Hammer and Barton delayed!!!!

[Duvie]

I knew it....It is being reported by bloomburg and a few site now....check out general hardware for links....


I fear this may have intel possibly slow down their timetable. AMD supposedly is going to concentrate on getting out 166fsb chips which we have seen and heard for awhile now will not offer that much of an improvement for the tbreds..They need 512kb l2 cache, but unfortunately that will be the barton and that will be delayed until into 2nd quarter next year...


I hate to say it, but I stated numerous times when we speculated on hammers release and pondered the big slowdown in tbred releases that I couldn't see amd meeting its ambitiuos hammer release...

Looks like end of 1st quarter or just into 2nd quarter oems will start getting chips with desktop users like ourselves getting it in may/june.....


Will INtel use the time to get the prescott ready for a showdown with the hammer, or push their roadmap back....The 3.06ghz was due this end of october...Do you think it will still happen??? If intel can get to 3.4-3.6ghz like THG has stated will this be enough to compete with the hammer or will it take the prescott with a possible 666/800fsb, HT, 1mb l2 cache, and dual channel chipset???

 

[Mikki]

Hiya Duvie, I think Intel will stay on the roadmap, unless a LOT of money is to be had by pushing it back. I don't think they'll lose much by continuing like they are. Let's hope not!

 

[mechBgon]

That does it... I'm getting a time machine. :disgust:

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: mechBgon
That does it... I'm getting a time machine. :disgust:

A Timex or a Casio?

 

[mechBgon]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: mechBgon
That does it... I'm getting a time machine. :disgust:

A Timex or a Casio?

Neither. The one I'm getting is PC-based, believe it or not. The only part I still need to pick up is a Clawhammer CPU and I'm set.

Hey, waiiiiiit a second...

 

[Banana]

Forgive my ignorance--What is this Athlon with a 333 FSB that is being mentioned? It's news to me

 

[lookin4dlz]

Mikki - gotta agree with you. I was reading an interview with two Intel engineers who were talking about showing a 5GHz P4 next year. They said that Intel had messed up in losing its focus on the consumer chip market (remember they diversified into a lot of related fields the past few years) and that Intel wouldn't make that mistake again.

I see Intel pushing even harder now, maybe ramping up faster than expected. Intel grabbed an additional 2% market share in the first half of this year. With nothing new from AMD until the 4th quarter of this year they might be able to duplicate that market share gain and then do it again in the second half of next year before AMD gets untracked with its new chips.

This could put AMD down around 10% of the market & start to affect its economies of scale. Intel already holds a very slight edge in manufacturing cost per chip (both around $10/chip), so this lead would grow (also the move to 300mm wafers will be in full swing next year - I think these cut costs by 35%, not much on $10 cost but in such a competitive environment every bit helps). AMD is going to have to cut chip prices which will expand the commanding ASP per chip that Intel already has.

If I recall at the mid-year update, AMD said they have $1 billion in cash & are burning through $200mm/quarter. The continued slow economy is hurting them more than it is Intel (due to size, diversification). Could time could start to run out for AMD by the end of next year?