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Happy 11th birthday Windows XP

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i still use XP on both of my machines at home. i haven't done a single windows update in probably 5 years. whatever. works fine. i run regular virus and malware scans and they always come up empty. and i have a software firewall. i'm sure i'm vulnerable in some way but it works great and no problems yet. i don't really care.

and i don't really like using windows 7 at work so why change my home computers.
 
CraigRT said:
Definitely don't miss XP.
Windows 7 is flawless for me both work and home. It just works, and the more I use it, the more I find it intuitive. It is a great OS...
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My thoughts exactly. Haven't read much about Windows 8. I think I will wait till I can see it in store before I judge. Hopefully it is not like Vista, where they come out with Windows 9 shortly after to be a Windows 7 with updated looks.
 
Triumph said:
i still use XP on both of my machines at home. i haven't done a single windows update in probably 5 years. whatever. works fine. i run regular virus and malware scans and they always come up empty. and i have a software firewall. i'm sure i'm vulnerable in some way but it works great and no problems yet. i don't really care.

and i don't really like using windows 7 at work so why change my home computers.
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I mean no malice when I say this, but computer owners with that mindset are the single biggest threat to the Internet today. You're purposely making yourself vulnerable to attacks, and in turn opening yourself up to being used in further attacks. Virus scans and software firewalls cannot replace real software security, and thanks to XP's haphazard design you could easily be infected with a rootkit exploiting a known vulnerability and not even know it. Good malware - the kind that builds long-lasting botnets - operates completely below the radar.

Simply put, if you operate an Internet-connected device then you have a social duty to make sure your devices aren't being used to engage in other attacks. And keeping your devices up to date is the cornerstone of that duty.
 
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highland145 said:
<-----My newest of 3 office machines is a P4 3ghz ~5 years old. They aren't used on the internet except for my software venders updates and daily backups. They run SQL just fine. I have absolutely no desire to spend $$ that I don't have to. Granted there's plenty of time for the machines to crap out.

One secondary machine is an AMD 1.6 ghz. All it does is access the primary database and print. But, yeah, I'm a cheap bastard.

I would think I'd have driver issues if I go to Win 7 because of the older hardware. Anyone?
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Nah, 7 is much better about drivers than XP was and I've yet to run into old stuff that I can't get to work due to drivers. It being slow as all hell, thats another thing.


In the midst of getting off XP at my workplace, got maybe another 100 machines to go. :\
 
Demo24 said:
Nah, 7 is much better about drivers than XP was and I've yet to run into old stuff that I can't get to work due to drivers. It being slow as all hell, thats another thing.


In the midst of getting off XP at my workplace, got maybe another 100 machines to go. :\
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Thanks.
 
Holy F, I can't believe XP is 11 years old. I still remember people at college installing different versions/builds of the beta.

Hell, I'm still running XP on my 2007 sony vaio laptop. XP was pretty revolutionary.
 
I'm curious how they plan to get people to buy windows 8 for desktop/laptop use. It can't possibly be good for people doing lots of development.
 
bignateyk said:
I'm curious how they plan to get people to buy windows 8 for desktop/laptop use. It can't possibly be good for people doing lots of development.
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It works well for your average user but Metro is useless for business, industry, power users, and heavy multitaskers. It's designed for tablets and touch screens. Doesn't work so well on the desktop.
 
0roo0roo said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cor-lvXsgx0

yea its just poorly thought out

windows 7 actually works pretty well, so i guess windows 8 is vista all over again, or perhaps windows me😉
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Not sure why people are still hating on Vista. It was a complete overall of an OS and had a couple bugs and problems with drivers early on. Everyone loves Win7 but it's just a polishing of Vista with the UAC settings toned down.

Metro on the desktop is a necessary evil in order to make Windows on tablets a legitmate competitor to the iPad. I don't see why people are insulted that Microsoft is going to make a push in the tablet market. It's only a matter of time before Google merged Chrome OS and Android and I do expect Apple to eventually merge iOS and OSX. Without Windows on tablets and phones, in a few years Microsoft would not be a real player in the computer and device industry. They are using the foothold they have right now with PCs to gain a solid footing with mobile devices. They still may fail of course, but without what they are doing now with Win8, they would end up as a business software/services company.

Anyway, Microsoft is going to be updating Win8 and it's core apps quite often. They already updated all of their apps between RTM and release today. I wouldn't be surprised if we get Win 8.5 next October with a few UI tweaks and Win9 the year after. It may not end up being as fast an update cycle as Apple with OSX, but I actually wouldn't be surprised if that's what they are going to shoot for.
 
rockyct said:
Metro on the desktop is a necessary evil in order to make Windows on tablets a legitmate competitor to the iPad. I don't see why people are insulted that Microsoft is going to make a push in the tablet market.
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That part just ticks me off.

A company is bringing out a product that has features most people hate and is unsuited for its intended use. Does anyone else see how f*cked up that is? Microsoft is basically using it power as a monoply in the home computer market to f*ck over its customers.
 
ViRGE said:
I mean no malice when I say this, but computer owners with that mindset are the single biggest threat to the Internet today. You're purposely making yourself vulnerable to attacks, and in turn opening yourself up to being used in further attacks. Virus scans and software firewalls cannot replace real software security, and thanks to XP's haphazard design you could easily be infected with a rootkit exploiting a known vulnerability and not even know it. Good malware - the kind that builds long-lasting botnets - operates completely below the radar.

Simply put, if you operate an Internet-connected device then you have a social duty to make sure your devices aren't being used to engage in other attacks. And keeping your devices up to date is the cornerstone of that duty.
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Yea, 5 years without an update, his machine is probably a fine mail server by now..
 
techs said:
That part just ticks me off.

A company is bringing out a product that has features most people hate and is unsuited for its intended use. Does anyone else see how f*cked up that is? Microsoft is basically using it power as a monoply in the home computer market to f*ck over its customers.
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They aren't a monopoly anymore and haven't been for a couple of years now at least because having control of the PC market doesn't mean much anymore. Legally they haven't been one for a year I think. They are a business with shareholders and they are doing what they feel is the best way to keep profits up and become a legitmate player in the mobile computing industry.

Believe it or not though, the Metro UI is actually best suited for a majority of people. It does helpful stuff like aggregates your photos, music, facebook, etc. into live titles on the start screen. It may take time for an avergage person to realize Windows is very different but in the end I think most people will like it. You have to remember that Win8 is not made for people here in a tech forum and we use our computers in a very different way from most people. Win8 is going to be a little bit more awkward for us to use over Win7 but you only have to click one title to go to the desktop and there are already tools out there that can take away that step.
 
highland145 said:
<-----My newest of 3 office machines is a P4 3ghz ~5 years old. They aren't used on the internet except for my software venders updates and daily backups. They run SQL just fine. I have absolutely no desire to spend $$ that I don't have to. Granted there's plenty of time for the machines to crap out.

One secondary machine is an AMD 1.6 ghz. All it does is access the primary database and print. But, yeah, I'm a cheap bastard.

I would think I'd have driver issues if I go to Win 7 because of the older hardware. Anyone?
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Oh indeed! for me, a really nice sound card, 2 joy sticks, 3 controllers, a scanner, 3 printers, a driving wheel, a ton of games, and a bunch of software, including MS office WILL NOT WORK or won't work well with Win 7.
I dual boot with XP
 
I must be in the minority because I actually like the concept of Win8 Metro interface. This is especially true in a dual monitor setup where I can keep the desktop on one screen and the Metro interface on the other. As a matter of fact, that's how I have mine setup right now. One screen has my desktop and I open all my applications on that screen and my other screen has my browser that fills up the whole screen. This allows me to neff on ATOT with maximum efficiency.
 
Funny, I was about to install it on an old laptop, but I'm getting tired so I'll probably do it another day. I might put windows 2000 instead though, XP is brutal slow on it. I'd put a SSD but pretty sure they don't make IDE SSDs. :awe:
 
I finally bought a laptop with Win7 this year, and all of my other PC's are still XP. I love XP, but I also didn't mind the transition to Win7, I really like 7, but not sold on 8.
 
I was actually on XP till maybe 4-5 months ago, when I tried 7 for a bit, liked it, but I had been wanting to go on Linux for a while, and since I was learning a new OS I decided to just do the jump to Linux. I still use 7 for gaming though since most if all games don't work in Linux unfortunately. There's also a really annoying bug with my video card and windows 7, which does not happen in Linux. The screens basically randomly turn off for a few seconds.
 
fortune 500, ~50k employees.

seems like most of our office people have win 7 now, but all of our revenue generating software is built for xp, All of our fracturing pumps, all of our control systems, all of our logging tools, etc.... billions in equipment.
 
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