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Handgun owners: Do you take your gun to work?

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Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: hiromizu
You make it sound like it's OK to bring guns to work.

It is. Completely. There is no logical argument with any support that you can make against it.

That noone in their sane mind would trust you with a gun?

Except the Federal Government, almost a dozen State Governments, a dozen or so previous employers, and everyone who has ever met me (even those STAUNCHLY opposed to private firearm ownership).

Next.

My point exactly, none of them was sane 😀
 
Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: hiromizu
You make it sound like it's OK to bring guns to work.

It is. Completely. There is no logical argument with any support that you can make against it.

That noone in their sane mind would trust you with a gun?

Except the Federal Government, almost a dozen State Governments, a dozen or so previous employers, and everyone who has ever met me (even those STAUNCHLY opposed to private firearm ownership).

Next.

My point exactly, none of them was sane 😀

Ok, I actually agree with you on that. 😎
 
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: coreyb
not even close to legal up in Canada. my dad who goes down to the U.S. pretty often says its always a trip seeing all you guys walking around with guns on your hip. i couldnt imagine it up here, only guns i see are with cops.

Did your dad ever, at any time, go by a name like "Johnny Eagle Eye" and last visit the US ~1879?

Because if not, he's full of shit.

LOL
 
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: hiromizu
You make it sound like it's OK to bring guns to work.

It is. Completely. There is no logical argument with any support that you can make against it.

That noone in their sane mind would trust you with a gun?

Except the Federal Government, almost a dozen State Governments, a dozen or so previous employers, and everyone who has ever met me (even those STAUNCHLY opposed to private firearm ownership).

Next.

Wait, you forgot the part where you caress your gun and nuzzle it to your cheek. 😛
 
I can only think of one time I've ever seen someone with a gun on their hip.

There's a guy who runs a paintball field that is out in the country. In addition to paintball stuff, he's also a firearms dealer and he always has a gun in a holster on his waist. I'm in North Carolina FYI.
 
Originally posted by: coreyb
not even close to legal up in Canada. my dad who goes down to the U.S. pretty often says its always a trip seeing all you guys walking around with guns on your hip. i couldnt imagine it up here, only guns i see are with cops.

Same here. I think ATOT is a weird microcosm of what this country is really like. Obviously you never see it here in CA, but I've traveled elsewhere more than a few times and you don't see it anywhere else either.
Originally posted by: Pegun
Originally posted by: GenHoth
Originally posted by: JDMnAR1
No firearms allowed on campus, so unfortunately it has to stay home during the work day.

Same here, so stupid

Refer to signature for those who disagree

:roll: Next time there's a ship of the line full of Redcoats just offshore, you let me know and I'll start carrying along with you.
 
Originally posted by: LtPage1
:roll: Next time there's a ship of the line full of Redcoats just offshore, you let me know and I'll start carrying along with you.

All enemies, domestic and foreign. Why wait for redcoats when we have D.C.?
 
Originally posted by: Pegun
Originally posted by: GenHoth
Originally posted by: JDMnAR1
No firearms allowed on campus, so unfortunately it has to stay home during the work day.

Same here, so stupid

Refer to signature for those who disagree

while I agree with the gist of the comment, this part is so overwhelmingly false in today's world:
more than 99% of them by their silence indicate that they are in safe and sane hands.
 
Originally posted by: daniel1113
Originally posted by: LtPage1
:roll: Next time there's a ship of the line full of Redcoats just offshore, you let me know and I'll start carrying along with you.

All enemies, domestic and foreign. Why wait for redcoats when we have D.C.?

:thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by: yh125d
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: KentState
We are not allowed to have guns anywhere on company property, otherwise I would carry it to work and keep in the car during the day. The law is somewhat silly because anyone can come onto the property that's not an employee and carry one.

Freedom in this country has taken a dive.

And we still wave the flag every Independence Day and brag about how "free" we are.

What a joke!

We don't know the meaning of the word.

The Second Amendment gives you a CCW.

I am a libertarian and totally agree with employers who make it policy to ban firearms from premises, concealed carry license or not. It makes people uncomfortable no matter who it is with the gun

Your constitutional rights shouldn't leave at employers doorstep. Would you think it's ok for employer to search your wallet or purse each day or monitor your phone calls? I understand some sensitive facilities require this, I worked in one at Nevada Test Site, but they are few and far.

From a practical viewpoint, irrespective of your constitutional rights, CCW's don't commit violent crimes but instead could have prevented some of these mass slaughters at work sites and universities over the years. If you ever read the details of such assaults the murder(s) roam around for tens of minutes to hours unimpeded, hallway to hallway, executing an unarmed populus which could never happen had a couple professors been armed.

I personally feel just the opposite. I trust my fellow law abiding man and would feel more comfortable with a few of them armed.
 
Even if I a) did have a handgund, and b) my state (IL) actually allowed it, I'd have absolutely zero reason to bring it to work.

I've only had one job in my life where I felt like I might feel a little bit better having one available. I used to do some paper routes for extra income while my wife was still in pharmacy school and on occassion I'd do sub routes for another carrier that went through a really rough trailer park way outside of town. I had one situation where I broke up a probable burglarly (resulted in a call to the cops from me) that really freaked me out. Not saying a gun would have helped/stopped anything but it was one of those situations where I'd rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.
 
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: yh125d
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: KentState
We are not allowed to have guns anywhere on company property, otherwise I would carry it to work and keep in the car during the day. The law is somewhat silly because anyone can come onto the property that's not an employee and carry one.

Freedom in this country has taken a dive.

And we still wave the flag every Independence Day and brag about how "free" we are.

What a joke!

We don't know the meaning of the word.

The Second Amendment gives you a CCW.

I am a libertarian and totally agree with employers who make it policy to ban firearms from premises, concealed carry license or not. It makes people uncomfortable no matter who it is with the gun

Your constitutional rights shouldn't leave at employers doorstep. Would you think it's ok for employer to search your wallet or purse each day or monitor your phone calls? I understand some sensitive facilities require this, I worked in one at Nevada Test Site, but they are few and far.

From a practical viewpoint, irrespective of your constitutional rights, CCW's don't commit violent crimes but instead could have prevented some of these mass slaughters at work sites and universities over the years. If you ever read the details of such assaults the murder(s) roam around for tens of minutes to hours unimpeded, hallway to hallway, executing an unarmed populus which could never happen had a couple professors been armed.

I personally feel just the opposite. I trust my fellow law abiding man and would feel more comfortable with a few of them armed.

im ok with them searching me when i go into palo verde nuclear plant, at least they are checking. and your rights arent being taken away, you are asked to follow their rules. if you dont agree, do go there. plain and simple.
 
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: yh125d
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: KentState
We are not allowed to have guns anywhere on company property, otherwise I would carry it to work and keep in the car during the day. The law is somewhat silly because anyone can come onto the property that's not an employee and carry one.

Freedom in this country has taken a dive.

And we still wave the flag every Independence Day and brag about how "free" we are.

What a joke!

We don't know the meaning of the word.

The Second Amendment gives you a CCW.

I am a libertarian and totally agree with employers who make it policy to ban firearms from premises, concealed carry license or not. It makes people uncomfortable no matter who it is with the gun

Your constitutional rights shouldn't leave at employers doorstep. Would you think it's ok for employer to search your wallet or purse each day or monitor your phone calls? I understand some sensitive facilities require this, I worked in one at Nevada Test Site, but they are few and far.

From a practical viewpoint, irrespective of your constitutional rights, CCW's don't commit violent crimes but instead could have prevented some of these mass slaughters at work sites and universities over the years. If you ever read the details of such assaults the murder(s) roam around for tens of minutes to hours unimpeded, hallway to hallway, executing an unarmed populus which could never happen had a couple professors been armed.

I personally feel just the opposite. I trust my fellow law abiding man and would feel more comfortable with a few of them armed.

Private property owners have the right to decide weather or not their guests may carry firearms on their property.

I am 100% in favor of gun rights and I am 100% in favor of personal and private property rights. The two can coexist with some common sense.
 
I take it to work, but I leave it in the car. I would take it inside, but the school policy and the state policy state that you can not conceal carry in the school, you have to open carry. I don't like open carry because it makes people stare at me.
 
Originally posted by: daniel1113
Originally posted by: LtPage1
:roll: Next time there's a ship of the line full of Redcoats just offshore, you let me know and I'll start carrying along with you.

All enemies, domestic and foreign. Why wait for redcoats when we have D.C.?

Dirty little secret is States with CCW's and large gun ownership also have the largest drops in violent crimes because because criminals are uncertain which potential victims can defend themselves and the people are able to defend themselves. When you take away guns you have the majority of law abiding citizens at the mercy of thugs who have guns no matter what the law says, well be cause they are not law abiding by definition. Our inner cities are famous for this oppression of an unarmed many by a small band of armed thugs. As usual ideals and values like freedom and rule of law are not free and only comes about by superiority in applying organized violence. Some people, like Mr Page, never understand this ugly side of their insular bubble.
 
Originally posted by: zinfamous
while I agree with the gist of the comment, this part is so overwhelmingly false in today's world:
more than 99% of them by their silence indicate that they are in safe and sane hands.

You may feel that it's false, but actual data prove otherwise.

There are 89 firearms deaths per day in the US.

There are between 238,000,000 and 276,000,000 privately-owned firearms in the US.

Every day, 99.9999% of firearms kill nobody (assuming that there are "only" 238,000,000 firearms, if we assume 276,000,000, then the percentage is even higher).

Even if we do yearly numbers and ignore the fact that criminals tend to use a firearm multiple times, 99.98% of all firearms kill nobody (again assuming the 238,000,000 number).

Even if we took all injuries into account, it still would not cause the percentage to drop below 99%.

ZV
 
Originally posted by: iFX
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: yh125d
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: KentState
We are not allowed to have guns anywhere on company property, otherwise I would carry it to work and keep in the car during the day. The law is somewhat silly because anyone can come onto the property that's not an employee and carry one.

Freedom in this country has taken a dive.

And we still wave the flag every Independence Day and brag about how "free" we are.

What a joke!

We don't know the meaning of the word.

The Second Amendment gives you a CCW.

I am a libertarian and totally agree with employers who make it policy to ban firearms from premises, concealed carry license or not. It makes people uncomfortable no matter who it is with the gun

Your constitutional rights shouldn't leave at employers doorstep. Would you think it's ok for employer to search your wallet or purse each day or monitor your phone calls? I understand some sensitive facilities require this, I worked in one at Nevada Test Site, but they are few and far.

From a practical viewpoint, irrespective of your constitutional rights, CCW's don't commit violent crimes but instead could have prevented some of these mass slaughters at work sites and universities over the years. If you ever read the details of such assaults the murder(s) roam around for tens of minutes to hours unimpeded, hallway to hallway, executing an unarmed populus which could never happen had a couple professors been armed.

I personally feel just the opposite. I trust my fellow law abiding man and would feel more comfortable with a few of them armed.

Private property owners have the right to decide weather or not their guests may carry firearms on their property.

I am 100% in favor of gun rights and I am 100% in favor of personal and private property rights. The two can coexist with some common sense.
I question the 100% ratio.

Unless you believe in workplace discrimination too your views are inconsistent. You don't take the 2nd as seriously as the 14th.

Maybe 50%.
 
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: iFX
Private property owners have the right to decide weather or not their guests may carry firearms on their property.

I am 100% in favor of gun rights and I am 100% in favor of personal and private property rights. The two can coexist with some common sense.

Unless you believe in workplace discrimination too you views are inconsistent. You don't take the 2nd as seriously as the 14th.

Sorry, but private property is private property. If you want the right to prohibit people from your own property, you must also accept that you can be prohibited from someone else's property for any reason.

The 14th amendment applies to state and federal government agencies, it does not apply to private property.

I suppose though, that since you don't believe in property rights, that you'd be just fine with me and several of my buddies coming over and using your house for a party. After all, it's just discrimination if you try to kick us out, right?

ZV
 
No, I leave it at home.

Only time I take it with me in the car is when I am traveling on vacation or something along those lines.
 
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