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Hague warns Israel over military action on Iran

JEDIYoda

JEDIYoda

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More posturing....
Hague needs to get some cahones and say what he means.!! The US is afraid that Iran can close the strait and there make what warships are trapped sitting targets. Plus he is also saying Iran is crazy enough if they had nuclear weapons to use them.

Even though we dropped atomic bombs on Japan -- lives were saved and many students of ww2 would actually claim we would still be fighting that war.....possibly.....


http://news.yahoo.com/hague-warns-israel-over-military-action-iran-000012066.html

Foreign Secretary William Hague said Sunday that Israel would not be "wise" to attack Iran over its disputed nuclear programme, saying it should give the diplomatic route a chance to succeed.

Speaking in the wake of attacks on Israeli diplomats blamed on agents of Tehran, Hague said the Islamic republic "has increased in its willingness to contemplate utterly illegal activities in other parts of the world". -- basically Hague is saying it`s not wise because Iran is run by wacckkos who if they had nuclear weapons would lash out at Israel!!

But he told BBC television: "I don't think the wise thing at this moment is for Israel to launch a military attack on Iran.

"I think Israel, like everybody else in the world, should be giving a real chance to the approach that we have adopted, of very serious economic sanctions and diplomatic pressure, and the readiness to negotiate with Iran.

"And that's what we now have to make a success of."

In recent weeks, there has been feverish speculation that Israel was getting closer to mounting a pre-emptive strike on Iran's nuclear facilities, but Israel has denied reaching such a decision.

Hague said the Israelis had not shared any such plans with Britain, stressing: "We are not part of any planning to attack Iran. -- Israel will not share any plans. They know they can go it alone if need be!!Truth be told they probably secretly have the blessing of other Arab countries and will not be challenged if and when they launch a premtive attack!--- key word being SECRET!!!

"We don't take any options off the table... But our approach is 100 percent diplomatically and economically focused to bring Iran successfully to the negotiating table."

Iran said this week it was ready to resume stalled talks on its nuclear drive, prompting a cautious welcome from the United States and the EU.

"They have indicated in the last few days a new readiness to negotiate. Whether that is going to be on any meaningful basis, one has to be sceptical," Hague said.

Tensions between Israel and Iran flared following bombings in New Delhi, Tbilisi and Bangkok last week, but Iran angrily rejected accusations that it was behind the "terrorist" acts. -- If I was the leadership of MOSSAD I would be laughing at the ineptness or baffobery of Iranian intelligtence...lol

Hague declined to attribute blame for the attacks, but said Iran had "clearly" been involved in illegal activities abroad, adding: "This is part of the danger that Iran is currently presenting to the rest of the world."
 
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JEDIYoda said:
Speaking in the wake of attacks on Israeli diplomats blamed on agents of Tehran, Hague said the Islamic republic "has increased in its willingness to contemplate utterly illegal activities in other parts of the world". -- basically Hague is saying it`s not wise because Iran is run by wacckkos who if they had nuclear weapons would lash out at Israel!!
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That's not what Hague is saying at all. Not sure how you got that from your article.
 
Even though we dropped atomic bombs on Japan -- lives were saved and many students of ww2 would actually claim we would still be fighting that war.....possibly.....
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Last time I checked, killing 100k mostly innocent people doesn't count as saving lives.
 
Not surprisingly Israel isn't going to share any plans with anyone. I don't expect an imminent attack against Iran but if Iran does ever get to the testing phase then the gloves are off.
 
I think Israel is ready willing and able to attack Iran. I don't blame them at all. The time is right with the Arab Nations in disarray.
 
pcgeek11 said:
Because 100 thousand is way less than a million or more...

Get it? Japan was ready to arm the entire nation to fight the invasion of Japan.
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Even if they were, was it necessary to continue unnecessary fighting? Do you honestly think Japan would've come over to the continental United States and started killing civilians?

The sooner most people realize how much of an aggressor the United States, the better off the vast majority of people will be.
 
Anarchist420 said:
Even if they were, was it necessary to continue unnecessary fighting? Do you honestly think Japan would've come over to the continental United States and started killing civilians?

The sooner most people realize how much of an aggressor the United States, the better off the vast majority of people will be.
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The Chinese people didn't think the Japanese would butcher them either... 🙁

The Japanese were not going to quit. They didn't surrender after the first bomb, dumb move. They got the idea after the second. You have no point.
 
The question in my mind, is why a pathetically small nation of only 7 million Jews, should have any say in any world wide debate about the behavior of Iran.,

Especially so=ince any sins alleged against Iran have already been committed by Israel to a far greater extent.

The very idea that Israel thinks they can act as an international policeman is pathetically ludicrous. Already the USA, a far larger nation has been trying to act as international policeman, and all the USA now has two very expensive quagmires and a failed foreign policy to show for it. As even our allies question our sanity.

But point granted, AIPAC has an inordinate US influence in a Presidential election year. but even that is largely over billed as a majority of Americans don't favor only Israel. As for AIPAC in the rest of a 6 billion people world, AIPAC as all the credibility of doodly squat.

Meaning if Israel unilaterally acts, and it causes screws up the flow of oil in the Persian gulf, the international community may apply the same international arms and trade embargoes against Israel instead. Its the only way to cure a pathetically small Israel from its delusions of Grander.

If we read between the lines of the Hague link, he gives Israel the W.C Fields answer, go away kid, you bother me.
 
airdata said:
Last time I checked, killing 100k mostly innocent people doesn't count as saving lives.
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casualty of war......American soldiers lives were spared as well as Japanese soldiers...so you can look at it your way or my way..there are two sides and sometimes both are correct!!
 
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Anarchist420 said:
I can't believe you buy into that BS and it was well more than 100k innocents murdered anyway.

Now the OP has lost all credibility to me.
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To be honest please look in the mirror and talk about credibility.....

How is what others or myself have stated BS??

motF Bane-- A hundred thousand versus a million.


pcgeek 11 -- The Chinese people didn't think the Japanese would butcher them either...

The Japanese were not going to quit. They didn't surrender after the first bomb, dumb move. They got the idea after the second. You have no point.

 
Anarchist420 said:
Even if they were, was it necessary to continue unnecessary fighting? Do you honestly think Japan would've come over to the continental United States and started killing civilians?

The sooner most people realize how much of an aggressor the United States, the better off the vast majority of people will be.
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That`s not the point at all and you know it.......

Your an isolationist....you probably would not care of the Germans or the Japanese controlled the rest of the world as long as they left us alone......

yeah right!!
 
Lemon law said:
The question in my mind, is why a pathetically small nation of only 7 million Jews, should have any say in any world wide debate about the behavior of Iran.,

Especially so=ince any sins alleged against Iran have already been committed by Israel to a far greater extent.

The very idea that Israel thinks they can act as an international policeman is pathetically ludicrous. Already the USA, a far larger nation has been trying to act as international policeman, and all the USA now has two very expensive quagmires and a failed foreign policy to show for it. As even our allies question our sanity.

But point granted, AIPAC has an inordinate US influence in a Presidential election year. but even that is largely over billed as a majority of Americans don't favor only Israel. As for AIPAC in the rest of a 6 billion people world, AIPAC as all the credibility of doodly squat.

Meaning if Israel unilaterally acts, and it causes screws up the flow of oil in the Persian gulf, the international community may apply the same international arms and trade embargoes against Israel instead. Its the only way to cure a pathetically small Israel from its delusions of Grander.

If we read between the lines of the Hague link, he gives Israel the W.C Fields answer, go away kid, you bother me.
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If Israel does act, they will so be able to deliver proof/justification.

And as to the SINS of Israel against Iran, this is to be expected from you. Ignoring that Hamas, Syria, Hezbollah and previously the PLO are supplied financial and weapons to use against Israel.
 
Getting back on topic....
Hayabusa Rider

Not surprisingly Israel isn't going to share any plans with anyone. I don't expect an imminent attack against Iran but if Iran does ever get to the testing phase then the gloves are off.
 
WW2 has zero to do with Israel attacking Iran- it's just more false equivalency.

If Israel attacks Iran, it would be in a pre-emptive fashion, kinda like the Japanese attacking Pearl Harbor.

Iran hasn't fired a shot at the Israelis, and are currently in compliance with the NPT that they signed. Both the US and hte Israelis are trying to force Iran to abandon nuclear fuel enrichment, something Iran has every right to do under IAEA supervision.

Israel's only hope wrt an attack on Iran would be to drag the US into the conflict, simply because they lack the resources for an extended conflict and because of geography, the fact that they need to cross a lot of hostile air space to even get to Iran. Iran's facilities are also widely dispersed & many are hardened, as well. This isn't like a one time strike against the Osirak reactor, at all, nor like the Israelis' recent strike on Syria.

It's a truly stupid idea, one that not even the Bushista Neocons would support. It seems highly unlikely that the Obama Admin would either.

But do rave on... attempt to justify pre-emptive war against a nation at peace, one that hasn't engaged in hostile action at all...
 
Maybe Iran should attack Israel with all she's got, perhaps a nuke or two bought from North Korea, as a preemptive strike against Israel. I'm sure Jediyoda would agree with the logic...
 
EagleKeeper said:
If Israel does act, they will so be able to deliver proof/justification.

And as to the SINS of Israel against Iran, this is to be expected from you. Ignoring that Hamas, Syria, Hezbollah and previously the PLO are supplied financial and weapons to use against Israel.
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Yet you ignore the Israeli-sponsored terrorism going on inside Iran...
 
Dari said:
Maybe Iran should attack Israel with all she's got, perhaps a nuke or two bought from North Korea, as a preemptive strike against Israel. I'm sure Jediyoda would agree with the logic...I am sure you misread what I stated and that your purposely misrepresenting what I said!
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Did not state --Plus he is also saying Iran is crazy enough if they had nuclear weapons to use them.
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First of all please stick to what I said! Don`t make stuff up!
I never once mentioned Israel using nuclear wepons! What I did say what if Israel`s very existence was in danger as would any country that had nuclear weapons they would use them.


Plus if you know how to read and comprehend I said later that Israel would notuse nuclear weapons at all!

I said your beloved Iran is just wacko enough to use them when they get them even if they were not provoked!!

Please show me where I said Israel would use nuclear weapons to attack Iran?? You can`t! I never mentioned Israel using them in my initial thread.

Only later did i say any nation that had nuclear weapons woul;d use them if their very existence was threatened!
 
JEDIYoda said:
First of all please stick to what I said! Don`t make stuff up!
I never once mentioned Israel using nuclear wepons! What I did say what if Israel`s very existence was in danger as would any country that had nuclear weapons they would use them.


Plus if you know how to read and comprehend I said later that Israel would notuse nuclear weapons at all!

I said your beloved Iran is just wacko enough to use them when they get them even if they were not provoked!!

Please show me where I said Israel would use nuclear weapons to attack Iran?? You can`t! I never mentioned Israel using them in my initial thread.

Only later did i say any nation that had nuclear weapons woul;d use them if their very existence was threatened!
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I misread nothing. Anyhoo, I await the day Israel attacks Iran. I'm sure some think that with Syria in turmoil they will have an advantage. But the truth is Israel had mixed feelings about Syria going into turmoil. Besides, Iran never counted on the Syrians anyway. But it's the other non-state organizations that should give Israel pause. They've been building up their arsenal for times like these...
 
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