Hamas BHO endorsement

[CADsortaGUY]

http://www.washingtontimes.com.../NATION/334729180/1001

Since the other thread was locked :roll: lets see if there can be some discussion on this topic.

What I'm curious about(besides the curious timing of Carter's trip) is why Hamas would even take the time to inject themselves into our elections. Didn't they realize that they'd get a "rejection"....or is that what they wanted? To get him on record...

 

[dahunan]

Remember when Cheney said that if you vote for Democrats that Osama/Terrorists would attack them?? I think that is far more interesting if you look deeply at it ;-)
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Weren't we, USA, donating money to Hamas/Palestinians et al... maybe they just think he is the frontrunner and they want some support against Israeli transgressions?

 

[Jaskalas]

Seems natural that if we inject ourselves into their affairs that they would pick the most favorable candidate in one of our races.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: dahunan
Remember when Cheney said that if you vote for Democrats that Osama/Terrorists would attack them?? I think that is far more interesting if you look deeply at it ;-)
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Weren't we, USA, donating money to Hamas/Palestinians et al... maybe they just think he is the frontrunner and they want some support against Israeli transgressions?

Maybe they'd get some support if they stopped the terrorism?

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Maybe they'd get some support if they stopped the terrorism?

Call them terrorists, and P&N will find posters to call them freedom fighters who act desperately against oppression.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Maybe they'd get some support if they stopped the terrorism?

Call them terrorists, and P&N will find posters to call them freedom fighters who act desperately against oppression.

Nah.. but I would say you have to look at our PREEMPTIVE attack against a whole country in some odd light not to see it as a sort of terrorism...

 

[RY62]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
http://www.washingtontimes.com.../NATION/334729180/1001

Since the other thread was locked :roll: lets see if there can be some discussion on this topic.

What I'm curious about(besides the curious timing of Carter's trip) is why Hamas would even take the time to inject themselves into our elections. Didn't they realize that they'd get a "rejection"....or is that what they wanted? To get him on record...

I was recently informed that the Washington Times is an "ultra-right rag, with no credibility whatsoever" so this can't be considered as news on the P&N forum. Please find another source. Preferably an ultra-left rag with absolutley no credibility whatsoever.

 

[Lemon law]

We can try to pretend terrorists are just totally evil characters who got tired of picking the wings off flies and now decide to torture their fellow human beings. Or we can realize that terrorists gain more credibility when moderates on both sides get driven out of the political discussions. Leaving nothing but hardliners on both sides driving the the political processes.

Until we can fairly look at the grievances on either side, threads like this are just more red raw meat to squabble over.

At least in my mind, Al-Quida still retains more than enough operational capacity to mount multiple attacks inside of the United States. Therefore the fact they are refraining from further attacks implies they are quite happy with our present course of bankrupting ourselves. Meanwhile just hanging a picture of GWB is all it takes to keep their recruiting halls filled with eager applicants.

And as long as we failed to address the root causes of terrorism which lie in social injustices of various societies including our own, any military war on terror is always doomed to fail. And worse yet, it takes our eyes off the ball on why we are failing in Iraq and Afghanistan. Because we are fighting the actual anarchy we created as we fail to build anything to replace it. And hence invite in a feudalism that empowers local home grown thugs.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Hamas is probably endorsing the candidate they don't want to win, in the hope that McCain will get elected for his "100 more years in Iraq."

Iraq is bleeding us of military, economic and political power and they might hope that our weakness will lead us to lower our support of Israel.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Hamas is probably endorsing the candidate they don't want to win, in the hope that McCain will get elected for his "100 more years in Iraq."

Iraq is bleeding us of military, economic and political power and they might hope that our weakness will lead us to lower our support of Israel.

Exactly. What reason would terrorist organizations have to exist if there was peace in the middle east? No doubt an outfit like Al Qaeda or Hamas would want McCain in power so they can have a raison d'etre and continue their ideological bullshit war that so many Americans have been duped into fighting. It's very simple logic that some people here have a hard time understanding. Think about it. Don't play by their rules like Bush has. We should play by our own.

 

[Vic]

Will bin Laden magically reappear out of hiding the day before the election again?

 

[Harvey]

Hamas' endorsement was an unsolicited. What makes anyone think they'd do it for any reason other than to yank the chains of a few mindless reactionary voters in an attempt to influence the election toward their own perceived objectives?

Hamas doesn't vote, here. The only way they can influence our elections is if enough Americans are stupid enough to let them do it.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: Vic
Will bin Laden magically reappear out of hiding the day before the election again?

No doubt. He might even endorse Obama.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: Vic
Will bin Laden magically reappear out of hiding the day before the election again?

If history is a predictor, certainly - we need to be scared - we need to vote republican.

 

[b0mbrman]

Hmmm...I understand that this is probably a trap, but I'll bite anyway.

Does Hamas like Obama because they believe he'll give Palestinians special treatment or because they believe he'll treat Palestinians fairly?

The only issue that matters to voters, of course, is whether or not there'll be more or less anti-American terrorism when extreme groups like Hamas actually like the American president...so...Will there be more terrorism because terrorists believe an Obama administration would turn a blind eye toward/appease terrorism? Or will there be less terrorism because they believe they could get a fair audience in the absence of terrorism?

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Hmmm...I understand that this is probably a trap, but I'll bite anyway.

Does Hamas like Obama because they believe he'll give Palestinians special treatment or because they believe he'll treat Palestinians fairly?

The only issue that matters to voters, of course, is whether or not there'll be more or less anti-American terrorism when extreme groups like Hamas actually like the American president...so...Will there be more terrorism because terrorists believe an Obama administration would turn a blind eye toward/appease terrorism? Or will there be less terrorism because they believe they could get a fair audience in the absence of terrorism?

Politics is like a game of chess - hard to imagine that it's not always for the good of the people.

Another scenario is that Hamas thinks their endorsement of a candidate (obama or any other non-arab) will actually hurt the candidate. Maybe they don't want any resolution offered by the u.s.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
http://www.washingtontimes.com.../NATION/334729180/1001

Since the other thread was locked :roll: lets see if there can be some discussion on this topic.

What I'm curious about(besides the curious timing of Carter's trip) is why Hamas would even take the time to inject themselves into our elections. Didn't they realize that they'd get a "rejection"....or is that what they wanted? To get him on record...

Since we hate them, and don't trust them, and don't believe them, why does anyone care?

I mean, people worry about who OBL would want as President, and we are trying to kill the guy.

Why would you pay attention to what your enemy wants? They could be making it up, lying, or anything else.

This is totally irrelevant.

 

[techs]

They may be terrorists, but they ain't stupid. They clearly know that if they endorse Obama it will actually hurt him and help McCain.
Seems the terrorists want the U.S. to self destruct under crushing deficits, corporate raping of the public treasury and outsourcing of U.S. jobs.
For Hamas, McCain is their wet dream. Second only to Bush.
Hamas is terrified of an intelligent foreign policy of political engagement and not military engagement with the Middle East.
And to have the U.S. led by a black man, well, Hamas and other terrorist organizations will have to explain how the racist Americans who want to kill Arabs because they are not white elected a black man.

 

[jpeyton]

The other thread was locked for a reason, and I don't see a bright future for this mudslinging thread either.

Troll, troll, troll your boat...

 

[Sacrilege]

Why only write his initials BHO in the title? Why not write the full Hussein out? You know you want to.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: RY62

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
http://www.washingtontimes.com.../NATION/334729180/1001

Since the other thread was locked :roll: lets see if there can be some discussion on this topic.

What I'm curious about(besides the curious timing of Carter's trip) is why Hamas would even take the time to inject themselves into our elections. Didn't they realize that they'd get a "rejection"....or is that what they wanted? To get him on record...

I was recently informed that the Washington Times is an "ultra-right rag, with no credibility whatsoever" so this can't be considered as news on the P&N forum.

It is; the Rev. Moon, its founder, created it for propaganda purposes for Republicans.

Please find another source. Preferably an ultra-left rag with absolutley no credibility whatsoever.

If there were any. It's gotten to the point where the basic facts are 'liberal'.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: dahunan
Remember when Cheney said that if you vote for Democrats that Osama/Terrorists would attack them?? I think that is far more interesting if you look deeply at it ;-)
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Weren't we, USA, donating money to Hamas/Palestinians et al... maybe they just think he is the frontrunner and they want some support against Israeli transgressions?

Maybe they'd get some support if they stopped the terrorism?

Bull. Just like Chechnya would get some support if they did. Just like the Vietnamese would have if they had. Just like our founding fathers would if they didn't use violence.

Of course Israel will make East Jerusalem the capital of a Palestenian state and end the oppressive treatment of the Palestenians as soon as they don't use terrorism.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: Sacrilege
Why only write his initials BHO in the title? Why not write the full Hussein out? You know you want to.

Hmm. BHO can be rearranged into HBO. Meaningful or coincidental?

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: Sacrilege
Why only write his initials BHO in the title? Why not write the full Hussein out? You know you want to.

Hmm. BHO can be rearranged into HBO. Meaningful or coincidental?

Speaking of anagrams, if you take his full name including HUSSEIN, rearrange the letters, and add/take away a few letters, it spells out "Secret Muslim."

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: Sacrilege
Why only write his initials BHO in the title? Why not write the full Hussein out? You know you want to.

Hmm. BHO can be rearranged into HBO. Meaningful or coincidental?

Speaking of anagrams, if you take his full name including HUSSEIN, rearrange the letters, and add/take away a few letters, it spells out "Secret Muslim."

How long did it take you to come up with that one?