Half-Life 2 Update Released
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"Here are a few suggestions for fixing the sound skipping problem.
1. Download the latest drivers for your video card.
2. Turn down (or off) anti-aliasing completely. Many cards should be defaulting to no AA.
3. Drop your video resolution down one step.
4. Drop texture level down one setting. This will slightly degrade the visual quality of the textures in the game."
ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?!?!?!
Bascially they're saying , "reduce your video card's performace so the game looks crappier, then get back to us."
Ummmm..... some of use just spent $400 on a video card.
1. Download the latest drivers for your video card.
2. Turn down (or off) anti-aliasing completely. Many cards should be defaulting to no AA.
3. Drop your video resolution down one step.
4. Drop texture level down one setting. This will slightly degrade the visual quality of the textures in the game."
ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?!?!?!
Bascially they're saying , "reduce your video card's performace so the game looks crappier, then get back to us."
Ummmm..... some of use just spent $400 on a video card.
I don't know if this has anything to do with this patch, but my main concern now is that timedemo is all fuX0red up.
If I run the same timedemo several times, I get wildly different results without changing any settings.
67, 48, 58....
Something got messed up with this patch, methinks.
I was using the at_coast_12 timedemo, for reference.
If I run the same timedemo several times, I get wildly different results without changing any settings.
67, 48, 58....
Something got messed up with this patch, methinks.
I was using the at_coast_12 timedemo, for reference.
Thats how its done folks. Valve has offered a patch quickly to solve a direct problem. It downloads and updates automatically upon running the game. How easier does it need to be? I love it.
problem is, it doesn't fix the problem... lol.
and in my case, it introduced the problem where none existed before!
and in my case, it introduced the problem where none existed before!
sandorski
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Well, if that's what is causing the problem, that's the solution. Sounds like the amount of Data going through the AGP bus is affecting the PCI throughput somehow. Or, the amount of CPU cycles required to keep the Vidcard fed is causing the Audio to not get processed properly.
pretty pointless considerig stream won't even work for me now. Valve really ****ed up with the release of this game.
erikistired
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for you perhaps. but for everyone else valve seems to have done a perfectly fine job.
edit: oh yeah, and the pirates who got banned.
btw, this belongs in software.
Yes, there has never been a time it hasn't been working for me. But obviously they did something wrong because you're not the only one to complain about problems with Steam.
apoppin
Lifer
i am running a 9800xt at 10x7, everything Maxed High (inc all reflections), with 2xAA and 8xAF and DO experience this issue when saving (only) . . . . it's annoying, but not enough to drop resolutions or texture settings (as FPS is satisfactory).
Since i am on dial-up, i always use Steam in the 'offline' mode - when i saw this, i immediately started in the auto-connect mode and it is downloading the patch automatically . . . . hope it works.
Personally i HATE the extra crap Steam requires . . . . i wouldn't do this for ANY other game (well, perhaps the Thief series - but thankfully, it isn't that popular).
:roll:
Originally posted by: apoppin
i am running a 9800xt at 10x7, everything Maxed High (inc all reflections), with 2xAA and 8xAF and DO experience this issue when saving (only) . . . . it's annoying, but not enough to drop resolutions or texture settings (as FPS is satisfactory).
hehe, i one-upped ya bro... i did the whole Nova Prospekt level at 11x8, 4xAA, 8xAF ... everything was "fine" until that damn patch installed yesterday... ;(
running through the same level which was "fine" before the patch is now giving less fps after the patch... what a bunch of *(?&(*? ... :/
hopefully valve will reverse this "patch", in the next "patch"... lol
oh yes, and :roll:
still at 440/375.
apoppin
Lifer
Originally posted by: LocutusX
Originally posted by: apoppin
i am running a 9800xt at 10x7, everything Maxed High (inc all reflections), with 2xAA and 8xAF and DO experience this issue when saving (only) . . . . it's annoying, but not enough to drop resolutions or texture settings (as FPS is satisfactory).
hehe, i one-upped ya bro... i did the whole Nova Prospekt level at 11x8, 4xAA, 8xAF ... everything was "fine" until that damn patch installed yesterday... ;(
running through the same level which was "fine" before the patch is now giving less fps after the patch... what a bunch of *(?&(*? ... :/
hopefully valve will reverse this "patch", in the next "patch"... lol
oh yes, and :roll:
still at 440/375.
Well, i tried it . . . .
the STUTTER is STILL there . . . . HOWEVER,
1) it is MUCH (much) reduced
2) 'saves' are quicker
and, BEST of all . . ..
3) . . . . i bumped my resolution UP to 11x8 with no (noticeable) loss of FPS . . . . still at 2xAA/8xAF (few jaggies, i am happy) . . . . i haven't seen any need for V-synch (it is rare to see ANY tearing).
All this on a 'stock' ($223) 9800xt (P4@3.31Ghz/1GB PC3500).
[loading levels still takes awhile]
the more i play HL2, the more i think Doom III sucks . . . . (and i thought it sucked bad, already)
:roll:
apoppin, HL2 is far superior to Doom, you're not alone on that one!
even the guy at Staples when I bought HL2 was ranting on how much Doom3 was a piece of trash... haha
even the guy at Staples when I bought HL2 was ranting on how much Doom3 was a piece of trash... haha
StrangerGuy
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I never encountered with any stuttering issues in HL2. Using 9800 Pro and Cat 4.11. Now on Ravenholm, those aliens are very scary and move very fast .
And yes HL2 is much, much better than D3.
.And yes HL2 is much, much better than D3.
HL2 definitely > Doom 3. I don't think that means Doom 3 is neccesarily bad though.
I enjoyed Doom 3. Carmack and Co had basically told us they were making Doom AGAIN (they'd already made like 5, and tried to confuse people by calling them "quake"), but this time it would be very, very pretty. They told us we would be tromping through metal hallways shooting demons in some very nice lighting, and that was what I was expecting. That was what I got.
On the other hand, Doom 3 got way too much praise from the industry. It was maybe an 8/10. Half-Life 2 is a 9.5/10
Half-Life 2 just has more "awesome" moments that make you want to stand up out of your chair and shout "hell yeah!". Plus, I prefer the path Valve has taken with their engine, focusing on subtle improvements. The shaders of Half-Life 2 look much better to me, especially the specular. Everything in Doom 3 looked laminated. Half-Life 2's dull sheen on concrete, or blooming light glowing through a window, or subtle sheen on skin looks far better to me than Doom 3's realtime shadows.
All told, I'm of the school that bought them both and enjoyed them both. I think one is clearly the superior game, but that's not to say the other was terrible....
I enjoyed Doom 3. Carmack and Co had basically told us they were making Doom AGAIN (they'd already made like 5, and tried to confuse people by calling them "quake"), but this time it would be very, very pretty. They told us we would be tromping through metal hallways shooting demons in some very nice lighting, and that was what I was expecting. That was what I got.
On the other hand, Doom 3 got way too much praise from the industry. It was maybe an 8/10. Half-Life 2 is a 9.5/10
Half-Life 2 just has more "awesome" moments that make you want to stand up out of your chair and shout "hell yeah!". Plus, I prefer the path Valve has taken with their engine, focusing on subtle improvements. The shaders of Half-Life 2 look much better to me, especially the specular. Everything in Doom 3 looked laminated. Half-Life 2's dull sheen on concrete, or blooming light glowing through a window, or subtle sheen on skin looks far better to me than Doom 3's realtime shadows.
All told, I'm of the school that bought them both and enjoyed them both. I think one is clearly the superior game, but that's not to say the other was terrible....
apoppin
Lifer
i'll say it then . . . . Doom III was TERRIBLE.
:roll:
:thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:
Doom iii was horriblly repetitive - a boring a 'one note horror opera' brayed endlessly. . . It was LINEAR - boringly linear - beyond belief. The Soul Cube made it stupidly easy. . . . It was dark. . . . (what is that crap w/o a light/gun?). . . The ending sucked - BAD - up 'till now, i NEVER beat the end boss in a single try . . . . The PDA 'notes' were a stupid 'innovation' that took you OUT of the game (not necessarily 'bad' for such a crap game). . . . The horror "atmosphere" was "Boo!" (CONTRAST this with the masterpiece of horror; Thief - Deadly Shadows, Shalebridge level or even HL2's 'scares'.) Doom iii boasts ZERO replay value.
Doom iii is the first game i sold immediately after i completed it . . . . . . . . id can go to hell.
After playing 1/3-1/2 way thru HL/2, i am dropping my personal Doom iii's rating to 2.5 out of 10 (i guess the '3' i gave it was 'generous') :shocked:
Why didn't id just makeover Doom & Doom II - exactly - except with better gfx?
:roll:
I wondered why I was getting stuttering and slowdowns sometimes with 2xAA turned on - texture thrashing. Sigh.
MegaWorks
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Originally posted by: apoppin
i'll say it then . . . . Doom III was TERRIBLE.
:roll:
:thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:
Doom iii was horriblly repetitive - a boring a 'one note horror opera' brayed endlessly. . . It was LINEAR - boringly linear - beyond belief. The Soul Cube made it stupidly easy. . . . It was dark. . . . (what is that crap w/o a light/gun?). . . The ending sucked - BAD - up 'till now, i NEVER beat the end boss in a single try . . . . The PDA 'notes' were a stupid 'innovation' that took you OUT of the game (not necessarily 'bad' for such a crap game). . . . The horror "atmosphere" was "Boo!" (CONTRAST this with the masterpiece of horror; Thief - Deadly Shadows, Shalebridge level or even HL2's 'scares'.) Doom iii boasts ZERO replay value.
. . . . id can go to hell.
After playing 1/3-1/2 way thru HL/2, i am dropping my personal Doom iii's rating to 2.5 out of 10 (i guess the '3' i gave it was 'generous') :shocked:
Why didn't id just makeover Doom & Doom II - exactly - except with better gfx?
:roll:
:thumbsup:Originally posted by: MegaWorks
Originally posted by: apoppin
i'll say it then . . . . Doom III was TERRIBLE.
:roll:
:thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:
Doom iii was horriblly repetitive - a boring a 'one note horror opera' brayed endlessly. . . It was LINEAR - boringly linear - beyond belief. The Soul Cube made it stupidly easy. . . . It was dark. . . . (what is that crap w/o a light/gun?). . . The ending sucked - BAD - up 'till now, i NEVER beat the end boss in a single try . . . . The PDA 'notes' were a stupid 'innovation' that took you OUT of the game (not necessarily 'bad' for such a crap game). . . . The horror "atmosphere" was "Boo!" (CONTRAST this with the masterpiece of horror; Thief - Deadly Shadows, Shalebridge level or even HL2's 'scares'.) Doom iii boasts ZERO replay value.
. . . . id can go to hell.
After playing 1/3-1/2 way thru HL/2, i am dropping my personal Doom iii's rating to 2.5 out of 10 (i guess the '3' i gave it was 'generous') :shocked:
Why didn't id just makeover Doom & Doom II - exactly - except with better gfx?
:roll:
There is a Doom 3 mod being made that remakes the original Doom. Probably be more fun than doom 3 too.
Id is basically just concerned with making graphics engines. Their actual games are an afterthought.
apoppin
Lifer
yep, it felt more like an super-extendo gfx engine demoOriginally posted by: Sureshot324
Originally posted by: MegaWorks
Originally posted by: apoppin
i'll say it then . . . . Doom III was TERRIBLE.
:roll:
:thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:
Doom iii was horriblly repetitive - a boring a 'one note horror opera' brayed endlessly. . . It was LINEAR - boringly linear - beyond belief. The Soul Cube made it stupidly easy. . . . It was dark. . . . (what is that crap w/o a light/gun?). . . The ending sucked - BAD - up 'till now, i NEVER beat the end boss in a single try . . . . The PDA 'notes' were a stupid 'innovation' that took you OUT of the game (not necessarily 'bad' for such a crap game). . . . The horror "atmosphere" was "Boo!" (CONTRAST this with the masterpiece of horror; Thief - Deadly Shadows, Shalebridge level or even HL2's 'scares'.) Doom iii boasts ZERO replay value.
. . . . id can go to hell.
After playing 1/3-1/2 way thru HL/2, i am dropping my personal Doom iii's rating to 2.5 out of 10 (i guess the '3' i gave it was 'generous') :shocked:
Why didn't id just makeover Doom & Doom II - exactly - except with better gfx?
:roll:
There is a Doom 3 mod being made that remakes the original Doom. Probably be more fun than doom 3 too.
Id is basically just concerned with making graphics engines. Their actual games are an afterthought.
(that i paid ~$40 for) :|
NEVER again! for Doom anything. . . . well, years (maybe) and a LOT (i mean a lot) of super-positive reviews.
Why would ANYone even BOTHER with the crap that is Doom iii when such superior games are out (i.e. HL2)
:roll:
:thumbsdown:
i am all 'for' a really creative company using the Doom iii engine, however.
. . . .ANYway, back ONtopic, the patch has helped my stutter and allowed me to raise my rez (deep into ravenholm). . . . the 256MB vRAM of the Radeon9800xt is helping it a bit overcome the stutter the regular 128MB Pro suffers from (i guess).
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