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ha! got the wife to finally see the difference between HD and SD
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Juddog
Diamond Member
Planet Earth on blu-ray is simply amazing to view in full 1080p. Anybody that can't see the difference needs a new pair of glasses. The problem is that some blu-ray movies don't match up with other blu-ray movies in terms of quality. If you want a good sample of which ones are the best to get for a nice demo, check out this thread over at avsforums:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1168342
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1168342
Juddog
Diamond Member
The other problem in the HD vs. SD argument is broadcast quality, both on cable and over the air. Sometimes you'll tune in on an HD channel to find a picture that looks like crap. For example Adelphia used to do this with their HD stations; they would compress the signal to 50:1 and you'd watch one of their 1080i broadcasts and it just didn't look that good at all.
endervalentine
Senior member
I thought you showed her the Manning commercial for dtv 🙂
zinfamous
No Lifer
GF has been able to tell the difference, and she appreciates it, but doesn't really care in the end.
It took some time, but I finally got her to recognize the crappiness of much of the "HD" that can be found in Comcast's On-Demand service. A couple of recent movies that we watched were ridiculously compressed, had some serious frame-dropping and as such, the audio-sync got progressively worse and worse.
While the audio sync is rather obvious, it took a while to convince her that I wasn't crazy when I was insistent that people don't normally walk at those speeds :laugh: It's like watching an old silent film sometimes with a slower frame rate.
It took some time, but I finally got her to recognize the crappiness of much of the "HD" that can be found in Comcast's On-Demand service. A couple of recent movies that we watched were ridiculously compressed, had some serious frame-dropping and as such, the audio-sync got progressively worse and worse.
While the audio sync is rather obvious, it took a while to convince her that I wasn't crazy when I was insistent that people don't normally walk at those speeds :laugh: It's like watching an old silent film sometimes with a slower frame rate.
Thats not entirely true. Many movies are presented in 2.35:1.
That's because network news pulls feeds from all over the country, many of which are not sourced HD. Given the circumstance, the pillarbars are better than preemptively stretching all SD feeds they use. The same is true for local news whose studios might be equipped for HD but not their field cameras.
Because smaller networks may not upgrade to HD, and since there's always legacy material reused later, you may as well get used to it.
Of course I know what you mean. My point is that, just the same as 4:3 content produces pillarbars on a 16:9 display, 2:35:1 content will produce letterboxing on that same 16:9 display. I don't know if your intent was to lament that empty space on the screen, but it's not going to be avoided, because of the (4:3) reasons I mentioned, as well as for the film based 2:35:1 ratio which many directors prefer.
AstroManLuca
Lifer
Did you know that most TVs allow you to deactivate certain channels? I went into my parents' TV and deactivated all the SD versions of channels that are available in HD, so now when they scroll through their channels, they only get good quality shows.
Oh, wait. I just remembered that my parents just use the antenna. Most people these days seem to have digital cable or satellite so I'm not sure how it works in that case. Can you disable channels on a cable/satellite box?
Modelworks
Lifer
One other thing to consider is that all content is not created equal. Just because the video fits the standard doesn't mean it will look great. Some high quality SD looks better than poor quality HD.
AstroManLuca
Lifer
So THAT'S what that feature is for! I always thought it was funny that the kids are usually the only ones smart enough to figure out the parental controls.
squirrel dog
Diamond Member
Black and white movies are primo on hd sets with an hd receiver.I was watching the Maltese Falcon , everyone smoked back then , any way it was late,I was about to nod but I jumped up in bed. I thought the receiver was smoking , it was an actor seated low in a chair that I couldn't see.The picture on the tv(50"plasma Panny)looked so realistic that I thought something was burning.Thats the power of hd.
zerocool84
Lifer
I have a 4:3 HDTV set I got in 01. It has an enhanced 16:9 mode so it doesn't waste resolution on the black bars.
Kaido
Elite Member & Kitchen Overlord
Yeah, same here...I purposely got a 720p projector instead of a 1080p model so that upscaled DVDs wouldn't look bad. The difference is still noticeable, but it's not such a big deal that I absolutely have to convert my entire movie collection to HD 😛
I still keep a 27" tube TV around for my Tivo. TV looks just as good as HD does on a 1080p set, quality-wise - just a bit smaller. But when you put SD on a full-HD set...shudder :Q
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