HardOCP Battlefield 4 beta performance test

[Carfax83]

HardOCP does their Battlefield 4 beta performance test.

Looking at their results, the beta seems to have horrible performance on the 280x looking at the frame rate, but the reviewers say that the overall experience was superior on the 280x despite it having much lower frames per second than the GTX 770. That could be due to a driver issue, or the GTX 770 is running into a VRAM limitation.

The reviewers also reported sky high system memory utilization. Personally I haven't played the beta as online gaming doesn't interest me, but I was curious as to how much memory Battlefield 4 would use seeing as it's the first native 64 bit title.

Looks like even 8GB may not be enough for this game when it's released, unless there was a memory leak somewhere!

 

[blackened23]

It sounds like their issue was in using Windows 7. BF4 runs much better (for both AMD and nvidia) in Windows 8, and I don't think will change in the release version of BF4.

 

[desprado]

It sounds like their issue was in using Windows 7. BF4 runs much better (for both AMD and nvidia) in Windows 8, and I don't think will change in the release version of BF4.

Full version will be optimized for both Amd and Nvidia and both will provide optimized driver for BF4.It is beta and there no performance increase or patch.

 

[blackened23]

No, I mean Windows 7 will run BF4 worse than it will under Windows 8. HardOCP tested under Windows 7 x64 which is substantially slower than Win 8 for the BF4 beta. I'm aware that performance will change from the beta version on a general basis, that is a given. But regarding windows 7 - The DICE developers have already commented on this, it is something regarding DX 11.1. BF4 *will* run better under windows 8.x, even for the release version.

 

[Carfax83]

It sounds like their issue was in using Windows 7. BF4 runs much better (for both AMD and nvidia) in Windows 8, and I don't think will change in the release version of BF4.

I never even noticed that, as I skipped the test configuration section.

Why any reviewer would even want to use Windows 7 for game testing anymore is beyond me. Windows 8 is a much better OS for gaming period..

Has anyone noticed such high system memory requirements as reported by HardOCP?

 

[hawtdawg]

Has anyone noticed such high system memory requirements as reported by HardOCP?

BF4 uses about 2.2 gigs of system ram for me with ultra settings.

 

[Carfax83]

BF4 uses about 2.2 gigs of system ram for me with ultra settings.

Then how the hell is HardOCP seeing such high system memory usage?

They reported a max of 6.5GB of usage, but they never specified whether that's from the game itself, or overall system usage.

 

[Silverforce11]

Is it normal for it to run so slow on 1080p?

 

[bystander36]

Then how the hell is HardOCP seeing such high system memory usage?

They reported a max of 6.5GB of usage, but they never specified whether that's from the game itself, or overall system usage.

I have a high suspicion he meant VRAM usage.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

lol Windows 7, sad people clung to this for so long.

With windows 8/8.1 I get basically twice the frame rates they do.

 

[Carfax83]

I have a high suspicion he meant VRAM usage.

The only card with that much VRAM is Titan, and they didn't use the Titan in the review.

He was definitely talking about system memory:

We upgraded our test platform to have 16GB of system memory, which is the level that we performed all of our graphed testing at here today. Subjectively, there did feel like there was a difference in the overall gameplay experience by utilizing a larger amount of memory, especially with the GTX 770. More testing into memory utilization needs to be done. The game seems to consume more memory the longer you play. In our testing scenario, we got a maximum of 6.5GB of system RAM utilized just doing our short run-throughs on the previous page. However, it is after several hours of gaming, that the RAM will be pegged through the roof, and in the case of 8GB of system RAM, it just wasn't enough for long sessions of gameplay.

 

[Carfax83]

lol Windows 7, sad people clung to this for so long.

With windows 8/8.1 I get basically twice the frame rates they do.

Balla, is Windows 8.1 faster than Windows 8 for gaming, or are they about even? I'm on Windows 8, but I never tried the Windows 8.1 preview.

 

[bystander36]

The only card with that much VRAM is Titan, and they didn't use the Titan in the review.

He was definitely talking about system memory:

I meant hawtdawgs post, the one you quoted, and I quoted your response. He said it used 2.2Gb of system ram. I said he probably meant VRAM.

 

[frozentundra123456]

lol Windows 7, sad people clung to this for so long.

With windows 8/8.1 I get basically twice the frame rates they do.

No, what is sad is that windows 8 is so poorly designed for the desktop. Up until now, there has been zero reason to switch. Also sad is that MS refused to allow the latest version of Direct X in win 7 in a lame attempt to force people to switch to win 8.

I really tried to like Win 8. I do in fact like it for tablets and maybe laptops, but for the desktop, it is an abomination.

 

[OCGuy]

You cant go by the Beta test....Windows 8.1 gives a 50% performance increase.

It is borked...

 

[OCGuy]

lol Windows 7, sad people clung to this for so long.

With windows 8/8.1 I get basically twice the frame rates they do.

That isn't how it will end up lol.

 

[blackened23]

You cant go by the Beta test....Windows 8.1 gives a 50% performance increase.

It is borked...

DICE already posted a twitter message about how BF4 has DX11.1 optimizations and that the release version will run better under Windows 8 in nearly every scenario. I don't know about 50%, but Windows 8 will perform better than Windows 7 for BF4, period. It is not an anomaly - Based on DICE' statements this is a given now. This is why their system recommendations actually lists Windows 8.x for running bf4.

It isn't a case of "whoops we screwed up". It is a case of using specific DX11.x optimizations which aren't available in Windows 7. I'm sure they can bring Win7 performance up but they've already stated that Windows 8.x will run BF4 better.

 

[hawtdawg]

I meant hawtdawgs post, the one you quoted, and I quoted your response. He said it used 2.2Gb of system ram. I said he probably meant VRAM.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

No, what is sad is that windows 8 is so poorly designed for the desktop. Up until now, there has been zero reason to switch. Also sad is that MS refused to allow the latest version of Direct X in win 7 in a lame attempt to force people to switch to win 8.

I really tried to like Win 8. I do in fact like it for tablets and maybe laptops, but for the desktop, it is an abomination.

Perhaps for you, but I personally found many reasons to switch from Windows 7.

Start is basically the worst reason not to like Windows 8 since free programs and cheap ones alike give you Windows 98 back.

 

[AtenRa]

There is no excuse for not using Win 8, it has a perfectly working desktop and if you need a start button you can always install "Classic Shell" or any other program.

Im using Win 8 for more than a year now and i can tell you i have never thought of going back to Win 7, not once.

Also, you get better performance for both AMD CMT and Intel SMT processors. And dont forget, people already have Win 8 will be able to upgrade to Win 8.1 for free.

 

[ShintaiDK]

DICE already posted a twitter message about how BF4 has DX11.1 optimizations and that the release version will run better under Windows 8 in nearly every scenario. I don't know about 50%, but Windows 8 will perform better than Windows 7 for BF4, period. It is not an anomaly - Based on DICE' statements this is a given now. This is why their system recommendations actually lists Windows 8.x for running bf4.

It isn't a case of "whoops we screwed up". It is a case of using specific DX11.x optimizations which aren't available in Windows 7. I'm sure they can bring Win7 performance up but they've already stated that Windows 8.x will run BF4 better.

All 6/12 thread CPUs are broken too. Just like Win7 support. BF4 is simply in a terrible state. And it got nothing to do with Win7 or Win8.x.

 

[AtenRa]

All 6/12 thread CPUs are broken too. Just like Win7 support. BF4 is simply in a terrible state. And it got nothing to do with Win7 or Win8.x.

AMD 6-Core Vishera was working perfectly from the beginning with Win 8.

 

[BrentJ]

It sounds like their issue was in using Windows 7.

But that shouldn't be an "issue" In My Opinion. There is a large userbase of Win7 gamers, I'd say more-so than Win8 gamers. IMO, a game needs to work well on Win7 and Win8. There are a lot of Windows 7 users still, and a lot are going to stay on Windows 7, this platform, IMO, needs to be supported well, both versions of Windows do, IMO. On my personal system, I have personally seen absolutely no reason to upgrade to Windows 8. I do have Windows 8 on my laptop, cause it came with it, so I have experience using it, but on my primary desktop/gaming computer, it provides absolutely no reason for me to upgrade, it doesn't do anything that Windows 7 doesn't do, and gives me the Metro stuff I don't need or want running in the background. All of that, is my personal opinion about that. No one can force me to upgrade on my personal machine

 

[Stuka87]

lol Windows 7, sad people clung to this for so long.

With windows 8/8.1 I get basically twice the frame rates they do.

Well there are those of us that despise having a touch interface forced onto us in a desktop environment. I can't even describe how much I hate using Windows 8. And the fact that Microsoft artificially limited DX11.2 to Windows 8.1 is complete and utter BS.

 

[BallaTheFeared]