Has anyone ever known a murder victim or murderer?

[Perknose]

You all know way too much death.

In the end, we ALL make its intimate and personal acquaintance, no exceptions, none.

Because I could not stop for Death,
He kindly stopped for me.

-- Emily Dickinson

 

[QueBert]

I met a co-workers roomate years ago, he was from the middle east. This was before 9/11, he went home and wanted to come back here. But it was after 9/11 and they denied his Visa. He ended up being the biggest suicide bomber, I believe 120 died. It's crazy because the times I hung around him he seemed like one of the nicest guys you could meet.

 

[Taughnter]

An old roommate of mine and some of his friends were out at the bars one night when they saw a few kids get jumped by a larger group of kids (the bigger group was believed to be gang-related). One of the guys with my roommate went over to help somebody up off the ground and he was hit in the back of the head, fell down, and his head hit the pavement. He died a few days later from the swelling. Not that it necessarily makes it worse, but he really was one of the nicest people I've ever known. May not technically be a murder, either, but I think it's close enough.

A few years before that I lived with a guy whose father had killed the mother/wife and her boyfriend when he walked in on them. The story I was told was that they were in bed and he strangled them both with his bare hands. It was considered a crime of passion and he went to prison for about 5-10 years. The guy I lived with ended up moving out about 9 months into our lease to try to patch things up with his father, so I did get to meet him when he came to help move. If I didn't know about his past, I would never have guessed he was anything but an upstanding guy and as far as I know he really turned his life around.

I've also met accused murderers, people who were victims in attempted murders, and relatives of murder victims through my school and some past jobs I've had. The weirdest one is my friend whose ex-wife tried to stab him in the back when they were meeting up to transfer custody of their daughter.

 

[ichy]

My friends friend, only 17, killed his mom and tried to kill his dad but missed and shot him in the arm.

He is facing the Death Penalty.....

No he's not. In the US you cannot face the DP if you weren't at least 18 at the time of the crime.

 

[DougK62]

I know a man who killed someone, but I wouldn't call him a murderer. He shot and killed a home intruder.

 

[ichy]

Two members of my graduating class in college were murdered. I didn't really know either of them, but I went to a relatively small school so a lot of my friends did. The girl who was murdered was the lab partner of my roommate at the time.

One of them was a guy named Chris Elser, killed in a random home invasion. A burglar entered an unlocked door at the guy's fraternity house at night. Guy in question hears a noise, gets up to investigate it and is stabbed to death. The dirtbag who did it was never caught.

The second was a young woman named Linda Trinh. The dirtbag ex-boyfriend of her roommate came to rob their apartment, expecting it to be empty. He was surprised to find her there and ended up strangling her. Guy got caught, was facing life w/o parole if he'd been convicted at trial, ended up pleading guilty in exchange for straight life. In theory he'll be eligible for parole after serving twelve years, but in Maryland most lifers never get parole even if they're eligible.

 

[ichy]

I know a man who killed someone, but I wouldn't call him a murderer. He shot and killed a home intruder.

He's a hero.

 

[Perknose]

Oh yeah, last one I think. Tommy Roth. His nickname was Rodo. He was what you would call a "bad seed." While I was still in Catholic grade school, he and I both had to stay after for some sort of detention. The nuns would often give you the necessary daily job of beating the chalk out of the erasers.

We were alone in the classroom and got into some sort of dispute so we started tussling. I got a few good ones in and put him down and it was over quickly because we both knew too much noise would get us both in further trouble.

I never liked him or trusted him. No one really did. Fast forward to my mid-teens, and he'd grown larger than me. I was shooting hoops by myself one day when he happened by and thought he could shark me in a game of Horse. He put up some watch he'd probably stolen, and I put up like three bucks, all the money I had on me.

I won, to his surprise, and he then didn't want to give me the watch. So, we went at it again, only this time it was longer and a bit bloodier. I was probably lucky to get the best of him, but I was pissed. I took his watch and stomped into the macadam of the court while he still lay there, bruised, a bit bloody, and moaning.

Never saw much of him again. By that time, I'd escaped to public school. I did hear that when he went to Cardinal O'Hara HS, he kind of went nuts, challenging all the biggest and mostly older guys to fights.

Anyway, a few years later I was home for the summer from college when I heard he'd been shot dead by a homeowner whose house he'd broken into. Rodo. That kid was just never any good. We all felt sorry for his older brother, a stand-up guy.

 

[hanoverphist]

first murdered person i saw was when i was about 8 or 9. didnt know him, but saw his headless body being put into the meat wagon. i worked with a guy years ago that did 10 years for murder. it would have been self defense if he hadnt shot the guy 6 times. he was raging, the guy was trying to rape his girlfriend. ive seen 3 friends murdered, had 5 others murdered over the years and known a bunch of murderers. i try not to associate with them. the older i get the less i want to have that past.

 

[AreaCode707]

My uncle sent a suicide note to my aunt (his sister) and the Las Vegas police department confessing to the murder of his wife. They found him in a closet of their house post-shotgun and found her in a freezer in the next room, estimated to have been there about two years.

He was always strange, but we never had any clue about something like this. It was his fourth marriage and nobody was closely in touch with him so we never questioned his claim that she'd left him.

 

[bfdd]

Yes actually. Was on the news, pretty big deal here in Southern California a few years back. They found her body dismembered in trash bags on the side of a high way.

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/feb/19/local/me-bodyfound19

 

[jersiq]

The only brush I've had was with some former coworkers.

In High School I was working at a full serve gas station. I worked there with Matt, an early twentysomething and George a 50 year old who had a son the same age as Matt. Matt and George's son never really got along, but fortunately they worked differing shifts so nothing really ever came of it. Whenever I worked with Matt, something always seemed "off" about him. He never did anything more than mischief, but I always felt like the intent to do more was there.

I left for boot camp, and about a month in, my mother sends me a newspaper clipping of a murder at the station where I used to work. Apparently, during a botched robbery attempt (Matt had been fired a bit earlier) he stabbed George 30 times. Last I knew Matt was serving something like 30 years.

Glad he never tried to rob me.

 

[Muse]

A guy I'd work with killed his brother and them himself. He though his girlfriend(who also worked with us before getting pregnant) was messing around with his brother. Then she told him that she wanted out of the relationship, so he left for 45 minutes. When he came back, he went to the back room and his brother followed. There, he put 42 rounds into the brother, using a SKS, shotgun, and .45 handgun. The worst part is that Susan and the kid were in the house at the other end.
http://www.athensreview.com/local/x993488969/Murder-suicide-alleged

Lesson is: Choose your friends, and particularly your lovers carefully. There can be some pretty heavy dues.

 

[Muse]

Jeez... I thought I'd come in here and see mostly 'no'...but it seems murder is more prevalent than I thought. I don't know anybody.

Well, you're in Canada. Consider yourself lucky. Americans are a bloodthirsty people.

 

[NuclearNed]

A high school friend of mine broke into his grandfather's house to steal some stuff. It turns out that old granddad was home, so my friend beat him to death and then tried to burn the house down.

In high school, he was a really nice, friendly person.

 

[MetalMat]

My good friend Kyle Got murdered in Dallas a couple years ago. 2 pieces of crap robbed him as he was walking out of a bar in downtown Dallas, they then ran him over in their truck and took off leaving him there to die. But they have been caught and I am just hoping justice will be served. Not only that but when the police found the body they found a homeless guy going through his pockets looking for stuff.

RIP Kyle, you were a very good person and you will always be missed. You were way too young....


I also had an old roomate of mine commit suicide a few years back. He was kind of a depressed individual, I would always try to cheer him up with little luck. Me and Alex had a falling out but I did see him a few hours right before he killed himself and he seemed pretty happy. I made amends with him that night. RIP Alex

 

[Muse]

A few years before that I lived with a guy whose father had killed the mother/wife and her boyfriend when he walked in on them. The story I was told was that they were in bed and he strangled them both with his bare hands. It was considered a crime of passion and he went to prison for about 5-10 years. The guy I lived with ended up moving out about 9 months into our lease to try to patch things up with his father, so I did get to meet him when he came to help move. If I didn't know about his past, I would never have guessed he was anything but an upstanding guy and as far as I know he really turned his life around.

I think this is an extreme example of a circumstance in which a person is set off, triggered. I'm convinced that there are some people you don't want to so much as look at wrong or they could flat out kill you. There are a lot of unbalanced people around. I'm not saying this guy is/was one of them. Finding their wife in bed with a strange man would provoke many men to homicide, women too. Have you heard the song by 999, "Homicide?" "Hey Joe, where you going with that gun in your hand?"

Homicide lyrics:

i believe in homicide i rest my case,
don't cast a sigh you'd better believe it,
that's the truth of it take it or leave it, resign to it homicide,
homicide, homicide, homicide
no one cares when someone lies they'd rather say that it's a red alert
you'd better believe it,
that's the truth of it take it or leave it,
resign to it homicide, homicide, homicide, homicide homicide, homicide
homicide, homicide
you try to tell me it's his fault because he's down
and let him lose this homicide all over town
i'll take enough but i'll take it down what's your address,
i'll write it down i'll be in touch
so don't leave town in a big black car
(solo) homicide, homicide, homicide i believe in homicide
i rest my case, don't cast a sigh you'd better believe it,
that's the truth of it, take it or leave it,
resign to it homicide, homicide, homicide ,homicide homicide, homicide
, homicide ,homicide homicide, homicide, homicide ,homicide homi,
homi, homi, homi, homi, homi, homi, homi homi, homi, homi, homi,
homi, homi, homi, homi homicide

 

[Muse]

No he's not. In the US you cannot face the DP if you weren't at least 18 at the time of the crime.

I think there can be exceptions where a minor is "tried as an adult."

 

[Muse]

My uncle sent a suicide note to my aunt (his sister) and the Las Vegas police department confessing to the murder of his wife. They found him in a closet of their house post-shotgun and found her in a freezer in the next room, estimated to have been there about two years.

He was always strange, but we never had any clue about something like this. It was his fourth marriage and nobody was closely in touch with him so we never questioned his claim that she'd left him.

Man, that is hell of spooky!

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Me and Alex had a falling out but I did see him a few hours right before he killed himself and he seemed pretty happy. I made amends with him that night. RIP Alex

wow. i'm glad you got to set things right.

this thread makes me :'(

 

[ichy]

I think there can be exceptions where a minor is "tried as an adult."

Nope, no exceptions since Roper v. Simmons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roper_v._Simmons

It was a terrible decision, but not it's the law of the land.

 

[rasczak]

I've had family be the victim........twice in the last 30 years..........:|:|

I had two second cousins (watched them grow up so I knew them well) murdered. Both were gang related. It's sad to see as the oldest one was only 19, just had a child and tried to turn the corner by getting a job and becoming the dad his real dad was not. He was gunned down in a drive-by while he was sitting in the passengers seat of a car. The other was his youngest brother who was washing his car in the driveway when someone pulled up to him and shot him in the back of the head. They had him on life-support for a week before they finally pulled the plug. At this point neither case has been solved, probably because both fuckers are hiding in Mexico.

The best decision I ever made was not joining a gang (which was very prevalent while I grew up in National City during the mid eighties to early nineties). Gangs suck.

 

[guyver01]

Nope, no exceptions since Roper v. Simmons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roper_v._Simmons

It was a terrible decision, but not it's the law of the land.

I like this info..

In Ex parte Adams, 955 So. 2d 1106 (Ala. 2005), the Supreme Court of Alabama remanded the death sentence of a juvenile for a rehearing in the lower court in light of the Roper decision, which was released while the Adams case was pending appeal. Justice Tom Parker, who had participated in the prosecution of the case, recused himself. He, however, published an op-ed in The Birmingham News to criticize his non-recused colleagues for the decision. "State supreme courts may decline to follow bad U.S. Supreme Court precedents because those decisions bind only the parties to the particular case", wrote Justice Parker.

 

[ichy]

I'm no fan of the Roper decision, but Justice Parker is a moron.

 

[Beev]

A kid from my class killed his grandma, and my mom worked with a woman whose husband murdered her.

This was in a very small town, too. Small as in the town has zero stoplights.