HAHA: Now you need to register your drone. Why people cant have nice things.

[Hugo Drax]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...4961be-7664-11e5-a958-d889faf561dc_story.html

Yup like a gun. Who knows what other laws will get put in place.


This is what happens when douchebags with drones think they can just fly these next to airplanes etc.. This is why people cant have nice things, always have to screw it up by being stupid with drones.

 

[Jaskalas]

The specific threats to airports made this necessary.
Although it won't stop a criminal, if the general public doesn't dare fly their drone over restricted space... that's a start.

Immunity? No. Reduction of occurrences? Yes.
Worth it?

 

[Atomic Playboy]

What exactly is the argument against this policy apart from "it will cost taxpayer money to implement"? Will it be effective at keeping people from flying drones in restricted airspace? Will it allow for identification of offenders? If it does both, then what's the issue?

 

[Hugo Drax]

I predict the following.

Department of Drone Enforcement.

Your gonna have the DDE Czar in charge of this new department.
Offices in every large city with the following.
Directors, IT staff to manage the network/computers, DDE logistics departments etc.. Enforcement agents, Special vehicles with SIGINT/RDF equipment, lots of people working in cubicles to process registration etc..

Its gonna be big and its gonna be wide. Get ready, and like a python the rules will get more onerous as people keep screwing up.

Eventually all drones will require transponders, which will require new satellites launched to monitor these drones and report back to special ground stations that will send kill/self destruct messages to drones when they violate.

 

[Blackjack200]

Yup like a gun. Who knows what other laws will get put in place.


This is what happens when douchebags with drones think they can just fly these next to airplanes etc.. This is why people cant have nice things, always have to screw it up by being stupid with drones.

When guns on drones are illegal, only criminals will have guns on their drones.

 

[rudder]

The specific threats to airports made this necessary.
Although it won't stop a criminal, if the general public doesn't dare fly their drone over restricted space... that's a start.

Immunity? No. Reduction of occurrences? Yes.
Worth it?

Eventually drones could be used for nefarious reasons against an airplane... I think a lot of it now is douche bags trying to get impressive video of a plane landing. A small drone striking a wing at 160 mph... hopefully just shattered plastic... but if one gets sucked in an engine that will be an expensive mess for an airline.

 

[shira]

What exactly is the argument against this policy apart from "it will cost taxpayer money to implement"? Will it be effective at keeping people from flying drones in restricted airspace? Will it allow for identification of offenders? If it does both, then what's the issue?

The new laws/regulations aren't on the books yet, so it's much too early to determine what the net cost to the taxpayer will be (a registration-fee regimen could be imposed, for example, that covers all or a fraction of the cost of administering this new program).

It's also much too early to know how effective the new regulations will be in reducing unauthorized flights of personal drones. But it's unreasonable to expect that ALL unauthorized flights will be eliminated.

 

[Venix]

What exactly is the argument against this policy apart from "it will cost taxpayer money to implement"? Will it be effective at keeping people from flying drones in restricted airspace? Will it allow for identification of offenders? If it does both, then what's the issue?

How would it allow for identification of offenders? Even if a drone crashes in restricted airspace and is found by the government, there's typically no way to determine who owns it.

I could see the registration process potentially helping to educate drone owners who might otherwise violate the rules out of ignorance, but it will do nothing to prevent intentional violations. Even if most violations are committed out of ignorance, there are certainly better education options than a federal drone registry. This seems like a waste of time and money.

 

[Genx87]

How would it allow for identification of offenders? Even if a drone crashes in restricted airspace and is found by the government, there's typically no way to determine who owns it.

I could see the registration process potentially helping to educate drone owners who might otherwise violate the rules out of ignorance, but it will do nothing to prevent intentional violations. Even if most violations are committed out of ignorance, there are certainly better education options than a federal drone registry. This seems like a waste of time and money.

This is the federal govt. Of course it is going to be a waste of time and money. People wont register. If they force a registration at the time of purchase that will require a new department to track millions of drone purchases. In the end they will create a new layer ofr bullshit, employ a bunch of people, and accomplish nothing.

 

[trenchfoot]

When guns on drones are illegal, only criminals will have guns on their drones.

I was just thinking about that fella who armed his drone with a pistol. That opens up a whole new genre of weapons platforms, especially when live streaming video is in the package.

From Butch's thread in OT:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqHrTtvFFIs

 

[Newell Steamer]

Next up; people who throw rocks at drones have to register their rocks.

I use to hate on the people who wanted to take down personal drones - now, I love them for shooting at the suckers and demanding nothing short of nuclear strike on the drone owner's home be launched.

Dronists are assholes*.


*Just the one who ruined it for the good ones - sorry, certain # of your fellow hobbyists have botched things up.

 

[IGBT]

the same morons that are out there with lasers and blinding aircraft now have drones.

 

[OutHouse]

Yup like a gun. Who knows what other laws will get put in place.

no idea but i dont have to register my guns.

 

[master_shake_]

incoming wave of YADT...

wow. this is awesome.

 

[Bitek]

So guns are used to murder 20 first graders, and 30,000 other people a year, but nothing happens.

Some idiots fly into sporting events and forest fires and now we have a federal registry. :roll:

Hobbyists should mount glocks instead of go pros and claim 2nd amendment rights are being infringed.

 

[Strk]

So guns are used to murder 20 first graders, and 30,000 other people a year, but nothing happens.

Some idiots fly into sporting events and forest fires and now we have a federal registry. :roll:

Hobbyists should mount glocks instead of go pros and claim 2nd amendment rights are being infringed.

Makes perfect sense

 

[master_shake_]

So guns are used to murder 20 first graders, and 30,000 other people a year, but nothing happens.

Some idiots fly into sporting events and forest fires and now we have a federal registry. :roll:

Hobbyists should mount glocks instead of go pros and claim 2nd amendment rights are being infringed.

it's not like they didn't try.

just everyone in power said fuck you and that was that.

don't you remember?

that was the one time that think of the children didn't work.

and the only time they didn't give up liberty for security.

 

[Greenman]

I predict the following.

Department of Drone Enforcement.

Your gonna have the DDE Czar in charge of this new department.
Offices in every large city with the following.
Directors, IT staff to manage the network/computers, DDE logistics departments etc.. Enforcement agents, Special vehicles with SIGINT/RDF equipment, lots of people working in cubicles to process registration etc..

Its gonna be big and its gonna be wide. Get ready, and like a python the rules will get more onerous as people keep screwing up.

Eventually all drones will require transponders, which will require new satellites launched to monitor these drones and report back to special ground stations that will send kill/self destruct messages to drones when they violate.

This is called government. This is how it works. If you look at as a cancer, it's much easier to understand.

 

[Vic]

This is called government. This is how it works. If you look at as a cancer, it's much easier to understand.

All laws exist because people act badly. If they didn't, there wouldn't be any need for laws.

 

[BoberFett]

All laws exist because people act badly. If they didn't, there wouldn't be any need for laws.

You're adorable.

 

[Preyhunter]

You're adorable.

That response is so Swansonish (or Swansony...not sure which?). That's why you remain so awesome after all of these years.

Back on topic, are these drones going to have N numbers? If so, how it that going to help a pilot identify it? The number would be so small on a drone that it would have to ride on the windshield of the airliner for several seconds in order for a pilot to call it in.

"Tower, I just saw a drone in restricted airspace."
"What is the registration number?"
"Umm, it was at least 50 yards away and I flew by it at 350 knots. I haven't the slightest fucking clue."
"Roger. Disregard and get those passengers on the ground."

That did a ton of fucking good.

There is technology available that will render a radio controlled vehicle inoperable within a restricted airspace. Implement that shit. The whole issue of cellphones and wireless tablets and shit messing with cockpit instrumentation? All of it is anecdotal. There is no scientific proof that any of it is true. Still, the govt won't risk a "told you so" scenario.

 

[OverVolt]

When guns on drones are illegal, only criminals will have guns on their drones.

Its not sharks with frikin lazer beams on their foreheads but it'll do.

 

[Paratus]

If the registration is free and easy and reasonable I'm fine with it.

• It should be done on-line.
• The most it should cost is the price of some stickers to retrofit a drone "tail number".
• New drones should be sold with identifying numbers if required.
• Toys should be exempt. (Nano copters definitely). I could see allowing 2KG or so to be exempt but would understand if they weren't.

I could live with that amount of regulation.

 

[DCal430]

So guns are used to murder 20 first graders, and 30,000 other people a year, but nothing happens.

Some idiots fly into sporting events and forest fires and now we have a federal registry. :roll:

Hobbyists should mount glocks instead of go pros and claim 2nd amendment rights are being infringed.

It wasn't just some idiots flying into a forest fire, it was people with drones intentionally blocking fire fighters from putting out major fires leading to significant increase in damage and possible loss of life.

 

[DCal430]

That response is so Swansonish (or Swansony...not sure which?). That's why you remain so awesome after all of these years.

Back on topic, are these drones going to have N numbers? If so, how it that going to help a pilot identify it? The number would be so small on a drone that it would have to ride on the windshield of the airliner for several seconds in order for a pilot to call it in.

"Tower, I just saw a drone in restricted airspace."
"What is the registration number?"
"Umm, it was at least 50 yards away and I flew by it at 350 knots. I haven't the slightest fucking clue."
"Roger. Disregard and get those passengers on the ground."

That did a ton of fucking good.

There is technology available that will render a radio controlled vehicle inoperable within a restricted airspace. Implement that shit. The whole issue of cellphones and wireless tablets and shit messing with cockpit instrumentation? All of it is anecdotal. There is no scientific proof that any of it is true. Still, the govt won't risk a "told you so" scenario.

It has nothing to do with the radio interfering with the aircraft, it has to do with the drones colliding with the propeller or turbine and causing a crash.