Has anyone else noticed CDs are cheaper?

[slikmunks]

Originally posted by: dahotboykj

Originally posted by: gopunk
or maybe they're not... i dunno my only gauge is that i've been seeing more and more posts in ATHD about 6-7.99 cds from decently known bands. just curious if anyone else has noticed this... is this because of that ruling that said the record labels were guilty of collusion...?

I was noticing this too in my various travels around different message boards...hell, it almost made me wanna buy cds again...but then, i always think...

FVCK THE RIAA!!

...and i don't.


The last cds i bought worked out to about $.10 each for all 100 of em

that's what i'm talkin' about!

 

[kleinesarschloch]

All this RIAA crap is simply a means of justifying thievery. It's easier to steal than it is to buy.

if i have a choice between stealing and being stolen from, guess which way i'm going to go?

 

[schdaddy]

Last CD I purchased was $6.99 at CC

also bought "the Vines" for $6.99 when it came out - with prices at $10 and below I'm going to start buying 1-3 CDs a month again
however, these low prices won't prevent me from downloading MP3s until a better way of discovering new music comes out

 

[ScottyB]

Originally posted by: kleinesarschloch

All this RIAA crap is simply a means of justifying thievery. It's easier to steal than it is to buy.

if i have a choice between stealing and being stolen from, guess which way i'm going to go?

How exactly are you being stolen from?

 

[kleinesarschloch]

Originally posted by: ScottyB

Originally posted by: kleinesarschloch

All this RIAA crap is simply a means of justifying thievery. It's easier to steal than it is to buy.

if i have a choice between stealing and being stolen from, guess which way i'm going to go?

How exactly are you being stolen from?

price fixing and gouging beyond reasonable cost of manufacturing and profit margin. the RIAA admitted themselves that they were fixing prices for years. lucky for them, they were able to settle out of court for chump change.

 

[ScottyB]

Okay but that still doesn't explain how you are being stolen from. Unless they are taking something of yours without giving you something in return you aren't being stolen from. You are a thief and you know it.

 

[kleinesarschloch]

Originally posted by: ScottyB
Okay but that still doesn't explain how you are being stolen from. Unless they are taking something of yours without giving you something in return you aren't being stolen from. You are a thief and you know it.

ha ha... guilty as charged. i like to think of myself as a robin hood type of thief though.

 

[jaeger66]

Originally posted by: kleinesarschloch


ha ha... guilty as charged. i like to think of myself as a robin hood type of thief though.

Robin Hood stole things to give to poor people who needed them. You steal non essential products because you're lazy, cheap, and worthless.

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: jaeger66

Originally posted by: kleinesarschloch


ha ha... guilty as charged. i like to think of myself as a robin hood type of thief though.

Robin Hood stole things to give to poor people who needed them. You steal non essential products because you're lazy, cheap, and worthless.

i don't see how you can back up the "worthless" statement.

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: jaeger66

Originally posted by: dparker


Which would be what?

Something that wasn't bestowed popularity by MTV and thus needs not put out quality to survive. Not to say that any band who makes a video is crap, lots of great bands have made great videos. But these days...I don't know.

while i'm no expert, i would wager that the vast vast vast majority of piracy occurs with "non-REAL" music.

 

[eplebnista]

Has anyone else noticed CDs are cheaper?

No.

 

[Spyro]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: jaeger66

Originally posted by: dparker


Which would be what?

Something that wasn't bestowed popularity by MTV and thus needs not put out quality to survive. Not to say that any band who makes a video is crap, lots of great bands have made great videos. But these days...I don't know.

while i'm no expert, i would wager that the vast vast vast majority of piracy occurs with "non-REAL" music.

I'd back ya up on that wager. As for CDs being cheaper: Bwahahhahahaha whats that?

 

[SSP]

Maybe its only in the US because the HMV in downtown still had sh!tty prices. Especially DVD's.

 

[Spyro]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: jaeger66

Originally posted by: kleinesarschloch


ha ha... guilty as charged. i like to think of myself as a robin hood type of thief though.

Robin Hood stole things to give to poor people who needed them. You steal non essential products because you're lazy, cheap, and worthless.

i don't see how you can back up the "worthless" statement.

Probably doesn't need to since he/she/it most likely works for the RIAA.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: jaeger66

Originally posted by: dparker


Which would be what?

Something that wasn't bestowed popularity by MTV and thus needs not put out quality to survive. Not to say that any band who makes a video is crap, lots of great bands have made great videos. But these days...I don't know.

while i'm no expert, i would wager that the vast vast vast majority of piracy occurs with "non-REAL" music.

I can't recall a single thing that I've downloaded that would be played on MTV or the radio (with the exception of a few good stations). The only way I learn about these bands is through P2P. I buy plenty of CD's, but only after checking out the band and hearing what they sound like. Case in point, whenever you turn on the radio or MTV do you hear Sunny Day Real Estate? I don't, and so the chance of me buying it is 0. Someone told me about them, so I was curious, but there is no way in hell I will buy a CD without hearing it first, and the only way to do that is through P2P. Anyways, I went the other day and picked up a copy of "Diary," so I bought it in the end.

 

[jaeger66]

Originally posted by: wizardLRU


Probably doesn't need to since he/she/it most likely works for the RIAA.

Uh oh, you got me. Brilliant deduction, Einstein.

 

[jaeger66]

Originally posted by: gopunk


i don't see how you can back up the "worthless" statement.

The conclusion is self-evident; I don't need to back it up. Nobody needs music to survive, yet thieves concoct all sort of ways to sidstep the real truth-they just don't feel like paying for it. That excuse doesn't work for car thieves, a concept that seems to elude most of the logically challenged music thieves.

 

[kleinesarschloch]

Originally posted by: jaeger66

Originally posted by: gopunk


i don't see how you can back up the "worthless" statement.

The conclusion is self-evident; I don't need to back it up. Nobody needs music to survive, yet thieves concoct all sort of ways to sidstep the real truth-they just don't feel like paying for it. That excuse doesn't work for car thieves, a concept that seems to elude most of the logically challenged music thieves.

i never made a big secret about it: i want the music, yet i really don't want to pay the current prices. there are too many people getting rich in the process, and most of the time it's not even the artist. i do support the artists and labels that i feel deserve it.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Originally posted by: jaeger66

Originally posted by: gopunk


i don't see how you can back up the "worthless" statement.

The conclusion is self-evident; I don't need to back it up. Nobody needs music to survive, yet thieves concoct all sort of ways to sidstep the real truth-they just don't feel like paying for it. That excuse doesn't work for car thieves, a concept that seems to elude most of the logically challenged music thieves.

Read my above statement. I am sure there are many people in the situation that I am in. I for one cannot afford to go spend $12 every time I am curious about an artist, and the only way for me to hear most of them is to download their music? When was the last time you heard Mogwai played on the radio or MTV? I was curious one day because I had no idea who they were, and so I downloaded a few of their songs. Now I own almost every albulm of theirs, and am about to buy the last one. I think the only ones it hurts are the millionaire MTV "artist". For most other people it is one of the only ways for them to be heard.

 

[Spyro]

Originally posted by: jaeger66

Originally posted by: wizardLRU


Probably doesn't need to since he/she/it most likely works for the RIAA.

Uh oh, you got me. Brilliant deduction, Einstein.

Yes I know, I'm simply brilliant.

 

[SherEPunjab]

Did you guys see that 20/20 last night?

Very interesting. One thing I wondered was WHY are concert ticket prices so outrageous now.

it explained it. People are not buying cd's anymore, so artists are charging you an arm and a leg to see them perform live now. may seem obvious to some, but i never realized it.

 

[spidey07]

Very interesting. One thing I wondered was WHY are concert ticket prices so outrageous now.

True, because CD sales are on the decrease.

Simple supply and demand - if folks will pay the price then it will sell (or sell out) as discussed in the 20/20 episode. what is even more troubling is people actually think mp3s sound good.

-edit- To keep on topic I am very happy in the recent decrease in CD prices.

 

[SherEPunjab]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Very interesting. One thing I wondered was WHY are concert ticket prices so outrageous now.

True, because CD sales are on the decrease.

Simple supply and demand - if folks will pay the price then it will sell (or sell out) as discussed in the 20/20 episode. what is even more troubling is people actually think mp3s sound good.

-edit- To keep on topic I am very happy in the recent decrease in CD prices.

Spidey, CD's are 128kbps i believe, how can an .mp3 that is say, 256kbps NOT sound good?

 

[spidey07]

Redo your math.

44100 * 16 bit samples = 705600. Times 2 channels = 1411200 bits/sec = 1.4 Kbit.

<---before anybody starts ranting about some website they read I've been a musician for 20 years and an audiophile for 15.

-edit- whoops, 1411 Kbs or 1.4 Mbs.

 

[jaeger66]

Originally posted by: SherEPunjab

Spidey, CD's are 128kbps i believe, how can an .mp3 that is say, 256kbps NOT sound good?

I hate the sound of MP3s. If you've ever heard a high end audio system, you'd know exactly what MP3s perceptual coding is chopping off.
They are, however, fabulosly convenient for portables, where fidelity is not the primary concern.