Has anyone ever installed a remote car starter? Is it difficult?

edprush

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Has anyone ever installed a remote car starter? Is it difficult?

I am considering installing one so I don't have to traipse into the freezing weather more than I have to.

Thanks, edprush
 

Ornery

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I got one for my wife a year ago at Best Buy for $150. Why install it yourself when they only charge about $40 to do it for you? Circuit City has similar prices. Look for sales and coupons. You can probably have it for as little as $130 installed! If they install it, you can go back and have the remote reprogrammed over and over for free.

1999 Christmas Gift

The Valet 551T purchased and installed at Best Buy for only $150

More personal install info...
 

cxim

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They are easy to install.

My instructions start out... Take a parcel of hair from the top of your head & run briskly across...... & then the rest is too faint to read.

Hope this helps !
 

edprush

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Holy crap, $150!

I wonder what the deal is with the $45 remote starters they're selling at Target?

 

Wangel

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These things are great! Just make sure to leave your car in gear and make sure your wife has to walk in front of your car to get to her car. WooHoo!
 

tontod

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I just had a remote car starter installed at Circuit City for 175 incl. tax. Its great. I dont have to shiver in my car in the morning when I get into it. Plus, if it snows a lot in your area, its helpful i've heard.
 

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I don't know what the $45.00 unit can do, but the $99.00 Valet 551t can start the car and run it for 12, 24 or 60 minutes. It can do this every 3 hours for up to 6 cycles. It also is able to lock all your doors automatically (if you have electric door locks) after you put it in gear. If the car is running after you've remote started it, and somebody jumps in to steal it, the car dies when they put it in gear. If you're under the hood working on the engine, the remote start is disabled. The 551t also comes with 2 remotes. The reciever is very customizable as far as default options you want to enable. Quite a deal if you ask me!
 

edprush

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Ornery- but it seems (from your link) that the Best Buy installation was a freakin' nightmare!

I don't have time for Best Buy to give me the runaround. I just want a remote starter...
 

Ornery

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Turns out it wasn't their fault. Replaced a part for the idle bypass and all was well. Still working fine to this day. Bottom line is if they mess up, they fix it. If you mess up... yikes! They had a devil of a time finding one wire that needed to be tied into. I have no idea how I would have found it. Their book didn't cover my conversion van. Hah! That's their problem!

From what I gather, once you locate all the wires to patch into, it's easy enough. It's quite a knuckle scraper under the dash of our van. Depends what your time and effort are worth I guess...
 

PCAddict

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I have a remote starter still sitting in the box. Someone got it for me as a gift. I thought about installing it myself, but it is a major pain in the ass. My truck is fully loaded with all of the power/electronic crap. Local places said $75.00 to install it. I'm going to get it done soon.
 

ATLien247

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Anyone who has seen the movie "Ghost Dog" knows you guys are asking for a heap o' trouble... ;)
 

Soybomb

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Well, it was for me because its DAMN hard to get under the dash and solder wires up.
 

edprush

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Hello. I posted the original message.

Here is the answer: It is very hard to install! Soldering, drilling through the firewall, ... yikes.
 

edprush

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I purchased a $79 model that was on sale for $59.

I gave up after seeing that drilling through the firewall was involved.

The reason that I purchased it was to help improve mileage during the winter months (I have a real gas guzzler).

I figured that if I could easily start the car on cold days and let it run it may help improve my mileage. I think I have a tendency to not let the car warm up as long if I am sitting in it while it's warming up.

Anyway, I may try to install some type of engine block heater so that the car will start and warm up quicker on the cold mornings.

Has anyone installed an engine block heater?

Thanks again.
 

Mark R

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What, if like all recent cars, the engine has key-transponder immobilization?

Do you have to leave a key taped to the ignition lock so that the ECU can sense it?
 

Ornery

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Damn edprush, that's an odd reason to get the remote start. It is the nicest thing to have in the winter though. I'll be putting one in every car I get from now on, I'm so spoiled by it! That engine heater is nothing to speak of. Just replaces your dipstick I believe. BTW, getting through the firewall isn't that hard. Just squeeze through the same hole your speedometer cable runs through. If not there, find another grommet to pass a small wire through. There's got to be at least a couple. It's definitely a tedious job, but running that particular wire isn't that much more trouble.

Mark R there's a real good chance you could get the remote start to work, even with that key. Your car gets jump wired by the remote start. They'll just work with the wires beyond the key switch etc. And since you'll be having somebody else install it (highly recommended), they can tell you for sure. Anybody that's read this far, BUY THIS ACCESSORY, YOU'LL LOVE IT!
 

Mark R

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Ah. I found the answer to my question about the transponder key, and I thought I'd share it.

Basically, because the engine-management computer will refuse to boot unless it detects the key - you must have a key for it to sense. You can't just bypass it, as the computer controls the fuel injection and ignition (both rather important components of the engine).

What is done, is to disconnect the antenna connection to the ignition switch and to connect it to a wire wrapped around a key. This key is then concealed under the dash. This allows the computer to detect a key and boot when powered-up by the remote starter. For security, once the installation is completed, the key is cut, leaving only the transponder-containing fob.

Some more sophisticated remote starter systems have a switch which fits in the antenna circuit - when the car is started with a key, the antenna in the ignition lock is enabled - and only when remote starting is the concealed transponder connected.

On some high security cars, e.g. Lexus, you can't even do this - the whole antenna system is completely enclosed, and the area around the steering column shielded, so that it is not even possible to attach a key to the steering column and have the transponder work.

In this case you have to use a rather less elegant solution. You need to get a locksmith to take a blank transponder key, and to program the transponder (as normal) but not actually cut the key. The result is a key that fits in the ignition lock, and has a functional transponder, but which will not turn. When you leave the vehicle you leave this key in the ignition, so that the remote start can operate, and when you want to drive, you just replace it with the real key, so that you can turn the ignition.