Hamas neutered?

[alchemize]

So when Israel blew up the Sheik in March, I don't think they could have struck a higher profile target, possibly excepting Arafat. We heard cries of revenge and a firestorm of bombings, yet it seems it's been relatively quiet.

Is Israel turning the tide against organized terror?

 

[n0cmonkey]

One of the worst things about martyrs is that creating one creates usually fosters more.

 

[sMiLeYz]

There are no headquarters for terrorists, because terrorism is a fvcking idea. Bombing this or that won't kill that idea, it'll create more terrorists.
I know fools here will think it as caving in to terrorism, but the only true way to defeat Hamas terrorism is to make peace.
Israel and Palestine needs to make peace.

 

[Crimson]

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
There are no headquarters for terrorists, because terrorism is a fvcking idea. Bombing this or that won't kill that idea, it'll create more terrorists.
I know fools here will think it as caving in to terrorism, but the only true way to defeat Hamas terrorism is to make peace.
Israel and Palestine needs to make peace.

Thats all wonderful and all.. but how exactly do you plan on accomplishing that? Because sitting at your computer and posting people should 'make peace' is nice and all, but you are not offering up any SOLUTIONS. WHich is typical of liberals.. you like to criticize while never offering up a plan of your own (Kerry).

HOW do you plan on getting Israel and Palestine to be peaceful? And if you don't know, then you shouldn't be spouting off on how peace in the answer.. of course PEACE is the answer, how you get there is the question you can't answer.

 

[IndieSnob]

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
There are no headquarters for terrorists, because terrorism is a fvcking idea. Bombing this or that won't kill that idea, it'll create more terrorists.
I know fools here will think it as caving in to terrorism, but the only true way to defeat Hamas terrorism is to make peace.
Israel and Palestine needs to make peace.

Thats all wonderful and all.. but how exactly do you plan on accomplishing that? Because sitting at your computer and posting people should 'make peace' is nice and all, but you are not offering up any SOLUTIONS. WHich is typical of liberals.. you like to criticize while never offering up a plan of your own (Kerry).

HOW do you plan on getting Israel and Palestine to be peaceful? And if you don't know, then you shouldn't be spouting off on how peace in the answer.. of course PEACE is the answer, how you get there is the question you can't answer.

Funny, I don't see you offering up a plan yourself on how to make peace in that regions. I guess sitting at your computer and blaming everything on liberals istead of coming up with a plan of your own. Also, have you seen any republicans make anymore leedway in the peace process then democrats have? Bztttttttt, nope. Next time how about YOU get a clue before you call someone else out on it.

 

[thebenjamins]

they have undoubtedly retarded their capacity to strike within israel, but if they take the pressure off it will be back with avengence, and if they keep the pressure up, yes they will kill leaders, but the other leaders will refocus their movement around more underground resistance than public leadership. also how long till they have a pop at sharon?

 

[Spencer278]

Doesn't seem like they are very neutered.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,123874,00.html

 

[kermalou]

it's not neutered.....


read this site and you will see all the bombings that are thrwated everyday by the IDF
http://www.debka.com

 

[NesuD]

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
There are no headquarters for terrorists, because terrorism is a fvcking idea. Bombing this or that won't kill that idea, it'll create more terrorists.
I know fools here will think it as caving in to terrorism, but the only true way to defeat Hamas terrorism is to make peace.
Israel and Palestine needs to make peace.

You know a little less that 3 years ago a certain terrorist organization whom we had basically given a free pass after repeated attacks on our interests brought it all home and brought down 2 of the largest buildings in the world killing 3000 innocent civilians. Any of that ring a bell? explain how our passive behavior towards Al Queda in the decade preceding 9/11 did not create more terrorists. If you think turning the other cheek is the best way to deal with these murderers then you are hopeless. Peace with Hamas is not possible short of the dissolution of the state of Isreal. The only way to deal with the brand of mindless terrorism coming out of the middle east is to totally and completely crush it.

 

[conehead433]

" but the only true way to defeat Hamas terrorism is to make peace."

Hamas has made it pretty obvious that the only way to defeat Hamas' sponsored terrorism is to wipe every last Hamas off the face of the earth. I'm 100% certain that if they keep it up, this is exactly what Israel will end up accomplishing.

 

[sMiLeYz]

Originally posted by: NesuD

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
There are no headquarters for terrorists, because terrorism is a fvcking idea. Bombing this or that won't kill that idea, it'll create more terrorists.
I know fools here will think it as caving in to terrorism, but the only true way to defeat Hamas terrorism is to make peace.
Israel and Palestine needs to make peace.

The only way to deal with the brand of mindless terrorism coming out of the middle east is to totally and completely crush it.

Oh? Really? You mean bombing the entire middle east into submission? That's just dandy.

You know a little less that 3 years ago a certain terrorist organization whom we had basically given a free pass after repeated attacks on our interests brought it all home and brought down 2 of the largest buildings in the world killing 3000 innocent civilians.

Read Richard Clarke's book and THEN come back and say we gave Al Qaida a free pass those years.

Heres a solution:
We need to pull out of the middle east, cut our ties to Saudi Arabia and their despotic regime. Quit those foreign adventure of going into Iraq. Have Israel making peace with Palestine... or else.

Then you take away any reason for there to be terrorist. Because terrorist to us are Freedom fighters to them.

 

[judasmachine]

you'll simply never 'nueter' an organization like that. sooner or later, they will come back. they are fighting a hydra that grows two heads when you cut off one. the whole israel situation is unwinnable by either side, they will all die by the sword they've chosen to live by.

 

[Genesys]

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
There are no headquarters for terrorists, because terrorism is a fvcking idea. Bombing this or that won't kill that idea, it'll create more terrorists.
I know fools here will think it as caving in to terrorism, but the only true way to defeat Hamas terrorism is to make peace.
Israel and Palestine needs to make peace.

obviously, but one side or the other needs to swollow their pride or something and be the FIRST to step up to the negotiating table with the intent and the fortitude to keep to their agreements. without that, it will all just be false words and wasted time.

its like siblings who fight all the damn time, one of them needs to grow up and demonstrate a little maturity. youd think it would be the palestineans just to demonstrate to the world how peaceful of a religion they follow.

 

[sMiLeYz]

You know the Isreali people for a LONG time were getting welfare from us, we gave them weapons, we gave them technology. We have alot of clout. We can make Isreal do what ever the f we want.

We need to step in and say Israel and Palestine, make some godamn peace or we'll cut off aid. It'll scare them sh!tless.

But we act as if it owns us, as if WE need THEM. When in reality it's the other way around. It's stupid.

 

[Kadarin]

Here's one solution: For every act of Islamic terrorism, nuke one Islamic city. Terrorism will either stop, or the world will run out of Muslims.

 

[judasmachine]

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
You know the Isreali people for a LONG time were getting welfare from us, we gave them weapons, we gave them technology. We have alot of clout. We can make Isreal do what ever the f we want.

We need to step in and say Israel and Palestine, make some godamn peace or we'll cut off aid. It'll scare them sh!tless.

But we act as if it owns us, as if WE need THEM. When in reality it's the other way around. It's stupid.

Sadly you are only partly right. Somehow modern christianity as it is practiced by some Americans will not let us dictate to Israel, but instead we kiss their feet. We accuse whoever Israel wants us to, and praise them for maintaining security.

We would be well advised to tell them do it or you are cut off, but it isn't going to happen anytime soon. Zionists are too powerful in this country and peace doesn't suit them right now.

 

[judasmachine]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Here's one solution: For every act of Islamic terrorism, nuke one Islamic city. Terrorism will either stop, or the world will run out of Muslims.

yes this will work. as the fallout will kill everyone else too. a world deep in nuclear winter would solve ALL of our problems. ::rolls eyes::

 

[JihadJim]

Originally posted by: judasmachine

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Here's one solution: For every act of Islamic terrorism, nuke one Islamic city. Terrorism will either stop, or the world will run out of Muslims.

yes this will work. as the fallout will kill everyone else too. a world deep in nuclear winter would solve ALL of our problems. ::rolls eyes::

Not if we use nuclear air bursts, which are stronger than ground ones anyways.

Oh, and the possible nuclear winter that Carl Sagan proposed has been refuted.

Not that I'm advocation use of nuclear weapons in strategic and tacticaly situations or anything, just sayin.

Nevertheless, moderate muslims need to restrain their extremists a little better.

 

[IndieSnob]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Here's one solution: For every act of Islamic terrorism, nuke one Islamic city. Terrorism will either stop, or the world will run out of Muslims.

Wow, I sure hope you're the leader of our country some time in our lifetime. You really came up with the answer we all needed :roll:

You don't seem to understand that terrorists DO NOT represent the people of the country they attack from, inhabit, etc. If a 'country' is sponsoring terrorismn, then you deal with the government of that country, instead of wanting to play mass murderer by bombing the whole place. It's really sad to see the rhetoric people like you use. It's the same type dictators have used since the start of time.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: IndieSnob

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Here's one solution: For every act of Islamic terrorism, nuke one Islamic city. Terrorism will either stop, or the world will run out of Muslims.

Wow, I sure hope you're the leader of our country some time in our lifetime. You really came up with the answer we all needed :roll:

You don't seem to understand that terrorists DO NOT represent the people of the country they attack from, inhabit, etc. If a 'country' is sponsoring terrorismn, then you deal with the government of that country, instead of wanting to play mass murderer by bombing the whole place. It's really sad to see the rhetoric people like you use. It's the same type dictators have used since the start of time.

Terrorists would not have to represent the people of the country attacked. They would, however, be faced with the choice of either stopping their actions, or accepting the fact that Islamic civilization would be exterminated.

Please notice that I am not advocating this. Instead, I am presenting this as a solution that might be possible from a psychological standpoint, given the fact that nothing else has solved the problem yet.

 

[judasmachine]

Terrorists would not have to represent the people of the country attacked. They would, however, be faced with the choice of either stopping their actions, or accepting the fact that Islamic civilization would be exterminated. --end quote

Well the big flaw in the plan being that there are terrorists right here in our own backyard, whether al queda buddy muslim, or doctor clinic bombing christian......

 

[IndieSnob]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: IndieSnob

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Here's one solution: For every act of Islamic terrorism, nuke one Islamic city. Terrorism will either stop, or the world will run out of Muslims.

Wow, I sure hope you're the leader of our country some time in our lifetime. You really came up with the answer we all needed :roll:

You don't seem to understand that terrorists DO NOT represent the people of the country they attack from, inhabit, etc. If a 'country' is sponsoring terrorismn, then you deal with the government of that country, instead of wanting to play mass murderer by bombing the whole place. It's really sad to see the rhetoric people like you use. It's the same type dictators have used since the start of time.

Terrorists would not have to represent the people of the country attacked. They would, however, be faced with the choice of either stopping their actions, or accepting the fact that Islamic civilization would be exterminated.

Please notice that I am not advocating this. Instead, I am presenting this as a solution that might be possible from a psychological standpoint, given the fact that nothing else has solved the problem yet.

Do you really think they'd stop if we threatened to 'exterminate' islamic civilization? No. First off they know it would never happen, no matter how badly things got out of hand. Secondly you don't seem to understand that these terrorists we are dealing with are not afraid of death, even the death of those they so called want to protect, instead it's mayrtordom, and when new people come into their ranks, the feel that it will just rebirth the movement.

 

[GreatBarracuda]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Here's one solution: For every act of Islamic terrorism, nuke one Islamic city. Terrorism will either stop, or the world will run out of Muslims.

Such noble ideas you have...

 

[ThePresence]

Hamas is still a real force to be reckoned with over there. Let's not fool ourselves, just because the IDF stops countless attacks does not mean that they aren't trying everyday.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Here's one solution: For every act of Islamic terrorism, nuke one Islamic city. Terrorism will either stop, or the world will run out of Muslims.

The same result could far more easily be achieved and at the expense of far fewer weapons by nuking Israel. Where in the hell is your common sense? Try to grow a brain.