HAMMER BENCHMARKS 800MHz!!!!! 256K L2 Cache vs Athlon MP 800!!!!

[Adul]

anyone notice the size of the socket for the opteron. that thing has over 900 pins!!!

 

[microAmp]

It's not right to tease like that . . . is that really gonna come down on Monday?

Yup, Monday. So better stay up late Sunday night and catch Anand's article if it comes out at midnight.

 

[BD231]

I almost feel sorry for AMD, they have so much to offer and not enough resources to make it all happen in the time frames they would like to see.

 

[jm0ris0n]

AMD may ship the hammer processor December 31, 2002 but I have faith IT WILL be out this year

 

[Athlon4all]

Originally posted by: Xerox Man
It's not right to tease like that . . . is that really gonna come down on Monday?

Well, XP 2200,2300, 2400, and 2500+'s are appearing in a few storees and to be honest, I cannot take that as anything but that we will see on Monday the launch of T-Breds at those models.

anyone notice the size of the socket for the opteron. that thing has over 900 pins!!!

To be honest, I haven't seen a mobo pic (without CPU being installed) of a SledgeHammer Opeteron.

 

[BFG10K]

Looks good and I can't wait to see it clocked higher as well as seeing it running more kinds of benchmarks.

 

[XMan]

Originally posted by: Athlon4all

Originally posted by: Xerox Man
It's not right to tease like that . . . is that really gonna come down on Monday?

Well, XP 2200,2300, 2400, and 2500+'s are appearing in a few storees and to be honest, I cannot take that as anything but that we will see on Monday the launch of T-Breds at those models.

anyone notice the size of the socket for the opteron. that thing has over 900 pins!!!

To be honest, I haven't seen a mobo pic (without CPU being installed) of a SledgeHammer Opeteron.

I don't see anything on Pricewatch other than 2200+ CPU's. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have a 2500+ - but I"m not finding any.

 

[BD231]

Originally posted by: Xerox Man

I don't see anything on Pricewatch other than 2200+ CPU's. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have a 2500+ - but I"m not finding any.

Current 2200+ Xp's are still based on the .18u core.

 

[silent tone]

I don't see anything on Pricewatch other than 2200+ CPU's. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have a 2500+ - but I"m not finding any.

link

 

[Utterman]

Originally posted by: Smokeball
OK, somebody tell me how fast this will do a SETI Work Unit?

The Hammer eats them for breakfast

 

[RaynorWolfcastle]

I don't want to rain on anyone's parade but isn't quake3 one of the most memory dependant of the commonly used benchmarks? Surprise surprise, you take a Clawhammer, give it DDR333 using the integrated memory controller and it performs great despite the low speed

Did anyone expect otherwise?

-Ice

 

[joohang]

Originally posted by: icecool83
I don't want to rain on anyone's parade but isn't quake3 one of the most memory dependant of the commonly used benchmarks? Surprise surprise, you take a Clawhammer, give it DDR333 using the integrated memory controller and it performs great despite the low speed

Did anyone expect otherwise?

-Ice

So your point is?

Although I did wish to see more benchmarks.

 

[RaynorWolfcastle]

Originally posted by: joohang

Originally posted by: icecool83
I don't want to rain on anyone's parade but isn't quake3 one of the most memory dependant of the commonly used benchmarks? Surprise surprise, you take a Clawhammer, give it DDR333 using the integrated memory controller and it performs great despite the low speed

Did anyone expect otherwise?

-Ice

So your point is?

Although I did wish to see more benchmarks.

My point is that this is hardly news, everyone knew the memory performance of the ClawHammer would be great because of the on-die memory controller.... What people want to know is how it will perform on, say, an FPU-centric benchmark (rendering 3DS Max scenes perhaps).

-Ice

 

[joohang]

Well at least we know that the integrated memory controller does boost up the performance quite a bit in practice, not just on paper.

I do agree with you on other benchmarks, though. I wonder if AMD allowed only the memory performance to be released and prohibited anything else under an NDA.

 

[miniMUNCH]

And don't forget...the claw only has one memmory controller on chip...the sledge has two.

Pair that with the currently low MHz (underclocked to reduce speculation...i.e. thunder-stealing) and beta chipset drivers I'd say that article has some scary stuff in it.

Looks like the hammers will be [Vader voice] impressive [/Vader voice].

 

[Adul]

I though the claw would have two mem

 

[Diable]

Originally posted by: SexyK
Looks pretty good, but I have a sneaking suspicion none of us will have a shot at one of these chips until the middle of 2003, by which time Intel probably will have Prestonia with Hyperthreading and 667MHz FSB at 4GHz. Of course that's pure speculation, but we should have had Thouroubred about 3 months ago, so I'm willing to bet AMD is having serious fab problems.

Kramer

I think your probably right.

 

[Nemesis77]

Originally posted by: joohang

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
can anyone tell me the differences?

so clawhammer is the next athlon to come out? and what is thorobred or whatever.

Thoroughbred will be a .13µ revision of the K7 Palomino core. ClawHammer is just.. Hammer.

Clawhammer will be branded as Athlon, while current Athlons become the value CPU (may or may not be called Duron)

 

[littlegohan]

The english version is well written. Those Germans must be fluent in both English and German.

 

[jm0ris0n]

Originally posted by: littlegohan
The english version is well written. Those Germans must be fluent in both English and German.

No kidding! I dated a german international advertising student here in the US (she was from germany, dresden actually) and WoW! Hehe, she spoke English without an accent at all. I'll have to take her word for it, but apparently she was fluent in italian, French, and spanish!

 

[MadRat]

Don't forget in that Quake!!! benchmark that they used a CPU-hungry videocard.

The Pentium4 at 800MHz had none of the inefficiencies of running high speed, mainly too little memory bandwidth. Its safe to say the Pentium4 in this review was saturated with memory bandwidth.

 

[classy]

Originally posted by: icecool83

Originally posted by: joohang

Originally posted by: icecool83
I don't want to rain on anyone's parade but isn't quake3 one of the most memory dependant of the commonly used benchmarks? Surprise surprise, you take a Clawhammer, give it DDR333 using the integrated memory controller and it performs great despite the low speed

Did anyone expect otherwise?

-Ice

So your point is?

Although I did wish to see more benchmarks.

My point is that this is hardly news, everyone knew the memory performance of the ClawHammer would be great because of the on-die memory controller.... What people want to know is how it will perform on, say, an FPU-centric benchmark (rendering 3DS Max scenes perhaps).

-Ice

WEll the Athlon is already leading the pack there. Let alone bringing Hammer into the picture.

 

[PuppettMaster001]

Didnt AMD say that the Hammer wasnt perfoming as well as they hoped? It looks like it is performing pretty good to me considering it is only 800Mhz

 

[Insomniac]

Am I the only one who questions the legitamacy of this? Especially with the string in the bottom right of WCPUID grayed out?

Doesn't it seem odd that a CPU with a longer pipeline smokes one with a shorter one at the same speed? A 40% improvement in Q3A?

This all seems like BS to me. Why has AMD only been showing simple demos if it performs that well already? Wouldn't they show more intricate demos like Intel does?

Edit:
I'm not trying to say the Hammer won't perform, I just question what techchannel is claiming.

 

[ragiepew]

Doesn't it seem odd that a CPU with a longer pipeline smokes one with a shorter one at the same speed? A 40% improvement in Q3A?

You make a good point about legitimacy, however you cannot assume that a CPU w/ a longer pipeline will not have a higher performance per clock than one w/ a shorter one... there are other things that help performance out, especially when you consider that hammer will have an advanced improvements aside from just its traditional core. Anyway, I too am a bit skeptical, hell I think everyone is, but it doesn't make these benches any less interesting... hell, if anything, it gives us something to yap about for a while.