a more diverse route for redundancy.

The speed and price is very agressive. How do compare 1.5Mbps to 6Mbps or 10Mbps for the same cost?!?

Just curious if anyone out there has tried this type of internet connectivity out..

 

[Mday]

i have a feeling that the building's management just wired the entire building for a high speed connection, and offers it to it's tenants. find out what they are using (as much info as possible) and any guaranteed speeds. if it's a good deal ($$$) go for it.

 

[Santa]

We are a stand alone building and are being offered both switched solution and dedicated.

 

[spidey07]

Santa,

It can be good or it can be bad. It all depends on your provider and their back end network.

What kind of guarntees can you get on bandwidth, latency and uptime? If they won't offer it then run.

 

[cmetz]

Santa, I can give you a gigabit Ethernet Internet connection. Uplinking to a modem.

You need to ask what is beyond the Ethernet you get. Is it a true metro Ethernet network? What kind of interconnects does the provider have - how fast, and to whom?

Ask for reference customers. Any ISP worth anything should be able to provide some, and you can make some phone calls and find out how happy those customers are (presumably all of them will be happy, but you can get some sanity checks vs. the sales folks' claims)

 

[labgeek]

We use 10mpbs NMLI line for the main campus. It was a noticable improvement over a couple of inverse multiplexed T1s at about the same cost. In the past year I can think of 2 outages, and not for very long. We lose satellite links primarily T1s much more often.

 

[spidey07]

Just a quick note on NMLI.

Be very careful when you use it. It can add as much as 10-20 msec of latency to your circuit depending on how they engineer it. You would wind up going through 10 bridges before you get to the ISP with multiple fiber/copper conversions.

 

[Santa]

The provider offering the Internet over Ethernet is Time Warner. They are going to do the local loop and provide the bandwidth.

Supposidly they are offering both dedicated bandwidth up to 100Mbps if we want but they also have a switched solution that they don't offer any gurantees except that they only oversubscribe by 4:1 which I don't fully trust but hey if im getting 100Mbps over shared medium for the cost of 10Mbps guranteed I may risk it

They are running a NAP through our city with two diverse OCX lines coming out of here. 12,000 or 18,000 miles of fiber yadda yadda marketing speak.

So is this Internet over Ethernet going to become a fad or actual implementable technology?

I think we are going to try it out in hopes to supplement our current traditional Internet line but I have not heard too many people who use this.

What is NMLI?

 

[deadseasquirrel]

edit: just saw it was Time Warner. much better than the ones I was telling you to watch out for prior to this edit. TW will actually trench fiber out there and use alternate entrances from the LEC currently in the building. thats good. yeah, i wouldnt trust their 4:1 either, but like you said, it sounds like a very good deal.

deadseasquirrel

 

[Oaf357]

Ahh...

The beauty of fiber. Sounds like a good deal (especially since TW is offering it). I'd at least research their backbone a little before getting into it. Otherwise, I'd say go for it.

 

[spidey07]

beware,

be very aware...

I've had to "fix" a couple of customers NMLI connections because of extremely high latency. The fix is to replace it with a DS3.

Good luck santa. seriously. Try before you buy.