R Nilla
Diamond Member
You already can buy Rock Band a la carte. Of course, the instruments can't be purchased separately until next year...
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Harmonix: Activision Blocked Rock Band PS3 Guitar Compatibility Patch #1
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You already can buy Rock Band a la carte. Of course, the instruments can't be purchased separately until next year...
RagingBITCH
Lifer
Oh no it's agreed the Wii is more than just price. But if price was equal, it'd get slaughtered. I've played it and think it's fun, just not my cup of tea.
In regards to buying one rhythm game - every person I know whose a GH fan thinks RB is cool as hell, but is ansy about dropping $190 after tax on a game and a bunch of controllers. $100 is reasonable, but unless you just have an enormous amount of cash to blow, it's hard for my buddies to say "oh without a fvcking doubt I gotta have it, I don't care how much it costs for RB". From a consumer's perspective, price does play a difference, especially when Jill Mom goes into BB and sees GH3 at $99 vs RB at $169. From an actual gamer's POV who buys it themselves, you're right. But the casual gamer or the person who buys it as a gift is going to be price conscious.
I'm not sure where you got that, but that's definitely NOT what I'm saying. I'm saying that PS3 owners who DO own Rock Band will most likely want a 2nd guitar. The most logical way for those people to get a 2nd guitar would be to buy a GH game that has a guitar included. Activision is losing a sale to these people.
Yes, I agree. But making the GH3 guitar more compatible has nothing to do with this. People who can only afford one will only afford one, regardless if it's Rock Band or GH3. If people choose to only buy Rock Band, what does it matter what the GH3 guitar can do? If people only buy GH3, what does it matter if the GH3 can't play any other games?
Activision would be encouraging the owners of a competitor's product (Rock Band) to buy more of their own (GH3) by making their GH3 compatible with it.
A gift? There's no reason for average Joe Customer to think that the guitars WON'T work together. This is such a mind-numbing PR move by Activision that my money is on them changing their mind, if not before Christmas, then right after Christmas morning when little Johnny tells his parents that the $170+$90 fake, plastic guitars they just bought him won't play nice with each other so him and his brother are going to fight about who plays when. 😛
I actually can't believe Sony and MS didn't make controller standards so that these companies can't gouge us.
I do aplaud Harmonix though. THey said they will work with any developer and 3rd party controller manufacturers to help them make compatible controllers, or to make the RB periphs work with their game.
I do aplaud Harmonix though. THey said they will work with any developer and 3rd party controller manufacturers to help them make compatible controllers, or to make the RB periphs work with their game.
They do have controller standards - the lack of compatibility is within the software, not the hardware.
Here is my (almost) completely baseless argument:
The majority of those who currently own Rock Band already own a Guitar Hero game. The fact that GH3 was released a month earlier than RB is a huge reason for this. That, and the fact that GH2 has already sold millions.
The PS3 is the weakest market for the Guitar Hero franchise - look at the sales numbers.
Your argument is essentially new customers who are buying Rock Band first are more inclined to also buy Guitar Hero for the extra guitar since no other guitars are available.
My argument is those looking to buy Rock Band are those who are consciously going out looking for it - and those who already own Guitar Hero. Having the guitars work with Rock Band is more motivation to buy Rock Band than to buy Guitar Hero (since as I've said, the majority of customers already own it).
And now that both are out - since Guitar Hero has the cheaper entrance cost - they are in a position to push their own sales further without encouraging growth of a superior competitor.
R Nilla
Diamond Member
Maybe I'm misusing "a la carte", but you can buy just the game, without having to buy the $190 bundle. I would consider that "a la carte" with regards to the bundle, since the game is a part of the bundle. It can be purchased right now. As you've said, the instruments cannot be purchased separately until next year, but the game can.
MikeyLSU
Platinum Member
I have a PS3 and got screwed by this... I have both games and was hoping for the patch so I could have a bass guitar on Rockband and hopefully an extra guitar for GH3 someday.
I hvae every GH made so far, but unless Activision changes, I won't buy another one. They messed up big time with PS3. First they make a crappy port that has lag problems for everything, now they stop RB from having compatibility with their guitar.
I'm not buying another GH unless they change their minds and allow RB to use their guitars.
I hvae every GH made so far, but unless Activision changes, I won't buy another one. They messed up big time with PS3. First they make a crappy port that has lag problems for everything, now they stop RB from having compatibility with their guitar.
I'm not buying another GH unless they change their minds and allow RB to use their guitars.
"They do have controller standards - the lack of compatibility is within the software, not the hardware."
Right, but obviously what i'm saying is that as part of the standards, they need to make it so that all of these controllers will work. That is all these controllers are...a controller in the shape of a guitar. Sony and MS(maybe MS already does this) need to make it mandatory that controller peripherals work cross game.
Right, but obviously what i'm saying is that as part of the standards, they need to make it so that all of these controllers will work. That is all these controllers are...a controller in the shape of a guitar. Sony and MS(maybe MS already does this) need to make it mandatory that controller peripherals work cross game.
R Nilla
Diamond Member
I'm not going anywhere, just pointing out that the game itself is currently available a la carte. I think you're trying to read too much into my post. 🙂
And actually this is relevant to your topic since if GH guitars would work you could just buy the standalone game if you only wanted to play the guitar (and bass) parts for now. Do other mics work or do you have to use Rock Band's?
After reading this Text article I have to say I am a little pissed off at Activision. In my opinion this is a bad move on Activision?s part. I have sent an email to the following people at Activision. If anyone else shares my feeling about these issues please send an email to the following people and hopefully we can get this patch released.
Robert Kotick, Chairman of the board and CEO bkotick@activision.com
Brian Kelly, Co Chairman and Director bkelly@activision.com
Ronald Doornick, Director and Senior advisor rdoornink@activision.com
Michael Griffith, President and CEO mgriffith@activision.com
Thomas Tippl, CFO ttippl@activision.com
George Rose, Chief Legal Officer and Secretary grose@activision.com
Robin Kaminsky, Executive Vise President Publishing rkaminsky@activision.com
Brian Hodous, Chief Customer Officer bhodous@activision.com
Ann Weiser Chief Human resources Officer aweiser@activision.com
Yes basically I just sent am email to everyone on their Executive Team list. I tried support first but just got a canned response saying they had no information on a PS3 patch.
Robert Kotick, Chairman of the board and CEO bkotick@activision.com
Brian Kelly, Co Chairman and Director bkelly@activision.com
Ronald Doornick, Director and Senior advisor rdoornink@activision.com
Michael Griffith, President and CEO mgriffith@activision.com
Thomas Tippl, CFO ttippl@activision.com
George Rose, Chief Legal Officer and Secretary grose@activision.com
Robin Kaminsky, Executive Vise President Publishing rkaminsky@activision.com
Brian Hodous, Chief Customer Officer bhodous@activision.com
Ann Weiser Chief Human resources Officer aweiser@activision.com
Yes basically I just sent am email to everyone on their Executive Team list. I tried support first but just got a canned response saying they had no information on a PS3 patch.
RagingBITCH
Lifer
And not a single one of these guys are going to care.
warcrow
Lifer
tatteredpotato
Diamond Member
Is it possible that Microsoft paid for the compatibility before the game shipped?
Yreka
Diamond Member
Sounds like a corporate case of sour grapes. As for the 360, I think its a case of the genie already being out of the bottle. There is no way to put it back short of getting a court order for harmonex to patch & break compatibility.
Would be a shame if sony let that patch leak out in an nice easily downloadable iso update. :evil:
Would be a shame if sony let that patch leak out in an nice easily downloadable iso update. :evil:
blurredvision
Lifer
Are you serious? I actually laughed when I read this. Starting an online petition is productive? First I've heard of that. Emailing executives within the company will be MUCH more productive than a couple thousand "signatures" on an online petition.
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