Guys would you wear makeup to succeed in the workplace?

Anonemous

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http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2012-09-17/for-s-dot-korean-men-makeup-a-foundation-for-success

For S. Korean men, makeup a foundation for success
By Foster Klug on September 17, 2012
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2012-09-17/for-s-dot-korean-men-makeup-a-foundation-for-success
SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — Cho Won-hyuk stands in front of his bedroom mirror and spreads dollops of yellow-brown makeup over his forehead, nose, chin and cheeks until his skin is flawless. Then he goes to work with a black pencil, highlighting his eyebrows until they're thicker, bolder.

"Having a clean, neat face makes you look sophisticated and creates an image that you can handle yourself well," the 24-year-old college student said. "Your appearance matters, so when I wear makeup on special occasions, it makes me more confident."

Cho's meticulous efforts to paint the perfect face are not unusual in South Korea. This socially conservative, male-dominated country, with a mandatory two-year military conscription for men, has become the male makeup capital of the world.

South Korean men spent $495.5 million on skincare last year, accounting for nearly 21 percent of global sales, according to global market research firm Euromonitor International. That makes it the largest market for men's skincare in the world, even though there are only about 19 million men in South Korea. Amorepacific, South Korea's biggest cosmetics company, estimates the total sales of men's cosmetics in South Korea this year will be more than $885 million.

The metamorphosis of South Korean men from macho to makeup over the last decade or so can be partly explained by fierce competition for jobs, advancement and romance in a society where, as a popular catchphrase puts it, "appearance is power." Women also have a growing expectation that men will take the time and effort to pamper their skin.

Evidence of this new direction in South Korean masculinity is easy to find. In a crowded Seoul cafe, a young woman takes some lipstick out of her purse and casually applies it to her male companion's lips as they talk. At an upscale apartment building, a male security guard watches the lobby from behind a layer of makeup. Korean Air holds once-a-year makeup classes for male flight attendants.

"I can understand why girls don't like to go outside without makeup — it makes a big difference," said Cho Gil-nam, a tall, stocky 27-year-old insurance fraud investigator in Seoul who starts important days by dabbing on makeup after finishing his multistep morning cleansing and moisturizing routine. He carries a multicolored cosmetics pouch so he can touch up in public bathrooms throughout the day.

While U.S. cosmetics companies report growing sales in male cosmetics, American men are often wary of makeup. "Men Wearing Makeup a Disturbing Trend" was how American columnist Jim Shea titled a recent post.

In South Korea, however, effeminate male beauty is "a marker of social success," according to Roald Maliangkay, head of Korean studies at Australian National University.

Amorepacific Corp. offers 17 men's brands, with dozens of products to choose from, and operates two Manstudio stores in Seoul that are devoted to men's skincare and makeup.

South Korean men are barraged daily with messages in popular media suggesting that flawless skin is a crucial part of any plan to get ahead at work and romance.

"In this society, people's first impressions are very important. A man's skin is a big part of that impression, so I take care of my skin," said Kim Deuk-ryong, a 20-year-old student.

It wasn't always this way. The ideal South Korean man used to be rough and tough.

Things began to change in the late 1990s, when the South Korean government relaxed a ban on Japanese cultural goods, exposing South Koreans to different ideas on male beauty, including popular comics featuring pretty, effeminate men.

James Turnbull, a writer and lecturer on Korean feminism, sexuality and popular culture, said the economic crisis that hit South Korea in 1997 and 1998 also played a role in shifting thinking. Struggling companies often fired their female employees first, angering women who had already seen their push for equal rights take a backseat to protest movements against Japanese colonizers and the autocratic governments that followed.

"The times were ripe for a sea-change in the popular images of men in the media," Turnbull said. Women, as a result, began questioning the kinds of men society told them they should find attractive.

In 2002, large numbers were attracted to a hero of South Korea's World Cup soccer team, Ahn Jung-hwan, who became a leading member of the so-called "flower men" — a group of exceptionally good-looking, smooth-skinned, fashionable sports stars and celebrities who found great success selling male cosmetics. Men everywhere began striving to look like them, with the encouragement of the women around them, and a trend was born.

A decade later, ads featuring handsome, heavily made-up male celebrities are an unavoidable part of the urban scenery.

Kim Jong-hoon, a 27-year-old tech industry worker in Paju, said the endless media exposure to famous men with perfect skin helped steer his progression from soap and water to an elaborate regime that includes as many as eight steps, from cleanser to eye cream and lotion to a small amount of makeup powder.

"My skin wasn't bad, but the media constantly sends the message that skin is one of the most important things, so I wanted to take care of it," Kim said.

Once an oddity, men using makeup is now commonplace.

It's also a good source of conversation, said Kim Ae-kyung, 35, a female office worker.

"I feel like I have more to talk about with guys who use makeup — we have more in common," Kim said.
 

spidey07

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Hell no. Bunch of metro sissy boys. They even sound like girls "oh, but the magazines make us want to look beautiful and live up to perfection."
 

Phoenix86

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99.9% no. I don't understand that shit.

Of course if anyone here had the opportunity to be in film/T.V., I'd be they would say yes. ;)
 

jagec

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Anonemous

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I know that there is lots of plastic surgeries going on in SK but never heard of makeup. I guess this is the easier non invasive way to look good in SK.
 

Red Squirrel

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Those who seek to "look more confident" and crap like that are simply trying to compensate for their lack of work. If you work well and show a result, who cares how you dress or look, you are useful in achieving the company's goal and that's really what you are being paid for. It's not a fashion show.

That said don't show up wearing ripped clothes, or wearing the same shirt all week either. There's an old guy at my work that does that. He's super smart and knows his stuff when it comes to telecom since he's been in it since the start, but his hygiene is lacking.
 

Juddog

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I've wore makeup in the form of cover up if I have a giant zit or some such that's all red and gross looking. Usually that's not the case though.
 

actuarial

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Those who seek to "look more confident" and crap like that are simply trying to compensate for their lack of work. If you work well and show a result, who cares how you dress or look, you are useful in achieving the company's goal and that's really what you are being paid for. It's not a fashion show.

That's baloney. Everyone makes an extra effort to look good at important work functions. Are you telling me that you wear the same thing to a job interview you do on regular days? If you work in consulting, you can be sure you dress better when going to client meeting than just coming into the office. That has nothing to do with compensating for a lack of work. If taller people get paid more, it's not a stretch to think that other appearance features would earn you extra salary.

I don't think I'd feel comfortable wearing make-up (especially just for a day at the office), but it's not like wearing make-up would be a deal breaker if I was working in film/television. The again, it's probably just because I was raised not being used to it.

Is it really that much different than 'just for men'?
 

PowerYoga

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south korea'd. In the land where hip-hop boy bands are indistinguishable from girls it's not hard to believe this carries over to the workplace.
 

D1gger

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An old male university friend does. He works in Asia and says it is reasonably common for men to wear a thin layer of cover-up to make their skin look better.

I think he is nuts, and have always had a suspicion that he is gay.
 

spidey07

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An old male university friend does. He works in Asia and says it is reasonably common for men to wear a thin layer of cover-up to make their skin look better.

I think he is nuts, and have always had a suspicion that he is gay.

I believe he removed any doubt you may have had.
 

Hacp

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YES. What do Obama, Romney, McCain, Clinton(male), and other successful people have in common? Makeup!
 

Hacp

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An old male university friend does. He works in Asia and says it is reasonably common for men to wear a thin layer of cover-up to make their skin look better.

I think he is nuts, and have always had a suspicion that he is gay.

Do you thin Brad Pitt is gay? How about Jude Law? Hulk Hulgan?
 

natto fire

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My workplace is usually a construction site, so definitely no. Never had a white collar job, so can't say for sure what I would do in that situation.
 

olds

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I've worn leg make up on my ears.

Queue what was his name jokes
 

OverVolt

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Hell no. Bunch of metro sissy boys. They even sound like girls "oh, but the magazines make us want to look beautiful and live up to perfection."

"male-dominated country"

"appearance is power"

"a young woman takes some lipstick out of her purse and casually applies it to her male companion's lips as they talk"

"a marker of social success"

Oh yea they're so sissy, they should come to America and play xbox and have no gf.
 

blankslate

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Would I wear non clogging sunscreen to mitigate UV damage to my face yes I wear it when I'm outside during the summer.

Maybe skin care products targeted at men that reduce wrinkles...

Makeup? Fuck no.