Originally posted by: minendo
Making beer can chicken tomorrow since I hate turkey and my girlfriend hates ham.
Originally posted by: dafatha00
Happy Thanksgiving!(At least for the east coasters) What are you gonna be eating for dinner? :beer:
We'll be having a nice spiral cut ham with potatoes au gratin, mashed potatoes, macoroni, corn, green bean casserole, cranberry sauce, and apple and pumpkin pies![]()
Dethawing it in hot water is a no-no, use only cold. You're playing bacterial roulette otherwise. A turkey in cold water will thaw out at a rate of about 30 minutes a pound.Originally posted by: JBAR
It's finally Turkey Day in the Central Time Zone. Happy Thanksgiving! Ham? Oy zeh Goyim.
My turkey isn't defrosted yet. Gotta wake up in 5 hrs and put it in hot water.
You are doing the same if you defrost it in cold water.Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Dethawing it in hot water is a no-no, use only cold. You're playing bacterial roulette otherwise. A turkey in cold water will thaw out at a rate of about 30 minutes a pound.Originally posted by: JBAR
It's finally Turkey Day in the Central Time Zone. Happy Thanksgiving! Ham? Oy zeh Goyim.
My turkey isn't defrosted yet. Gotta wake up in 5 hrs and put it in hot water.
No, you're not.Originally posted by: minendo
You are doing the same if you defrost it in cold water.Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Dethawing it in hot water is a no-no, use only cold. You're playing bacterial roulette otherwise. A turkey in cold water will thaw out at a rate of about 30 minutes a pound.Originally posted by: JBAR
It's finally Turkey Day in the Central Time Zone. Happy Thanksgiving! Ham? Oy zeh Goyim.
My turkey isn't defrosted yet. Gotta wake up in 5 hrs and put it in hot water.
You do realize that spoilage bacteria still grow even at refrigeration temperatures right? Cold water defrosting will have temperatures higher than refrigeration as the turkey approaches room temperature.Originally posted by: iwearnosox
No, you're not.
For the most part, yes. Unless heat stable spores have formed.Originally posted by: BaboonGuy
isn't it a moot point anyways since the turkey is going to be cooked?
Really my life's got sufficient complexity to not examine the particulars of bacterial growth on dead birds. I follow the advice of those that do study this ad nauseum, however, and have provided a link. Maybe you could send them a letter with your thanksgiving day hypothesis?Originally posted by: minendo
You do realize that spoilage bacteria still grow even at refrigeration temperatures right? Cold water defrosting will have temperatures higher than refrigeration as the turkey approaches room temperature.Originally posted by: iwearnosox
No, you're not.
And I've read your link. What their studies show (if they had even done any) may find that defrosting in cold water is safe, but I prefer to avoid any possible foodborne illnesses by defrosting in the fridge.Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Really my life's got sufficient complexity to not examine the particulars of bacterial growth on dead birds. I follow the advice of those that do study this ad nauseum, however, and have provided a link. Maybe you could send them a letter with your thanksgiving day hypothesis?Originally posted by: minendo
You do realize that spoilage bacteria still grow even at refrigeration temperatures right? Cold water defrosting will have temperatures higher than refrigeration as the turkey approaches room temperature.Originally posted by: iwearnosox
No, you're not.
And I've read your link. What their studies show (if they had even done any) may find that defrosting in cold water is safe, but I prefer to avoid any possible foodborne illnesses by defrosting in the fridge.Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Really my life's got sufficient complexity to not examine the particulars of bacterial growth on dead birds. I follow the advice of those that do study this ad nauseum, however, and have provided a link. Maybe you could send them a letter with your thanksgiving day hypothesis?Originally posted by: minendo
You do realize that spoilage bacteria still grow even at refrigeration temperatures right? Cold water defrosting will have temperatures higher than refrigeration as the turkey approaches room temperature.Originally posted by: iwearnosox
No, you're not.
I would concur with that recommendation, but he's got about 12 hours to do it in. A 16lb bird would thaw out in a fridge in about 4 days.Originally posted by: minendo
And I've read your link. What their studies show (if they had even done any) may find that defrosting in cold water is safe, but I prefer to avoid any possible foodborne illnesses by defrosting in the fridge.Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Really my life's got sufficient complexity to not examine the particulars of bacterial growth on dead birds. I follow the advice of those that do study this ad nauseum, however, and have provided a link. Maybe you could send them a letter with your thanksgiving day hypothesis?Originally posted by: minendo
You do realize that spoilage bacteria still grow even at refrigeration temperatures right? Cold water defrosting will have temperatures higher than refrigeration as the turkey approaches room temperature.Originally posted by: iwearnosox
No, you're not.
