Haha, I got an annulment, what a knee slapper!

Riprorin

Banned
Apr 25, 2000
9,634
0
0
At least Kerry has a sense of humor, albeit a warped one:

Kerry joked about his annulment

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Posted: March 26, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern

John Kerry must have a very unusual sense of humor.

He didn't think there was anything funny about President Bush's joke about looking under tables for weapons of mass destruction. In fact, he claims to be personally offended by the barb tossed out at a media correspondents' dinner this week.

Imagine that.

However, a few years ago, Kerry yucked it up himself with "Imus in the Morning" over a subject much more personal and ? to many, especially Catholics ? much more offensive.

Kerry joked about the annulment of his first marriage ? one that lasted 18 years and produced two children.

Now that's funny, right?

In May 1997, Kerry appeared on Don Imus' nationally syndicated radio show and, according to the Boston Globe, "opened up for the first time about his decision to seek an annulment of his first marriage, jokingly describing annulment as 'one of those special Catholic things.'"

"Seventy-five percent of all the annulments in the world take place in the United States, and I guess the figure drops to 50 percent if you take out all Massachusetts' politicians," he said.

They say humor only works if it is based on some truth ? and there is certainly some truth to the fact that Massachusetts' politicians seem to get preferential treatment by the Catholic Church when it comes to annulments.

But is an annulment of an 18-year, child-bearing marriage a joking matter?

Kerry was alluding to the high-profile annulment granted to Rep. Joe Kennedy in 1993 for his 12-year marriage to Sheila Rauch Kennedy. His wife was so angered by the annulment, she filed an appeal to Rome and wrote a book, "Shattered Faith," that assails the Church practice.

Kerry has kept the grounds for this annulment secret. But, since he considers it something of a joking matter, why not make his rationale public? After all, he doesn't want to have any secrets from the American people, does he? How does he justify pretending a marriage that lasted 18 years and produced two children never happened?

And what can you say about those in the Catholic Church who would grant such an annulment?

Kerry says he believes in the Church's teachings on key issues ? like abortion and marriage. But, he adds: "I believe in the Church and I care about it enormously. But I think that it's important to not have the Church instructing politicians. That is an inappropriate crossing of the line in America."

He says it's just not appropriate for him to legislate based on his personal beliefs.

So, apparently, for all these years, Kerry has been legislating contrary to his personal beliefs!

He may indeed be for tax cuts. He may indeed be for destroying the terrorists. He may indeed be opposed to all these government spending programs he has voted to create.

You see, this is a man who votes contrary to his personal beliefs. So, we don't know the real Kerry!

In fact, maybe when he is criticizing the president for joking about weapons of mass destruction, he's not telling us what he really thinks. Perhaps personally he considers it funny, but publicly he doesn't.

In other words, this is a man who makes up the rules as he goes along.

He believes in the Church and its rules, but he violates them and seeks special privilege and exemption from them. He believes in the Church and its rules, but he votes opposite of what the Church teaches as a U.S. senator.

This is not a guy who should be granted special dispensation by the Church. He should be ex-communicated.

Just exactly what does John Kerry's faith mean to him? How does it affect his life? He doesn't practice it personally or publicly.

What will this mean to Catholics ? and others ? who do take their faith seriously?

Link
 

Perknose

Forum Director & Omnipotent Overlord
Forum Director
Oct 9, 1999
46,932
10,810
147
This is not a guy who should be granted special dispensation by the Church. He should be ex-communicated.
The Church OBVIOUSLY disagrees with you, so STFU.

Face it, you ain't the Pope of anyone.
 

Riprorin

Banned
Apr 25, 2000
9,634
0
0
Originally posted by: Perknose
This is not a guy who should be granted special dispensation by the Church. He should be ex-communicated.
The Church OBVIOUSLY disagrees with you, so STFU.

Face it, you ain't the Pope of anyone.

Do some research on the church's teaching on abortion and you'll understand the comment about ex-communication.
 

Siddhartha

Lifer
Oct 17, 1999
12,505
3
81
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
You had to dig deep for this one. Is this really a big deal for you?

Yup.

Will the Republicans try to use this to divert attention away from the Iraqi war and occupation?
 

Riprorin

Banned
Apr 25, 2000
9,634
0
0
Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
You had to dig deep for this one. Is this really a big deal for you?

Yup.

Will the Republicans will try to use this to divert attention away from the Iraqi war and occupation?

Got me, I'm not a Republican and the Republican party hasn't confered with me.

What does this have to do with the war in Iraq anyway?
 

Strk

Lifer
Nov 23, 2003
10,197
4
76
Kerry says he believes in the Church's teachings on key issues ? like abortion and marriage. But, he adds: "I believe in the Church and I care about it enormously. But I think that it's important to not have the Church instructing politicians. That is an inappropriate crossing of the line in America."

He says it's just not appropriate for him to legislate based on his personal beliefs.

What a jerk! I mean, the nerve, representing the people who elected him and not the Vatican.
 

nutxo

Diamond Member
May 20, 2001
6,834
515
126
Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
You had to dig deep for this one. Is this really a big deal for you?

Yup.

Will the Republicans will try to use this to divert attention away from the Iraqi war and occupation?


I doubt that, but it is kind of curious.
 

Siddhartha

Lifer
Oct 17, 1999
12,505
3
81
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
You had to dig deep for this one. Is this really a big deal for you?

Yup.

Will the Republicans will try to use this to divert attention away from the Iraqi war and occupation?

Got me, I'm not a Republican and the Republican party hasn't confered with me.

What does this have to do with the war in Iraq anyway?

What?
 

Riprorin

Banned
Apr 25, 2000
9,634
0
0
Originally posted by: Strk
Kerry says he believes in the Church's teachings on key issues ? like abortion and marriage. But, he adds: "I believe in the Church and I care about it enormously. But I think that it's important to not have the Church instructing politicians. That is an inappropriate crossing of the line in America."

He says it's just not appropriate for him to legislate based on his personal beliefs.

What a jerk! I mean, the nerve, representing the people who elected him and not the Vatican.

I guess that you believe in double-standards.


Kerry?s Dirty Deeds By George Neumayr
Published 3/30/2004 12:08:37 AM

John F. Kerry is a more checkered Catholic than the first JFK. Unlike Kennedy who had some residual sense of respect for the Church, Kerry uses his Catholicism as a campaign prop while sabotaging its teachings. The irony of Kerry's Sunday sermon on George Bush's faith -- visiting a Baptist Church Kerry used scripture to suggest Bush has "faith but has no deeds" -- is that the verse describes the spin Kerry usually places on his own religion. He claims the Catholic faith but insists it should not influence his public deeds.

"What good is it, my brothers, if a man claims to have faith but has no deeds?" said Kerry, citing James 2:14. It is a question Kerry has yet to answer: What good is a politician who makes a show of his Catholic faith while casting votes in favor of the abortion of unborn children?

Kerry is an advocate of empty faith. He justifies the blatant contradiction between his Catholicism and his voting record on the grounds that his faith should not drive his deeds.

Kerry rebuked Pope John Paul II last year for urging Catholic politicians to produce public deeds worthy of the moral teachings of their Church. Kerry said he would disregard the Pope's statement. "I believe in the Church and care about it enormously," he said. "But I think that it's important to not have the Church instructing politicians. That is an inappropriate crossing of the line in America. President Kennedy drew that line very clearly in 1960 and I believe we need to stand up for that line today."

Kerry stands up for the "line" between religion and public life, then crosses it himself when he sees a chance to use Catholicism for political purposes. The third line of the biography on his campaign website reads, "John Kerry was raised in the Catholic faith and continues to be an active member of the Catholic Church." On Ash Wednesday Kerry made sure to emerge from a Catholic Church with ash on his head while photographers snapped their cameras. Last week The American Spectator's Washington Prowler reported that Kerry, outfitted outrageously in ski gear, barged into a Catholic Church to receive communion for another photo-op.

Kerry also uses Catholicism -- that is, a twisted semblance of Catholicism -- to advance his liberal agenda. On abortion, Kerry says that his faith is irrelevant. On left-wing economic issues, however, his liberal understanding of his faith suddenly becomes very public. Kerry says the Pope shouldn't instruct politicians, yet in the 1980s he inserted into the Congressional Record the American Catholic bishops' ill-advised pastoral letter against Reaganomics. Kerry called the quasi-socialist U.S. bishops' pastoral letter on the economy "an important document which should be read by Catholics and non-Catholics alike."

When Kerry sponsored the federal Gay & Lesbian Civil Rights Bill in the 1980s, he noted that the "National Federation of Priests' Councils" supported the "inclusion of the term 'sexual orientation' in existing civil rights laws."


Kerry doesn't mind if heretical prelates influence politics. Kerry even urges them to get into politics. Early in his political career Kerry passed up a congressional seat out of deference to Robert Drinan, the Jesuit congressman who supported Roe v. Wade. And then there was Kerry's campaigning for "Father Aristide." In 1994 he helped the defrocked priest return to power in Haiti, calling him "Father Aristide" in an attempt to gin up U.S. sympathy for the Marxist thug. Aristide was no priest -- the Vatican took his collar away after he descended into violent activism -- but that didn't stop Kerry from casting him as a benign "Father."

A product of Jesuit Boston College law school, Kerry absorbed the modern Jesuit enthusiasm for "liberation theology." This is evident in his apologetics work for "Father Aristide." Kerry bitterly accuses Republicans of persecuting Aristide for his "liberation theology." For this reason he rushed to Aristide's defense -- "Father Aristide may not be perfect (what elected leader is?)," he has written -- despite knowing that the cashiered priest is an inciter of "necklacing," the practice of throwing flaming tires around his opponents' heads.

There has been much talk about the dereliction of the Boston archdiocese. But it goes beyond abuse cases. It also shows itself in the relative silence from the chancery about the Kennedys and Kerrys who use their Catholic faith in elections then traduce it after winning them. Boston's Archbishop Sean O'Malley, the highly regarded successor to Cardinal Law, could stop Kerry's charade, and the candidate himself has just given him an opening. The bishop could turn Kerry's questioning of Bush's hollow faith on Kerry.


George Neumayr is managing editor of The American Spectator.

Link
 

przero

Platinum Member
Dec 30, 2000
2,060
0
0
Kerry should read Mark 10:9, before he goes to the pulpit to quote Scriptures.
 

PELarson

Platinum Member
Mar 27, 2001
2,289
0
0
Yup... making light of a "church" approved annulment which has no signifcance in any place other than that "church" is on a par with making light of not finding WMD which has cost the US of A 600+ dead!

 

0roo0roo

No Lifer
Sep 21, 2002
64,795
84
91
just remember, what would jesus do? he would give the majority of tax cuts to the rich, while not funding programs for children like "no child left behind" :) and of course, he'd spend like crazy during a deficit, and make sure those poor rich people don't have to be taxed by the estate tax when passing their money to lazy rich children. go aristocracy!! he'd also take another mans spot in the national guard through abuse of power by papa and have another man drafted in his stead, cuz principals is principals:) jesus is republican for sure!

 

Siddhartha

Lifer
Oct 17, 1999
12,505
3
81
Originally posted by: PELarson
Yup... making light of a "church" approved annulment which has no signifcance in any place other than that "church" is on a par with making light of not finding WMD which has cost the US of A 600+ dead!

Yeah the OP needs to rethink his priorities.
 

biostud

Lifer
Feb 27, 2003
20,155
7,277
136
Personally I think that there's quite a difference between making a joke about your private life and a joke about starting a war in search of WMD which will have influence of millions of people, and specially those families WHO HAVE LOST A FAMILY MEMBER!!!!!!

Get your proportions right.