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Haley Barbour pardons murderer two weeks after being denied parole.

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CallMeJoe said:
Had you actually read the linked list rather than just knee-jerked an attempt at an attack on the president, you might have noted that all 22 had long since completed their sentences.

Are you really that outraged that Ronald Lee Foster was pardoned for having mutilated coins? In 1963?
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Who was outraged? I think that both Barbour and Obama are scum, i'll even toss in 2 scum Bush's for free.
 
monovillage said:
Who was outraged? I think that both Barbour and Obama are scum, i'll even toss in 2 scum Bush's for free.
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My bad.
When you explicitly compare the pardon of paroled coin abusers from five decades past with that of currently imprisoned murderers I naturally infer that you are a truly impassioned numismatist.
 
HAL9000 said:
Why?! Was any reason given?!
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None except for this:

While Barbour's office hasn't responded to messages about the pardons, he told the AP for a 2008 story that releasing the trusties who live and work at the mansion is a tradition in Mississippi that goes back decades. Trusties are prisoners who earn privileges through good behavior.
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I can't believe anyone hasn't addressed this: how did it come to be that FOUR people who worked at the governor's mansion went on to become murderers?! WTF kind of people do they hire??! In my life, I've worked at companies with thousands of others - NOT ONCE has a coworker gone on to become a murderer.
 
Apparently this custom has been going on at least for decades, nearly all murderers. I wonder what the recidivism numbers are for the pardoned people.

There is an odd idea about mercy and justice it seems in the south which appears harsher much of the time and then softer here.

It does raise a question, about how while the crimes are heinous and 'society deserves to be protected', it's quite plausible many even murderers can reform.

Ultimately it's arbitrary to declare that 'justice' is some setence whether execution or 10 years in prison or 50 years in prison.
 
CallMeJoe said:
My bad.
When you explicitly compare the pardon of paroled coin abusers from five decades past with that of currently imprisoned murderers I naturally infer that you are a truly impassioned numismatist.
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I really wanted to compare the fact that Governors and Presidents can pardon convicted criminals for a variety of reasons. Sometimes those reasons have old presidents faces on them, other times is about political power, favors or perhaps cover-ups. You'd have to be naive to think Barbour/Obama/Bush/Clinton/Bush etc. gave all those pardons and expected nothing in return.
 
DrPizza said:
I can't believe anyone hasn't addressed this: how did it come to be that FOUR people who worked at the governor's mansion went on to become murderers?! WTF kind of people do they hire??! In my life, I've worked at companies with thousands of others - NOT ONCE has a coworker gone on to become a murderer.
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Errr...Doc...they worked at the governor's mansion as prison trustees...they were convicted murders BEFORE they got those jobs.

I see that one of the guys he pardoned was Brett Favre's brother...(cleared his record...was not ever actually in prison)

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-barbourpardons-favresbrother

Outgoing Miss. guv pardons Brett Favre’s brother

JACKSON, Miss. (AP)—The brother of former NFL quarterback and Mississippi native Brett Favre has been pardoned by Haley Barbour, whose last day as governor was Tuesday.

State records released Tuesday show Earnest Scott Favre had his record cleared in the 1996 death of his best friend, Mark Haverty. Scott Favre was among dozens of people pardoned or given early release in Barbour’s final days in office. The Republican left office Tuesday, at the end of his second term.

Favre had driven in front of a train in Pass Christian while drunk. He pleaded guilty in 1997 and was sentenced to a year of house arrest followed by two years’ probation.

Calls went unanswered Tuesday to a listing for a Scott Favre.

Brett Favre was a standout at Southern Miss turning pro.
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The one piece of information I can't seem to find is how close were any of these people to being paroled anyway? I mean, if he just shaved a year or two off their sentences then this becomes a little more understandable.
 
A pardon clears your record...it never happened. Pardon a child molester and they can work at a daycare center...
 
tydas said:
The one piece of information I can't seem to find is how close were any of these people to being paroled anyway? I mean, if he just shaved a year or two off their sentences then this becomes a little more understandable.
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One of them had recently been denied parole.
 
As far as reasons go, Barbour said that he wanted convicted liars, who normally can't get things like financial services licenses, to be able to get licensed again and he wanted killers to be able to buy guns to "hunt" again.
 
I know this is a crazy thought and not inline with the standard US thinking of prisoners, but not everyone in prison is a bad person who deserves to be there forever.
 
sactoking said:
As far as reasons go, Barbour said that he wanted convicted liars, who normally can't get things like financial services licenses, to be able to get licensed again and he wanted killers to be able to buy guns to "hunt" again.
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Is this a joke? Do you have a source for this if not?
 
CitizenKain said:
I know this is a crazy thought and not inline with the standard US thinking of prisoners, but not everyone in prison is a bad person who deserves to be there forever.
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Nobody has said that 'everyone in prison is a bad person who deserves to be there forever.'
 
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