Has anyone ever applied for partial unemployment?

tec699

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I thought that it would be a good idea to apply for partial unemployment while I finish my last semester. I'm working weekends now but I'm only getting about 18 hrs. per week. This is all that I can work because of my commitements with student teaching.

We'll anyway, I'm filling out the unemployment form online and I need to put down the name of my last employer from the past 18 months. I've been with this security company for the past 3 years while attending college. So do I...

1) Put down the current company that I'm still employed with?

2) The unemployment office is asking when I left the company. I haven't left yet. I'm still with the company. I'm only asking for partial unemployment.

Those questions need a mandatory response. Should I just respond to them anyway? I don't want my current boss to get a phone call asking about my end date with the company. I don't want to p*ss him off I guess.

thanks.
 

shilala

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In PA you can't get unemployment if you're going to school.
You have to be available for work. If you're in school, you're not available.
 

tec699

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Originally posted by: shilala
In PA you can't get unemployment if you're going to school.
You have to be available for work. If you're in school, you're not available.

really? that stinks.

 

shilala

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Originally posted by: tec699
Originally posted by: shilala
In PA you can't get unemployment if you're going to school.
You have to be available for work. If you're in school, you're not available.

really? that stinks.

Yeah.
If you got cut back because of school, you wouldn't be able to draw benefits.
If you got cut back then decided to go to school, and the employer can't lie and say contrary, you may be able to get unemployment.
An employers UC benefit cost doubles if he has any workers on unemployment compensation, and it's a big deal for some employers.

Mind ya now, these are PA rules. I have no idea what the Jersey law is.

How'd your hours get cut back? That's the big deal here.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: tec699
Originally posted by: shilala
In PA you can't get unemployment if you're going to school.
You have to be available for work. If you're in school, you're not available.

really? that stinks.

WTF???

Don't suck of the government tit if you haven't contributed.
 

tami

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what is partial unemployment?

i know that you can be eligible for unemployment while also at school, according to new york state law. you just have to go through another process to make sure that they are aware that you are trying to earn your degree to make yourself more marketable for the future.

but i don't get how this "partial unemployment" thing works. i don't think you can take advantage of such a program unless you were laid off after 6 months of fulltime employment. maybe that's just NY though.
 

ElTorrente

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Nut up and work like other people do.

I hate seeing people use school as an excuse for not working full-time. You can do it if you really wanted to- just like millions of other responsible people did before you.

Get off the OT forums and get a friggin job you lame ass.
 

tami

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: tec699
Originally posted by: shilala
In PA you can't get unemployment if you're going to school.
You have to be available for work. If you're in school, you're not available.

really? that stinks.

WTF???

Don't suck of the government tit if you haven't contributed.

yeah, i must say i agree with this. from what i'm reading, any student who is working part time is "partially unemployed." you need to have solid proof that you're filing for insurance and that your past employer has actually paid for it (as required by federal law, i believe). you also had to have been laid off. if you quit your job, you're not eligible for unemployment benefits.

 

DaveSimmons

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You're already attending a university subsidized with both state and federal tax dollars, even before you receive any financial aid.

How much taxpayer-funded support do you need?

This is all that I can work because of my commitements with student teaching.
Then asking for unemployment would be fraud.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: tami
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: tec699
Originally posted by: shilala
In PA you can't get unemployment if you're going to school.
You have to be available for work. If you're in school, you're not available.

really? that stinks.

WTF???

Don't suck of the government tit if you haven't contributed.

yeah, i must say i agree with this. from what i'm reading, any student who is working part time is "partially unemployed." you need to have solid proof that you're filing for insurance and that your past employer has actually paid for it (as required by federal law, i believe). you also had to have been laid off. if you quit your job, you're not eligible for unemployment benefits.

Yeah, something about "I have a job and am filing for unemployment benefits" really, really, really rubs me the wrong way.




 

Carbo

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Originally posted by: ElTorrente
Nut up and work like other people do.

I hate seeing people use school as an excuse for not working full-time. You can do it if you really wanted to- just like millions of other responsible people did before you.

Get off the OT forums and get a friggin job you lame ass.
That's a bit harsh. Hell, FEMA can't give away money fast enough. No reason one more shouldn't get on the Gravy Train.

 

fishface313

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partial unemployment benefits??? you might as well get full-on welfare, just another leech on the government's body!!! my sister's husband's sister used to be on welfare, she is a scumbag, anyone who leeches off of the government is pretty scumbagish (except for certain types of school loans/grants, they are considered a form of welfare, but with the prices of college these days, you have to be a millionaire to afford it without any help) and needs to get off their lazy fat white/black trash asses and get a job.
 

ElTorrente

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Originally posted by: Carbo
Originally posted by: ElTorrente
Nut up and work like other people do.

I hate seeing people use school as an excuse for not working full-time. You can do it if you really wanted to- just like millions of other responsible people did before you.

Get off the OT forums and get a friggin job you lame ass.
That's a bit harsh. Hell, FEMA can't give away money fast enough. No reason one more shouldn't get on the Gravy Train.


Are you kidding?!?!

That is ridiculous.

This guy is a lazy bum who wants a free ride provided by people like me who actually work for a living.
 

FoBoT

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i gotta try to get that

there are 168 hours per week and i only work 50-70 per week, so i ought to get partial unemployment for the other 100-120 hours per week

i'll be RICH!!!
 

Evadman

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
i gotta try to get that

there are 168 hours per week and i only work 50-70 per week, so i ought to get partial unemployment for the other 100-120 hours per week

i'll be RICH!!!

Let me know how that goes. I am in the same boat.

 

tec699

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I'm hardly a bum.

Throughout my 4 years of college I worked between 40-45 hours per week. I work midnight security to be exact. That means my hours are from 12-8am. I would then go to classes sometimes directly from work. Hell, this summer I worked 2 jobs and my hours per week were between 88-92 hours.

I was thinking about applying for partial unemployment because I'm only working on weekends. Why am I only working weekends? It's because I'm a special education major who is student teaching. I have to be at the elementary school between 8-3:30pm 5 days a week. But my day doesn't end there. I'm at the school everyday for an additional 3.5 hours. That means I get there at 8am and I don't leave on most nights until 7pm. I'm either putting together my lesson plans, running off forms, grading papers, etc... It's a lot of work. Student teaching is a fulltime job but I don't get paid. It most definitely stinks, but there isn't much I can do about it.
 

shilala

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Partial unemployment is actually called "a partial benefit".
It works like this...
Once you open a claim, you get a "financial determination".
That paper tells you if you are eligible for benefits. It also tells you what the weekly benefit rate will be based on the high quarter in your base year.
Your base year is determined by skipping the quarter you are currently in, then the quarter before that, then taking the previous four quarters.
Your benefit will be based on the highest earnings from one of those quarters.

Here's the snag...
You also have to have made x amount of dollars in your base year to support that quarter.
If you made nearly nothing in three quarters and had a huge quarter, odds are you won't be eligible for unemployment.
Your high quarter has to be in ratio with your base year earning as dictated by a stupid little chart they have.
Admittedly, I'm not very versed on the stupid little chart because it's like the Unemployment Holy Grail and can't be laid eyes upon by non-UC Official turds.

Back to the "Partial Benefit"...
Once you've passed the test and got your letter, it will also tell you how much you can make in a week before you can no longer receive a benefit for that week.
It's backwards from what you'd expect.
If it says you can earn $250, then if you earn $251 you are no longer entitled to any benefit.
If you work one day, you'll likely get a full benefit for the week. After that, your benefit decreases rapidly until you reach the $250 mark.

Tec699, odds are that even if you qualify for benefit, 18 hours will be too much for you to get a check.
Once again, it all depends on the numbers, how much your biweekly benefit is, how much your partial benefit is, etc.
The best thing to do is sign up.
If you don't have all the info, leave it blank or screw it up, it doesn't matter. If you make a mistake the Unemployment Office will call you.

Last but not least...
Hey Eltorrente, why don't you go back and hang out at the Bigmouth Retarded Asshole Forum where you came from before they roll off your login info?
 

tami

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Originally posted by: tec699
I'm hardly a bum.

Throughout my 4 years of college I worked between 40-45 hours per week. I work midnight security to be exact. That means my hours are from 12-8am. I would then go to classes sometimes directly from work. Hell, this summer I worked 2 jobs and my hours per week were between 88-92 hours.

I was thinking about applying for partial unemployment because I'm only working on weekends. Why am I only working weekends? It's because I'm a special education major who is student teaching. I have to be at the elementary school between 8-3:30pm 5 days a week. But my day doesn't end there. I'm at the school everyday for an additional 3.5 hours. That means I get there at 8am and I don't leave on most nights until 7pm. I'm either putting together my lesson plans, running off forms, grading papers, etc... It's a lot of work. Student teaching is a fulltime job but I don't get paid. It most definitely stinks, but there isn't much I can do about it.

it may make you miserable since you're going from working 40-45 hours per week (paid) to 18 hours per week (paid), but you have to deal with it like the rest of the people in the world who work and then go back to school for whatever degree. otherwise, you ARE committing fraud, whether you think it is or not.
 

ElTorrente

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Originally posted by: tec699
I'm hardly a bum.

Throughout my 4 years of college I worked between 40-45 hours per week. I work midnight security to be exact. That means my hours are from 12-8am. I would then go to classes sometimes directly from work. Hell, this summer I worked 2 jobs and my hours per week were between 88-92 hours.

I was thinking about applying for partial unemployment because I'm only working on weekends. Why am I only working weekends? It's because I'm a special education major who is student teaching. I have to be at the elementary school between 8-3:30pm 5 days a week. But my day doesn't end there. I'm at the school everyday for an additional 3.5 hours. That means I get there at 8am and I don't leave on most nights until 7pm. I'm either putting together my lesson plans, running off forms, grading papers, etc... It's a lot of work. Student teaching is a fulltime job but I don't get paid. It most definitely stinks, but there isn't much I can do about it.


Yeah - life's a bitch. It's tough out there, huh?

Doesn't mean you should be allowed to free-load and get money because you are too busy to work. :D that is just silly.

OMG shilala, they are gonna "roll off my login info?" OMG whatever will I do. I'll never be able to achieve such a high post count while I collect unemployment. You're such an expert on the ins-and-outs of freeloading from the government, it's no wonder you get upset at those of us who frown upon using the system for free money because they are just too busy to work. :roll: Give me a break..
 

shilala

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Originally posted by: tami
Originally posted by: tec699
I'm hardly a bum.

Throughout my 4 years of college I worked between 40-45 hours per week. I work midnight security to be exact. That means my hours are from 12-8am. I would then go to classes sometimes directly from work. Hell, this summer I worked 2 jobs and my hours per week were between 88-92 hours.

I was thinking about applying for partial unemployment because I'm only working on weekends. Why am I only working weekends? It's because I'm a special education major who is student teaching. I have to be at the elementary school between 8-3:30pm 5 days a week. But my day doesn't end there. I'm at the school everyday for an additional 3.5 hours. That means I get there at 8am and I don't leave on most nights until 7pm. I'm either putting together my lesson plans, running off forms, grading papers, etc... It's a lot of work. Student teaching is a fulltime job but I don't get paid. It most definitely stinks, but there isn't much I can do about it.

it may make you miserable since you're going from working 40-45 hours per week (paid) to 18 hours per week (paid), but you have to deal with it like the rest of the people in the world who work and then go back to school for whatever degree. otherwise, you ARE committing fraud, whether you think it is or not.

I'm not so sure about that, Tami.
I know the Unemployment Office asks about being a student.
I only assumed that they ask because you have to be available to work to receive benefits.
The student thing may be the exception to the rule.
It'd stand to reason.
 

shilala

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Originally posted by: ElTorrente
Originally posted by: tec699
I'm hardly a bum.

Throughout my 4 years of college I worked between 40-45 hours per week. I work midnight security to be exact. That means my hours are from 12-8am. I would then go to classes sometimes directly from work. Hell, this summer I worked 2 jobs and my hours per week were between 88-92 hours.

I was thinking about applying for partial unemployment because I'm only working on weekends. Why am I only working weekends? It's because I'm a special education major who is student teaching. I have to be at the elementary school between 8-3:30pm 5 days a week. But my day doesn't end there. I'm at the school everyday for an additional 3.5 hours. That means I get there at 8am and I don't leave on most nights until 7pm. I'm either putting together my lesson plans, running off forms, grading papers, etc... It's a lot of work. Student teaching is a fulltime job but I don't get paid. It most definitely stinks, but there isn't much I can do about it.


Yeah - life's a bitch. It's tough out there, huh?

Doesn't mean you should be allowed to free-load and get money because you are too busy to work. :D that is just silly.

OMG shilala, they are gonna "roll off my login info?" OMG whatever will I do. I'll never be able to achieve such a high post count while I collect unemployment. You're such an expert on the ins-and-outs of freeloading from the government, it's no wonder you get upset at those of us who frown upon using the system for free money because they are just too busy to work. :roll: Give me a break..

Wow, you're amazing.
How is it that you know all about tec699 and me? Omnipotence? God? The voices?
Try this for a second...
STFU when you have no idea what you're talking about.
It'll help ensure that you don't make obvious your penchant for being a total asshole.
 

ElTorrente

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Originally posted by: shilala
Wow, you're amazing.
How is it that you know all about tec699 and me? Omnipotence? God? The voices?
Try this for a second...
STFU when you have no idea what you're talking about.
It'll help ensure that you don't make obvious your penchant for being a total asshole.

Sorry- I keep forgetting that your opinion is the only one that matters. :roll:

Thanks though- I AM amazing.
 

tami

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Originally posted by: shilala
Originally posted by: tami
Originally posted by: tec699
I'm hardly a bum.

Throughout my 4 years of college I worked between 40-45 hours per week. I work midnight security to be exact. That means my hours are from 12-8am. I would then go to classes sometimes directly from work. Hell, this summer I worked 2 jobs and my hours per week were between 88-92 hours.

I was thinking about applying for partial unemployment because I'm only working on weekends. Why am I only working weekends? It's because I'm a special education major who is student teaching. I have to be at the elementary school between 8-3:30pm 5 days a week. But my day doesn't end there. I'm at the school everyday for an additional 3.5 hours. That means I get there at 8am and I don't leave on most nights until 7pm. I'm either putting together my lesson plans, running off forms, grading papers, etc... It's a lot of work. Student teaching is a fulltime job but I don't get paid. It most definitely stinks, but there isn't much I can do about it.

it may make you miserable since you're going from working 40-45 hours per week (paid) to 18 hours per week (paid), but you have to deal with it like the rest of the people in the world who work and then go back to school for whatever degree. otherwise, you ARE committing fraud, whether you think it is or not.

I'm not so sure about that, Tami.
I know the Unemployment Office asks about being a student.
I only assumed that they ask because you have to be available to work to receive benefits.
The student thing may be the exception to the rule.
It'd stand to reason.

the unemployment office asks about being a student because if you got laid off and opted to go to school, you would be exempt from being available for work since you are trying to brush up on your skills. that's how it works in new york, anyway.

if you're just busier one semester because you have other responsibilities that are required of your degree, filing for partial unemployment would constitute fraud.