Has anyone ever applied for partial unemployment?

[ElTorrente]

Originally posted by: tami
the unemployment office asks about being a student because if you got laid off and opted to go to school, you would be exempt from being available for work since you are trying to brush up on your skills. that's how it works in new york, anyway.

if you're just busier one semester because you have other responsibilities that are required of your degree, filing for partial unemployment would constitute fraud.

This sounds logical, and I can't believe people are disagreeing with this concept. Every student in the country would be collecting unemployment then. I can just see it now- millions of kids lined up at the unemployment office saying they are just too busy to work, so "show me the money!".

 

[shilala]

Originally posted by: tami

Originally posted by: shilala

Originally posted by: tami

Originally posted by: tec699
I'm hardly a bum.

Throughout my 4 years of college I worked between 40-45 hours per week. I work midnight security to be exact. That means my hours are from 12-8am. I would then go to classes sometimes directly from work. Hell, this summer I worked 2 jobs and my hours per week were between 88-92 hours.

I was thinking about applying for partial unemployment because I'm only working on weekends. Why am I only working weekends? It's because I'm a special education major who is student teaching. I have to be at the elementary school between 8-3:30pm 5 days a week. But my day doesn't end there. I'm at the school everyday for an additional 3.5 hours. That means I get there at 8am and I don't leave on most nights until 7pm. I'm either putting together my lesson plans, running off forms, grading papers, etc... It's a lot of work. Student teaching is a fulltime job but I don't get paid. It most definitely stinks, but there isn't much I can do about it.

it may make you miserable since you're going from working 40-45 hours per week (paid) to 18 hours per week (paid), but you have to deal with it like the rest of the people in the world who work and then go back to school for whatever degree. otherwise, you ARE committing fraud, whether you think it is or not.

I'm not so sure about that, Tami.
I know the Unemployment Office asks about being a student.
I only assumed that they ask because you have to be available to work to receive benefits.
The student thing may be the exception to the rule.
It'd stand to reason.

the unemployment office asks about being a student because if you got laid off and opted to go to school, you would be exempt from being available for work since you are trying to brush up on your skills. that's how it works in new york, anyway.

if you're just busier one semester because you have other responsibilities that are required of your degree, filing for partial unemployment would constitute fraud.

Thanks Tami, that's cool. I didn't know about that.
Earlier I thought you meant it was fraud if you were going to school and collecting unemployment.
I thought the student thing may be the exception, I had wondered in the past why they asked. It never occurred it may be a loophole until this thread, I always just assumed the "available to work" rule would kick in and they'd tell the applicant to go home.

 

[anno]

Originally posted by: shilala
Partial unemployment is actually called "a partial benefit".
It works like this...
Once you open a claim, you get a "financial determination".
That paper tells you if you are eligible for benefits. It also tells you what the weekly benefit rate will be based on the high quarter in your base year.
Your base year is determined by skipping the quarter you are currently in, then the quarter before that, then taking the previous four quarters.
Your benefit will be based on the highest earnings from one of those quarters.

Here's the snag...
You also have to have made x amount of dollars in your base year to support that quarter.
If you made nearly nothing in three quarters and had a huge quarter, odds are you won't be eligible for unemployment.
Your high quarter has to be in ratio with your base year earning as dictated by a stupid little chart they have.
Admittedly, I'm not very versed on the stupid little chart because it's like the Unemployment Holy Grail and can't be laid eyes upon by non-UC Official turds.

Back to the "Partial Benefit"...
Once you've passed the test and got your letter, it will also tell you how much you can make in a week before you can no longer receive a benefit for that week.
It's backwards from what you'd expect.
If it says you can earn $250, then if you earn $251 you are no longer entitled to any benefit.
If you work one day, you'll likely get a full benefit for the week. After that, your benefit decreases rapidly until you reach the $250 mark.

Tec699, odds are that even if you qualify for benefit, 18 hours will be too much for you to get a check.
Once again, it all depends on the numbers, how much your biweekly benefit is, how much your partial benefit is, etc.
The best thing to do is sign up.
If you don't have all the info, leave it blank or screw it up, it doesn't matter. If you make a mistake the Unemployment Office will call you.

Last but not least...
Hey Eltorrente, why don't you go back and hang out at the Bigmouth Retarded Asshole Forum where you came from before they roll off your login info?

that was a very good explaination. some of that stuff varies a bit depending on the state you were in but that's a pretty good general picture except..

the cause of the partial unemployment also has to be through no fault of your own. if you're working full time and your employer cuts your hours back, and the amount you earn in those reduced hours is less than your weekly benefit amount plus whatever the maximum earnings without affect are (not much, but that also varies by state) then you should be eligible to collect a partial benefit.. however, that situation would probably not excuse you from the looking for work requirement.

the one rule that is almost constant from state to state (the exception is the few states that cover disability through their unemployment insurance system) is that you have to be ready, willing, and able to accept full time employment each and every day for which you claim benefits.

so in the case of the OP, his partial employment situation is voluntary, so wouldn't be eligible in the first place, and even if it was, his availability to accept full time work doesn't exist, so he still wouldn't be eligible.

anno