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[H]ard's New Article on FarCry patch 1.3 & SM3.0
- Thread starter PrayForDeath
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Gamingphreek
Lifer
Good Read nice find.
-Kevin
-Kevin
"If you have not yet purchased this game or have a SM3.0 capable video card, Best Buy is running a special through Saturday, October 30, 2004. You can pick up a BFGTech 6800OC along with a free copy of FarCry and get an instant $50 rebate bringing the price to $249.99. This offer is good online as well as in Best Buy's B&M stores."
I got in on this yesterday for my second box, awesome deal.
I got in on this yesterday for my second box, awesome deal.
PrayForDeath
Diamond Member
This article should settle down the flamewars going in "Technical question about HDR" thread 😉
It's a good read, indeed, and congrats on your new buy, Rage187 :beer:
edit: the best part is when they analyzed the graph explaining the "Hiccups" and performance jumps with the 6800 GT.
It's a good read, indeed, and congrats on your new buy, Rage187 :beer:
edit: the best part is when they analyzed the graph explaining the "Hiccups" and performance jumps with the 6800 GT.
OnEMoReTrY
Senior member
Who says nvidia is better in far cry? All the latest 1.3 benchmarks show ATI still witha 10%+ lead? And doom 3's graphics are far superior to farcrys
I know that I am in the minority in thinking far cry was much nicer graphics than Doom3, but is how I feel. The conclusion of that article suggested to me that with the new lighting effects, Nvidia just looks even better. Can't try it myself, as I don't have a 6800 ultra. Have played far cry and wouldn't buy a card based on it, unless others use the engine - still is a nice development for Nvidia.
nitromullet
Diamond Member
Curious about the hiccups and pauses with the 6800 GT mentioned by the author that... Anyone else have this issue? I wonder if this is an issue with the PCIe version/drivers. Odd that HardOCP would test with a card not even released yet.
I'm downloading the 1.3 patch now, I'll have to see if I have any issues with my GT...
That is still argument to go with nVidia.... What was your point?
I'm downloading the 1.3 patch now, I'll have to see if I have any issues with my GT...
That is still argument to go with nVidia.... What was your point?
HeroOfPellinor
Lifer
6800GT hiccups are well documented and usually related to bios settings. Something to do with fast writes or audio or something. Just search GH and this forum for it.
nitromullet
Diamond Member
From the article:
I don't have any problems with my GT, but I haven't tried the 1.3 patch yet, just wondering if anyone else had the same problems that HOCP did.
nitromullet
Diamond Member
Yeah, like I said, I wonder if it maybe an issue exclusive to the PCIe version.... Kind of a slack job on determining what the cause was IMO... Glad to hear you aren't having any problems. How about saved games, can you load games saved with 1.1?
otispunkmeyer
Lifer
i find hdr at max settings and hdr quiet playable most of the time....at 12x10....with hdr 7
but my mouse was set so fast it now feels sluggish like ill move the mouse and the view will have a delay before moving...its ugly, but the game looks sublime
but my mouse was set so fast it now feels sluggish like ill move the mouse and the view will have a delay before moving...its ugly, but the game looks sublime
So now that PS 3.0 isn't the big deal it was touted as, HDR is all that? What about 3DC implementation? Was that scrapped? HDR seems ultra cool, but seems that in this case Crytek simply employed an Nvidia-specific way of doing it. Kind of a biased Id-type maneuver, so I'm wondering how an ATI sort of implementation would look like.
HDR is not nVidia specific like PS 3.0 shading is. Because PS2.0b looks as good as PS3.0, did Crytek go out of its way to make nVidia look better by only supporting nVidia HDR? Is this a ploy to attack some of the momentum that HL2 is generating for ATI, which will use 3DC?
HDR is not nVidia specific like PS 3.0 shading is. Because PS2.0b looks as good as PS3.0, did Crytek go out of its way to make nVidia look better by only supporting nVidia HDR? Is this a ploy to attack some of the momentum that HL2 is generating for ATI, which will use 3DC?
Gamingphreek
Lifer
2.0b isn't as good. Far Cry is not offer native SM3.0 support. Nor does it support all of its features. It supports rudimentary features of 3.0 which just happen o be included in 2.0b.
I do agree that Crytek is implementing HDR only for Nvidia because of agreements and stuff.
-Kevin
I do agree that Crytek is implementing HDR only for Nvidia because of agreements and stuff.
-Kevin
the x800 series can do it. it just needs to be done a different way. if you think extra processes results in a harder FPS hit, well I'll point you in the direction of a certain Humus tweak (and don't forget about the SM 2.0x vs. SM 3.0 quality vs. speed comparisons done with the new Farcry patch).
"As we already stated, R420 (like the R300) still is much easier to optimize for than any GeForce, included Series 6. This is an advantage for ATI. But effective raw performance is not all. Even though NV40 is harder to optimize for, this GPU can do a lot what R420 still has to "emulate." Take so-called HDR (which is in our books in fact Medium Dynamic Rendering, MDR). R420 has to fetch at least four FP texture samples, filter them in the pixelshader, and render to an FP texture. NV40 has built-in FP filtering up to 16x AF (done by TMU, offloading the pixelshaders) and can render to an FP frame buffer (this disables multisampling AA, we should mention).
The "back-end" in HDR/MDR, tone mapping, can be done in NV40's RAMDAC-Logic while R420 has to utilize its pixelshaders. NV40 offers partly OpenEXR-support built-in with the chip. Real cinematic effects relying on such technologies (whatever names they may have). While R420 can render such content, it is not really designed for it. So we have to consider the R420 as an intermediate step.
Because the feature set is good enough for today's games (like Far Cry) and tomorrow's alike (say, Halflife 2), R420 an interesting product indeed."
Link
There are different types of HDR. Crytek just picked a way that doesnt work on ATi cards. HL2's HDR does.
Farcry's HDR does look nice in-game. As it is now though, its a bit over the top for me. Too bright, and too "Hollywood" for lack of a better word. That and the fact you need to lower your res down, and cant use AA makes it less attractive. Jaggies are very annoying now, after about 2 years of running AA in every game. I simply have a hard time playing any game without AA on.
If they can tone down the effect, or give the user the option, and somehow increase frames, I would be more excited. Oh, and if I didnt beat the game already 6 months ago.
Farcry's HDR does look nice in-game. As it is now though, its a bit over the top for me. Too bright, and too "Hollywood" for lack of a better word. That and the fact you need to lower your res down, and cant use AA makes it less attractive. Jaggies are very annoying now, after about 2 years of running AA in every game. I simply have a hard time playing any game without AA on.
If they can tone down the effect, or give the user the option, and somehow increase frames, I would be more excited. Oh, and if I didnt beat the game already 6 months ago.
stnicralisk
Golden Member
Riiight so theyre working on adding 3dc support because of agreements too? Your post is crap.
PrayForDeath
Diamond Member
Never heard of 3DC support in FarCry :disgust:
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