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[renderingrocks]

10.5.8 audio injector translation from http://www.darwinx86.org/appli...res-osx86/152-hda-1058

As you've discovered after the last update of OS X older injectors no longer work, or do not work only partially.

We've updated the previous version of injectors audio DarwinX86 for compatibility 10.5.8. Good news growing family! Several new codecs will be added to the collection in the weeks to come.

We therefore collected information on different sound cards and according to research Taruga and XYZ (aka. The King) we developed a number of injectors for OSx86.

These kexts darwinx86.org have one property list to inject the proper configuration of your sound card in the registry, unlike the old method that used two kext legacy. As a bonus these new injectors are equipped with the plugin HDAEnabler.kext designed by Kabyle.

If you use a string or the DSDT for your shot, simply select the LayoutID number 12. Or modify the kext to correspond to layoutID of your choice.


Unfortunately we have not been tested this entire kext, you should therefore be tested with caution in case a kernel panic arises. The most "safe" is to use a flash drive with chameleon V2 installed on it. This kext is designed to be placed in the / Extra / Extensions. But it might as well put them in / System / Library / Extensions. Note that they must be used with the latest version of vanilla AppleHDA.kext.

If pepin see (read preferably before testing):

Read a Kernel Panic

Configuration backup

 

[renderingrocks]

10.5.7 audio injector translation http://www.darwinx86.org/appli...res-osx86/145-hda-1057

as you found after the last update of OS X older legacy kext no longer work, and in some cases even cause a kernel panic.

We therefore collected information on different sound cards and according to research Taruga and XYZ (aka. The King) we developed a number of injectors to 10.5.7.

These kexts darwinx86.org have one property list to inject the proper configuration of your sound card in the registry, unlike the old method that used two kext legacy. As a bonus these new injectors are equipped with the plugin HDAEnabler.kext designed by Kabyle.

If you use a string or the DSDT for your shot, simply select the LayoutID number 12. Or modify the kext to correspond to layoutID of your choice.


Unfortunately we have not been tested this entire kext, you should therefore be tested with caution in case a kernel panic arises. The most "safe" is to use a flash drive with chameleon V2 installed on it. This kext is designed to be placed in the / Extra / Extensions. But it might as well put them in / System / Library / Extensions. Note that they must be used with the latest version of vanilla AppleHDA.kext (1.6.8a3).

If pepin see (read preferably before testing):

Read a Kernel Panic

Configuration backup

 

[mosslack]

Ah Ha, I see and then just select the one for your audio chip from the list provided I suppose? I knew I should have taken French instead of Spanish in high school. Thanks much for the translation renderingrocks.

So has anyone tried these in /S/L/E instead of /E/E? I've never tried the pure vanilla experience via the flash drive yet. To me it was progress getting away from the flash drive, but I suppose to each his own.

 

[mosslack]

On a totally unrelated subject, I recently downloaded and burned a copy of the new iAtKOS v7 DVD. I have it installed on a scratch HD on my UD3P system. Tried strings for video card first but they didn't work, so I used the Natit enabler provided. Works fine, but experienced the same problem getting my optimal resolution to work so that seems to be more related to my particular setup and monitor than the install procedure. I'm currently updating the system to 10.5.8 using the software update. So far, so good. I plan to attempt another install on the old HP server using this distro as others have had success using this one on older hardware and AMD systems.

 

[renderingrocks]

I would try it but right now I dont have a spare drive. I ended using my test drive in the new rig. So try it on a UD3P for me! We may need this for 10.6.

That C2 is interesting, using a vanilla kernel, Is it ready for prime time?

Looks like Kaido has risen from the bat cave, Welcome back!

 

[mosslack]

Originally posted by: renderingrocks
I would try it but right now I dont have a spare drive. I ended using my test drive in the new rig. So try it on a UD3P for me! We may need this for 10.6.

That C2 is interesting, using a vanilla kernel, Is it ready for prime time?

Looks like Kaido has risen from the bat cave, Welcome back!

I don't think Chameleon 2 is quit ready yet, I'm sure if I experienced problems with the resolutions there are others as well. Of course it might work better if using the pure vanilla system like Hernandito is. I haven't gotten that far in my quest for the perfect Hackintosh yet. But I'm sure I will as I go along. I can say now that the update to 10.5.8 using iAtKOS was smooth as silk just using the software update. Got the usual Mach restart and then it came up just fine on the second restart. I only problem I can see just looking at the desktop is that my HD icon is orange. I forget which patch is used to correct this, but I'm sure it will come to me.

 

[machinist]

Kaido/Weaksauce:

Advanced this sound solution in tmongkol's 889a thread on Insanely and the response has been affirmative, so I thought to bring it to you and yours for further testing. In an effort to run SL on my rig I converted as much as I could into DSDT. Of course, because I have only the 3870, it was essentially a futile effort. The ethernet and audio DSDT solutions work for SL, just not the video. Interestingly, enabling the onboard ethernet with DSDT as a R8169 yields full duplex and built-in status for both ports, but bonjour is problematic, so I occasionally swap in the psystar kext. Built-in status endures thanks to the DSDT mod, but not the full duplex interface. So maybe not totally vanilla all the time?

Sound solution is very simple. Change layout-id to "66" in the DSDT, which is found in every AppleHDA from 10.5.6 to 10.6. I tried over forty different layout-ids. The first was "66" and it turned out to be the best. While many offer sound through the green jack, only "66" offered line-out through the green jack, and produced 2 ins, 2 outs, and digital in and out. About a half dozen sound assertion errors manifest on boot, but none are persistent. All that is required is a vanilla (audio) installation and changing the layout-id to "0x42, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00", (and having the proper codec id, 283904133, which in Hex is 0x10EC0885, so it looks like 0x89, 0x08, 0xEC, 0x10 in the DSDT). It's not a perfect solution, but it is clean and works across all iterations of OS.

Hope this proves helpful.

 

[mosslack]

Originally posted by: mosslack
Very good, I just got done trying myself using the Kaido fix for 10.5.7 and it does NOT work. I believe I have a copy of the VoodooHDA.kext on the HQ-A file site so I will give that a shot. Will let you all know if it works or not.

Okay, I have in fact copied the VoodooHDA.kext over and verified it does work. I'm sure if you follow the instructions link in volcs0 post it will produce the same outputs he got, but if you use the generic one like I did you will get a bunch of outputs which don't mean a whole lot to me. It works and that is all I care about so the choice is yours until a more eloquent solution is found. You can find voodooHDA.kext in google, or download it from the HQ-A file section. HTH

Okay, after using this solution for awhile on my test partition, I decided to give the newly found solution a try. So in preparation I removed the VoodooHDA.kext (trashed it, empty the trash) on my test partition and rebooted. Sound still worked! Just in case there was something left of the code from previous reboots I shut down the system for about a minute and then restarted. Sound still works. In fact all the extra items that VoodooHDA.kext added are gone from the sound pref, just these remain:

Internal Speakers
Line Out
Headphones
Digital Out

As before 10.5.8, to get sound from the connected speakers I have to select Internal Speakers. If someone knowledgeable on subject would care to explain this to me I'm all ears! :shocked:

 

[machinist]

Mosslack:

Which "newly found solution" did you try?

I just tried out the "Darwin solution", using layout-id "12" (Hex = "0C") in my DSDT and the 889a kext. That combination yields 3 outs, 2 ins, and digital in and out for a total of seven. Sound does issue from the green jack. One assertion error manifests on boot.

Using layout-id "66" with the kext (and changing the plist layout value of the French kext to layout-id "66" still produces four outs and three ins, but with the additional "mikey" errors at boot.

It's an alternative, though I think it only works with 10.5.8. Just using layout-id "66" works for all Leopard/SL iterations, and seems more elegant as no kexts are involved.

Did you purge the caches and rebuild the Mkexts?

 

[mosslack]

Originally posted by: machinist
Mosslack:

Which "newly found solution" did you try?

I just tried out the "Darwin solution", using layout-id "12" (Hex = "0C") in my DSDT and the 889a kext. That combination yields 3 outs, 2 ins, and digital in and out for a total of seven. Sound does issue from the green jack. One assertion error manifests on boot.

Using layout-id "66" with the kext (and changing the plist layout value of the French kext to layout-id "66" still produces four outs and three ins, but with the additional "mikey" errors at boot.

It's an alternative, though I think it only works with 10.5.8. Just using layout-id "66" works for all Leopard/SL iterations, and seems more elegant as no kexts are involved.

Did you purge the caches and rebuild the Mkexts?

When 10.5.8 came out it was quickly discovered that using the kext included with Kaido's kit no longer worked on the UD3P. Someone found a thread on Insanely which said the VoodooHDA.kext would work. That was the solution I was using and then a few posts ago, Hernandito posted yet another solution involving some new kext. That was the solution I was planning to try. In prep to try this I removed the VoodooHDA.kext from my system and rebooted. When the desktop came back up the sound was working without VoodooHDA.kext. I just did a reinstall and am planning to try the solution that Hernandito posted, have not gotten around to the one you just posted. Besides, I quit using the DSDT when it was discovered that it was not necessary. HTH

EDIT: I just finished installing the new kext and it does work, but it still requires that I use the Internal Speakers to get my speakers to work. I believe this is close enough for me, unless Kaido comes up with something better than this.

 

[renderingrocks]

Originally posted by: mosslack

Originally posted by: machinist
Mosslack:

Which "newly found solution" did you try?

I just tried out the "Darwin solution", using layout-id "12" (Hex = "0C") in my DSDT and the 889a kext. That combination yields 3 outs, 2 ins, and digital in and out for a total of seven. Sound does issue from the green jack. One assertion error manifests on boot.

Using layout-id "66" with the kext (and changing the plist layout value of the French kext to layout-id "66" still produces four outs and three ins, but with the additional "mikey" errors at boot.

It's an alternative, though I think it only works with 10.5.8. Just using layout-id "66" works for all Leopard/SL iterations, and seems more elegant as no kexts are involved.

Did you purge the caches and rebuild the Mkexts?

When 10.5.8 came out it was quickly discovered that using the kext included with Kaido's kit no longer worked on the UD3P. Someone found a thread on Insanely which said the VoodooHDA.kext would work. That was the solution I was using and then a few posts ago, Hernandito posted yet another solution involving some new kext. That was the solution I was planning to try. In prep to try this I removed the VoodooHDA.kext from my system and rebooted. When the desktop came back up the sound was working without VoodooHDA.kext. I just did a reinstall and am planning to try the solution that Hernandito posted, have not gotten around to the one you just posted. Besides, I quit using the DSDT when it was discovered that it was not necessary. HTH

EDIT: I just finished installing the new kext and it does work, but it still requires that I use the Internal Speakers to get my speakers to work. I believe this is close enough for me, unless Kaido comes up with something better than this.

which kext did you use? did you use kext helper to install it?

 

[machinist]

Mosslack:

Perhaps the DSDT is "unnecessary" but it is an elegant solution for audio, video and ethernet across all Leopard iterations and into SL. It's a kext-less "set it and forget it" situation so far. But if you want kludgey kexts you need to replace with every upgrade, suit yourself.

I'm familiar with this board's issues with Weaksauce's audio kexts. Been following this board and kaido/weaksauce's work since the UD3P first came on the scene: bought the rev. 1.0 as soon as it came out for its compatibility with Leopard. Kaido/Weaksauce's preference for the add-on cards for audio and ethernet is the best solution, and hence discussion of on-board options has been limited between us.

I offer up the "66" DSDT mod as an alternative to scrounging for kexts, and it works in SL too. As Weaksauce has said, buy the cards and have no issues, or pick your poison for onboard options. This DSDT solution is not too toxic at all.

Good luck with your testing. I've shared my results with the Hernandito/Darwin kext in my previous post.

p.s. You will "need" DSDT for SL, unless you enjoy resetting your bios every time you turn on your machine. I just need four kexts and my DSDT to boot SL with working audio, video (if I use any card but the 3870) and full duplex two port ethernet (sans inbound bonjour greetings): an elegant solution?

 

[mosslack]

Originally posted by: renderingrocks

Originally posted by: mosslack

Originally posted by: machinist
Mosslack:

Which "newly found solution" did you try?

I just tried out the "Darwin solution", using layout-id "12" (Hex = "0C") in my DSDT and the 889a kext. That combination yields 3 outs, 2 ins, and digital in and out for a total of seven. Sound does issue from the green jack. One assertion error manifests on boot.

Using layout-id "66" with the kext (and changing the plist layout value of the French kext to layout-id "66" still produces four outs and three ins, but with the additional "mikey" errors at boot.

It's an alternative, though I think it only works with 10.5.8. Just using layout-id "66" works for all Leopard/SL iterations, and seems more elegant as no kexts are involved.

Did you purge the caches and rebuild the Mkexts?

When 10.5.8 came out it was quickly discovered that using the kext included with Kaido's kit no longer worked on the UD3P. Someone found a thread on Insanely which said the VoodooHDA.kext would work. That was the solution I was using and then a few posts ago, Hernandito posted yet another solution involving some new kext. That was the solution I was planning to try. In prep to try this I removed the VoodooHDA.kext from my system and rebooted. When the desktop came back up the sound was working without VoodooHDA.kext. I just did a reinstall and am planning to try the solution that Hernandito posted, have not gotten around to the one you just posted. Besides, I quit using the DSDT when it was discovered that it was not necessary. HTH

EDIT: I just finished installing the new kext and it does work, but it still requires that I use the Internal Speakers to get my speakers to work. I believe this is close enough for me, unless Kaido comes up with something better than this.

which kext did you use? did you use kext helper to install it?

I used the one from the site you translated. Just chose the kext for the ALC-889a (UD3P sound chip) and then used Kext helper to install. Funny it worked fine on the reboot when I did it on my test partition and just now I updated my main UD3P partition to 10.5.8 and tried the same thing but it didn't work on the restart. I had to shutdown the system and do a cold boot to get it to work. But it does work and that is the main thing.

 

[mosslack]

Originally posted by: machinist
Mosslack:

Perhaps the DSDT is "unnecessary" but it is an elegant solution for audio, video and ethernet across all Leopard iterations and into SL. It's a kext-less "set it and forget it" situation so far. But if you want kludgey kexts you need to replace with every upgrade, suit yourself.

I'm familiar with this board's issues with Weaksauce's audio kexts. Been following this board and kaido/weaksauce's work since the UD3P first came on the scene: bought the rev. 1.0 as soon as it came out for its compatibility with Leopard. Kaido/Weaksauce's preference for the add-on cards for audio and ethernet is the best solution, and hence discussion of on-board options has been limited between us.

I offer up the "66" DSDT mod as an alternative to scrounging for kexts, and it works in SL too. As Weaksauce has said, buy the cards and have no issues, or pick your poison for onboard options. This DSDT solution is not too toxic at all.

Good luck with your testing. I've shared my results with the Hernandito/Darwin kext in my previous post.

p.s. You will "need" DSDT for SL, unless you enjoy resetting your bios every time you turn on your machine. I just need four kexts and my DSDT to boot SL with working audio, video (if I use any card but the 3870) and full duplex two port ethernet (sans inbound bonjour greetings): an elegant solution?

No doubt an elegant solution, but I'm happy with what I have. Scrounging for "kludgey kexts" as you put it, is half the fun to me. My joy comes from getting these things to work and/or work another way. While I agree that DSDT is going to be necessary for SL, it is NOT necessary for me right now. Besides that, I already have a DSDT file, just don't use it. Plus if I wanted a truly vanilla system I would just bite the bullet and buy a Mac. :Q

As for experimentation, I am interested in different ways to accomplish the same goal and plan to work on using the flash drive method that Hernandito spoke of. I followed the back and forth between him and Kaido on the subject some time ago with much interest. Your way sounds interesting also and may have time in the future to try it out.

 

[machinist]

Mosslack:

Don't read me wrongly, I enjoy hunting for solutions too. Rather then spring for a new card I've been experimenting with all manner of approaches to enable my 3870 in SL. It's frustrating yet fun.

Every time you boot, Chameleon reads the ACPI table from your bios which "tells" Leopard about your hardware. The DSDT.aml modifies the ACPI table. So, like it or not, every time you boot you are using "DSDT", whether it's a null value or full of information for the OS. My initial post was addressed to "Kaido", as two alterations to a DSDT will yield functional ethernet and audio for those subscribing to his package, no matter which version of Mac OS they run. This means he won't have to be looking for an audio or ethernet solution with each OS update. I appreciate Weaksauce's work, and am just trying to return the favour.

"Vanilla" is only a flavour of interest (to me) if it "betters" the functionality of the system. I've an acquaintance who just purchased an iMac which runs markedly slower, has less memory, weaker audio options, only one ethernet port, an inferior video card, and cost twice what I spent putting together my machine. It is "vanilla". If I aspired to "vanilla" I too would buy a Mac. This is not about that.

The instructions for the kext you installed indicate it was destined and designed for /Extra/Extensions installation, and that the DSDT (if used) be modified for layout-id "12". If you change your DSDT to layout-id "12" it will no longer show as internal speakers. There are other ways to change that display, but DSDT layout-id is easiest. You could see which layout-id you are using (from your bios) through IOReg Explorer.

Flash drive just allows you to move your /E/E folder off your hard drive, allowing for a more "vanilla" installation, that's all. Oh, and it does wear out a flash drive which has a finite number of "writes" in its life. But if you want a more "vanilla" installation, by all means explore the option.

Glad you found a satisfactory solution. Happy Hackintoshing!

 

[renderingrocks]

Originally posted by: machinist
Mosslack:

Don't read me wrongly, I enjoy hunting for solutions too. Rather then spring for a new card I've been experimenting with all manner of approaches to enable my 3870 in SL. It's frustrating yet fun.

Every time you boot, Chameleon reads the ACPI table from your bios which "tells" Leopard about your hardware. The DSDT.aml modifies the ACPI table. So, like it or not, every time you boot you are using "DSDT", whether it's a null value or full of information for the OS. My initial post was addressed to "Kaido", as two alterations to a DSDT will yield functional ethernet and audio for those subscribing to his package, no matter which version of Mac OS they run. This means he won't have to be looking for an audio or ethernet solution with each OS update. I appreciate Weaksauce's work, and am just trying to return the favour.

"Vanilla" is only a flavour of interest (to me) if it "betters" the functionality of the system. I've an acquaintance who just purchased an iMac which runs markedly slower, has less memory, weaker audio options, only one ethernet port, an inferior video card, and cost twice what I spent putting together my machine. It is "vanilla". If I aspired to "vanilla" I too would buy a Mac. This is not about that.

The instructions for the kext you installed indicate it was destined and designed for /Extra/Extensions installation, and that the DSDT (if used) be modified for layout-id "12". If you change your DSDT to layout-id "12" it will no longer show as internal speakers. There are other ways to change that display, but DSDT layout-id is easiest. You could see which layout-id you are using (from your bios) through IOReg Explorer.

Flash drive just allows you to move your /E/E folder off your hard drive, allowing for a more "vanilla" installation, that's all. Oh, and it does wear out a flash drive which has a finite number of "writes" in its life. But if you want a more "vanilla" installation, by all means explore the option.

Glad you found a satisfactory solution. Happy Hackintoshing!

As a relative noob, how do you modify the dsdt? Is there a guide that explains it? Not just what to do but why to avoid dumb questions?

 

[mosslack]

@ machinist:

I applaud your better solution and am happy for you. I just have too many projects going on right now to start yet another one. Besides trying to keep the 5 hacks I use regularly up to date and running smoothly, I'm currently trying to rig up this 3 monitor display using 2 computers which requires some modifications to my desk and surroundings. And that doesn't include the 2 file servers I have running in the other room.

I'm also running HQ-A which has seen an increase in membership and messages posted here lately. Plus I work a full time job at a nearby post office M-F, so the weekend is all the time I really have for what I enjoy the most. If that is not enough, 3 woman from the post office just stopped by (after 10 PM local time) wanting me to go out to a local establishment! Had to turn them down, you just have to know what is more important in life! :laugh: Thanks for the info and I will eventually get into it so do us a favor and keep us up to date on it.

 

[machinist]

Mosslack:

You turned down 3 women from the Post Office to respond to me? You fool! They don't call them "male carriers" for nothing you know? (One of my brothers works for the PO in AZ, and the other dated a former Post Master General's daughter, so I feel safe in punning on your profession.)

I don't know that the solution I discovered is "better". The kext from France/Darwin offers fewer sound assertion errors on boot, though that's likely irrelevant, and has one more output option. But they and I don't know whether it actually works on all 889a or whether it produces digital in and out. I don't know whether layout-id "66" in the DSDT produces digital output either, though the light is on and it should work? I don't have any way to test it.

I think it's safe to say we are all busy these days. I rarely post: just don't have the time. Thought this board and Weaksauce/Kaido might make use of the "66" now that I know it works across revisions and apparently Gigabyte boards in general. Insanely members have been trying it on for size and the feedback is entirely positive thus far. Audio was an issue in my initial installation on this board last November, and I remember my difficulties. This approach has alleviated a few folk's frustration and I'm happy for that. Not interested in setting up a guide or anything. Ultimately I'm just a big fan of whatever works.

Good luck with your projects, and keep in mind that no matter how "vanilla" your hack, it will never bring you breakfast in bed in the morning....at least not yet.

 

[machinist]

To modify a dsdt.aml one converts it to text format with a tool like iaslMe.app, opens it with TextEdit or the like, changes the text, and reconverts it to .aml.

How it's modified is the key, and right now that is still being discovered. There are industry guides, one is 800 pages long, on guidelines for creating an ACPI table, which is what the DSDT amends before it's handed off to Leopard. The problem is that Apple doesn't have a guide for how to modify a PC's ACPI table to enable Leopard or SL, and why should they? Apple uses EFI. So almost everything out there on modifying an ACPI table with DSDT is newly minted knowledge. It is very anecdotal, and constantly evolving. Trial and error is at times the only tool at hand. New things which can be done with DSDT mods are being uncovered every day, and that information is spread across boards dealing with audio, ethernet, video and anywhere else you can imagine. One board, http://www.infinitemac.com/f84/, is just devoted to DSDT overrides. At the top is a sticky which might be of interest to you, called "A Quick Guide To DSDT". You may already have seen it?

Hope this addresses your question somewhat?

Good luck.

 

[ViRGE]

Hey Kaido, what do you know about manually patching the AppleHDA kext? I have a new Intel DX58SO board, which comes with an honest-to-goodness ALC889 for the audio codec (and not the "A" variety, which is really an ALC885). Unfortunately the only thing that works with it is VoodooHDA, which in turn doesn't have working inputs. I'm looking at just manually patching AppleHDA, but the guides seem incomplete. What do you know about the subject?

 

[machinist]

renderingrocks:

This is how quickly the "DSDT scene" is evolving. I did not discover this site until just now, and don't think it existed a week ago. It includes a very good "Roadmap DSDT". It is "Pere's" site, apparently.

http://www.osx86.es/

How's your Spanish? A translation is in the works, but Google doesn't mangle it too much:

http://translate.google.com/tr...A%2F%2Fwww.osx86.es%2F

Hope you find this helpful.

 

[Jack Flash]

Thinking about hopping ship to Windows 7 RTM for the fall to give it a fair shot for day to day usage and see how Snow Leopard ends up for UD3P Hackintoshes. I've never used Windows as a primary OS before!

 

[renderingrocks]

thanks for the info. I can see myself obsessing over this and getting it down. If it's needed for 10.6 and beyond, then it's a necessary evil. It would be nice to not worry about point updates.

 

[Hernandito]

Originally posted by: mosslack


EDIT: I just finished installing the new kext and it does work, but it still requires that I use the Internal Speakers to get my speakers to work. I believe this is close enough for me, unless Kaido comes up with something better than this.

Hiya Mosslack,

The kext you are using works very well for me. If I have speakers plugged in the back, they work automatically. If I plug headphones to the front of my case, it automatically switches the output to the front, just like in Windows. I really like this feature.

Wether it says Internal Speakers.... who cares. Because you never have to be setting it. Try it ut and let us know if this is the way it works for you.

I really like the idea of the USB boot drive. However, the same solution would work if you create a small partition on a Windows drive, install Chameleon 2 on it, and default your system to boot from that drive.

 

[mosslack]

Originally posted by: Jack Flash
Thinking about hopping ship to Windows 7 RTM for the fall to give it a fair shot for day to day usage and see how Snow Leopard ends up for UD3P Hackintoshes. I've never used Windows as a primary OS before!

I think most people make do with whatever they have and to them that is fine. I used Windows for years and years, but bought a used Mac one day several years back and have been playing around with those and Hacks ever since. I still keep a Vista partition on my setups just because most folks around where I live know nothing else. That is one of the things I like most about Hacks, the ability to easily run both. From what I saw of the Win 7 beta, it's very much like Vista, at least in appearance. I suppose there are some improvements, but nothing I saw that would make me leave OS X as my primary platform.