[Hardware.info] Intel confirms Haswell USB 3 issue

[lagokc]

The problem with such installations is, that they quickly get obsolete one way or the other. Another issue that kills the idea anyway is that you need a cable for it. So why bother? Super small recharger or cable? One device needs a USB, another Mini USB, another Micro USB, a 4th one uses its own format in the other end. And to make it even worse, there is an A and a B model of all types as well to add on.

Hence its a silly gimmick to put in.

USB has been around for quite a long time now and even if it was replaced it wouldn't be expensive to change the faceplates. Also look at your charging cables - whether the device charges through USB/mini-USB/micro-USB/USB-B the cable is generally a standard USB on the side that plugs into the power source. Also USB is the same 5V everywhere in the world.

So now if you want to charge your phone anywhere in the world, you just bring whatever is the yourphone to USB cable and plug it into one of these USB wall ports and charge it without having to fumble around with international power adapters.

 

[aaksheytalwar]

Shame on intel to release premature hardware

 

[lagokc]

Shame on intel to release premature hardware

It's impossible to be 100% certain your hardware has 0 bugs on release. This defect is even more minor than the SATA problem that Sandy Bridge had. Just release Haswell and if the USB3 ports don't work I'll buy a PCIe card for USB3.

 

[aaksheytalwar]

Makes no sense. Now that they know it, just fix and then release.

 

[R0H1T]

It's impossible to be 100% certain your hardware has 0 bugs on release. This defect is even more minor than the SATA problem that Sandy Bridge had. Just release Haswell and if the USB3 ports don't work I'll buy a PCIe card for USB3.

You have to admit that it's pretty hard to buy a defective product knowingly let alone recommend one to others, the extent of errata really doesn't matter, unless of course you need it desperately for some reason !

 

[ShintaiDK]

Makes no sense. Now that they know it, just fix and then release.

Its a very tiny issue that only affects a very small minority. And a fix for those needing it is coming.

I have a feeling you dont know the entire errata lists for CPUs, GPUs, chipsets, controllers etc. Because then you would demand all those fixed too. And we would have 10 or 20 years releases instead of yearly. The same goes for cars, smartphones, tablets and essentially any other possible device or item in the world.

 

[lagokc]

You have to admit that it's pretty hard to buy a defective product knowingly let alone recommend one to others, the extent of errata really doesn't matter, unless of course you need it desperately for some reason !

All parts have defects, the question is whether or not you're consciously aware of the defects and if you are can you live with them.

 

[Magic Carpet]

All parts have defects, the question is whether or not you're consciously aware of the defects and if you are can you live with them.

List the defects of the current Ivy Bridge processors/chipsets, please.

 

[lagokc]

List the defects of the current Ivy Bridge processors/chipsets, please.

Locked multiplier Not all defects are unintentional

 

[ShintaiDK]

List the defects of the current Ivy Bridge processors/chipsets, please.

There are errata lists on Intels site.

Here is some for the mobile Ivy Bridge.
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/ww...n-core-family-mobile-specification-update.pdf

 

[frozentundra123456]

You have to admit that it's pretty hard to buy a defective product knowingly let alone recommend one to others, the extent of errata really doesn't matter, unless of course you need it desperately for some reason !

The extent of the errta has to matter. Saying it doesn't is like saying the transmission failing is no worse thana squeek or rattle somewhere. If I needed a desktop, this would not deter me at all. I never use sleep mode on my desktop. Even on my work laptop I always save and close my programs before leaving to do something else.

That said it is rather embarrassing. The main thing that would deter me from haswell is that it appears it will be no major upgrade on the desktop. It probably is worth waiting for if you are looking for a laptop.
The main problem that I see is that if it matters to a potential buyer, it may be very difficult to determine which units are affected.