Hannity and Colmes: Joe The Welfare Recepient

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
38,866
31,953
136
Colmes: Weren't you on welfare?

Plumber: Er, yes, but welfare was to be used, not abused.

Colmes: Well you benefited from other people giving you money didn't you? And what about roads and bridges and education and wars? Who's going to pay for all that?

Plumber: I'm not against paying taxes. I'm against paying exorbitant taxes.

Colmes: Under Obama's plan you'll get more of a tax break than if McCain had been elected. Surely you approve of that.

Plumber: Paying taxes is against my principles.

Isn't it about time this dumbass and all who would keep him in the spotlight go away forever?
 

Rainsford

Lifer
Apr 25, 2001
17,515
0
0
Originally posted by: HomerJS
Colmes: Weren't you on welfare?

Plumber: Er, yes, but welfare was to be used, not abused.

Colmes: Well you benefited from other people giving you money didn't you? And what about roads and bridges and education and wars? Who's going to pay for all that?

Plumber: I'm not against paying taxes. I'm against paying exorbitant taxes.

Colmes: Under Obama's plan you'll get more of a tax break than if McCain had been elected. Surely you approve of that.

Plumber: Paying taxes is against my principles.

Isn't it about time this dumbass and all who would keep him in the spotlight go away forever?

Probably, but honestly he seems to be pretty representative of many "conservatives" in this country. They aren't against things taxes pay for, they're just against taxes...and specifically the taxes that apply to them.
 

quest55720

Golden Member
Nov 3, 2004
1,339
0
0
I could careless the guy has no power what so ever.

Instead of bitching about joe celebrate your victory. Be happy for a while your side has complete almost unchecked power over the country.
 

microbial

Senior member
Oct 10, 2008
350
0
0
JTP is getting smacked-down by Tox news.

He doesn't make nearly enough to avoid paying taxes. Only the fabulously rich have that right in this country.
 

bctbct

Diamond Member
Dec 22, 2005
4,868
1
0
The media seems to have had it with this clown, back to the piping man.
 

Infohawk

Lifer
Jan 12, 2002
17,844
1
0
This guy has zero credibility. But according to the right-wing-extremists on this board the "little guy" shouldn't be picked on.
 

Dari

Lifer
Oct 25, 2002
17,133
38
91
Originally posted by: HomerJS
Colmes: Weren't you on welfare?

Plumber: Er, yes, but welfare was to be used, not abused.

Colmes: Well you benefited from other people giving you money didn't you? And what about roads and bridges and education and wars? Who's going to pay for all that?

Plumber: I'm not against paying taxes. I'm against paying exorbitant taxes.

Colmes: Under Obama's plan you'll get more of a tax break than if McCain had been elected. Surely you approve of that.

Plumber: Paying taxes is against my principles.

Isn't it about time this dumbass and all who would keep him in the spotlight go away forever?

Those two are contradictory.
 

Mursilis

Diamond Member
Mar 11, 2001
7,756
11
81
Originally posted by: Infohawk
This guy has zero credibility. But according to the right-wing-extremists on this board the "little guy" shouldn't be picked on.

Don't you think Obama would say the same? :confused:

Regarding that dumb plumber, if he's going to put himself out there in the media, he's a fair target. And an easy one, it would appear.
 

yowolabi

Diamond Member
Jun 29, 2001
4,183
2
81
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: HomerJS
Colmes: Weren't you on welfare?

Plumber: Er, yes, but welfare was to be used, not abused.

Colmes: Well you benefited from other people giving you money didn't you? And what about roads and bridges and education and wars? Who's going to pay for all that?

Plumber: I'm not against paying taxes. I'm against paying exorbitant taxes.

Colmes: Under Obama's plan you'll get more of a tax break than if McCain had been elected. Surely you approve of that.

Plumber: Paying taxes is against my principles.

Isn't it about time this dumbass and all who would keep him in the spotlight go away forever?

Probably, but honestly he seems to be pretty representative of many "conservatives" in this country. They aren't against things taxes pay for, they're just against taxes...and specifically the taxes that apply to them.

They're also not against benefitting from other people's money, just allowing others to benefit from theirs. I've never seen one of them turn down a check, or protest about receiving more money than they paid into something.

 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
68,143
10
81
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: HomerJS
Colmes: Weren't you on welfare?

Plumber: Er, yes, but welfare was to be used, not abused.

Colmes: Well you benefited from other people giving you money didn't you? And what about roads and bridges and education and wars? Who's going to pay for all that?

Plumber: I'm not against paying taxes. I'm against paying exorbitant taxes.

Colmes: Under Obama's plan you'll get more of a tax break than if McCain had been elected. Surely you approve of that.

Plumber: Paying taxes is against my principles.

Isn't it about time this dumbass and all who would keep him in the spotlight go away forever?

Those two are contradictory.

not realy.

i have no trouble paying a fair share. i don't see why if i make more then some i should pay twice or more the percentage then someone else.

 

Dari

Lifer
Oct 25, 2002
17,133
38
91
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: HomerJS
Colmes: Weren't you on welfare?

Plumber: Er, yes, but welfare was to be used, not abused.

Colmes: Well you benefited from other people giving you money didn't you? And what about roads and bridges and education and wars? Who's going to pay for all that?

Plumber: I'm not against paying taxes. I'm against paying exorbitant taxes.

Colmes: Under Obama's plan you'll get more of a tax break than if McCain had been elected. Surely you approve of that.

Plumber: Paying taxes is against my principles.

Isn't it about time this dumbass and all who would keep him in the spotlight go away forever?

Those two are contradictory.

not realy.

i have no trouble paying a fair share. i don't see why if i make more then some i should pay twice or more the percentage then someone else.

Can you read? In one sentence he's saying he's not againt paying taxes. In the next sentence he says paying taxes is against his principles. This isn't difficult. If something goes against your principals you are against it, thereby contradicting his earlier sentence. That must be why he has a lien against his house.
 

AyashiKaibutsu

Diamond Member
Jan 24, 2004
9,306
4
81
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: HomerJS
Colmes: Weren't you on welfare?

Plumber: Er, yes, but welfare was to be used, not abused.

Colmes: Well you benefited from other people giving you money didn't you? And what about roads and bridges and education and wars? Who's going to pay for all that?

Plumber: I'm not against paying taxes. I'm against paying exorbitant taxes.

Colmes: Under Obama's plan you'll get more of a tax break than if McCain had been elected. Surely you approve of that.

Plumber: Paying taxes is against my principles.

Isn't it about time this dumbass and all who would keep him in the spotlight go away forever?

Those two are contradictory.

not realy.

i have no trouble paying a fair share. i don't see why if i make more then some i should pay twice or more the percentage then someone else.

Because basic needs takes up a larger % of the income of people who make less so they pay a lesser % of taxes.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
68,143
10
81
Originally posted by: AyashiKaibutsu
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: HomerJS
Colmes: Weren't you on welfare?

Plumber: Er, yes, but welfare was to be used, not abused.

Colmes: Well you benefited from other people giving you money didn't you? And what about roads and bridges and education and wars? Who's going to pay for all that?

Plumber: I'm not against paying taxes. I'm against paying exorbitant taxes.

Colmes: Under Obama's plan you'll get more of a tax break than if McCain had been elected. Surely you approve of that.

Plumber: Paying taxes is against my principles.

Isn't it about time this dumbass and all who would keep him in the spotlight go away forever?

Those two are contradictory.

not realy.

i have no trouble paying a fair share. i don't see why if i make more then some i should pay twice or more the percentage then someone else.

Because basic needs takes up a larger % of the income of people who make less so they pay a lesser % of taxes.

so?

as i siad i don't see why someone should be paying more of a % of income tax then someone else.


but it will never happen. to many variables and crap that would make it happen.
 

Zenmervolt

Elite member
Oct 22, 2000
24,514
42
91
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Probably, but honestly he seems to be pretty representative of many "conservatives" in this country. They aren't against things taxes pay for, they're just against taxes...and specifically the taxes that apply to them.

*sigh*

I vote in favor of school levies when the schools are being responsible with the money they already have. I vote in favor of traffic levies when the state is being responsible with the money it already has.

I am against welfare (in its current form) on principle, but I would happily support (through taxes) a system similar to the WPA or CCC that forced recipients to actually work for the money they received from the government.

The problem is that, right now, the government has very little incentive to be responsible with the money they already have. If they invest poorly or make bad choices, oh well, they'll just raise taxes again to cover it. The Republicans are every bit as bad as the Democrats in this regard.

By the time all is said and done, over 1/3 of my earnings go to the government. That's a huge percentage and I'm not exactly in a high-paying job. I'm solidly middle-class and in no danger of missing a meal, but I'm also far from "rich".

Originally posted by: yowolabi
They're also not against benefitting from other people's money, just allowing others to benefit from theirs.

Statistically, conservatives donate more money and time to charities than liberals. This does not support your claim that they are against other people benefiting from their money. Rather, it indicates that they believe giving should be a personal decision and not a governmental mandate. It's a fine distinction, but it is there.

ZV
 

BigDH01

Golden Member
Jul 8, 2005
1,631
88
91
Video

When asked about Obama's disloyalty:

"To a Democracy, yes. You know, it goes right back to the Socialist issues, spreading the wealth. That is right out of Karl Marx, I read Webster dictionary this morning for another show I did."

*sigh*

This is what everyone did when they had to debate each other in grade school.

"According to Webster's dictionary...."

And, of course, he still got it wrong.

Websters:
Main Entry: so·cial·ism
Pronunciation: \'so-sh?-?li-z?m\
Function: noun
Date: 1837
1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

All about collective ownership :(.

 

Red Dawn

Elite Member
Jun 4, 2001
57,529
3
0
The fuckers is milking his 15 minutes of fame for all it's worth. I predict in a year or two he'll hit the News again for entering Rehab.
 

Vette73

Lifer
Jul 5, 2000
21,503
9
0
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Probably, but honestly he seems to be pretty representative of many "conservatives" in this country. They aren't against things taxes pay for, they're just against taxes...and specifically the taxes that apply to them.

*sigh*

I vote in favor of school levies when the schools are being responsible with the money they already have. I vote in favor of traffic levies when the state is being responsible with the money it already has.

I am against welfare (in its current form) on principle, but I would happily support (through taxes) a system similar to the WPA or CCC that forced recipients to actually work for the money they received from the government.

The problem is that, right now, the government has very little incentive to be responsible with the money they already have. If they invest poorly or make bad choices, oh well, they'll just raise taxes again to cover it. The Republicans are every bit as bad as the Democrats in this regard.

By the time all is said and done, over 1/3 of my earnings go to the government. That's a huge percentage and I'm not exactly in a high-paying job. I'm solidly middle-class and in no danger of missing a meal, but I'm also far from "rich".

Originally posted by: yowolabi
They're also not against benefitting from other people's money, just allowing others to benefit from theirs.

Statistically, conservatives donate more money and time to charities than liberals. This does not support your claim that they are against other people benefiting from their money. Rather, it indicates that they believe giving should be a personal decision and not a governmental mandate. It's a fine distinction, but it is there.

ZV


BS alarm just went off. And please do not link to that "study" to back up your claim, it has already been debunked many times over and shown to be biased.