Guys, need some MASSIVE help...

SaltyNuts

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Most of you like me. Some of you do not, because you are goobers and soy boys. But, for purposes of this thread, let's all come together and let bygones be bygones. Save your trolling and name calling for another thread, please. Below is a picture of a "chicken fried steak" from a cafeteria called Clebournes in Houston. AWESOME place. And that chicken fried steak is INCREDIBLE. I have tried to make it several times, but I just can't ever seem to make it taste anything like chicken fried steak. I am looking for ANY hints or tips as to how I might make something that tastes like it. Here is what I know:

1. I used to work a Luby's cafeteria. They made the same damned kind of chicken fried steak, and it tasted basically the exact same! BUT, they stopped making it years ago. When they made it they called it the "breaded beef cutlet", not a chicken friend steak.

2. While I was there, I watched them make it. So far as I can tell all they used for the crust was flour and saltine crackers. The only spices were salt and pepper. They would (I assume after coating the meat with milk, eggs or some combo, and then rolling in the cracker/flour mix) throw it on this big flat grill thing, just a big flat chunk of metal, and they has these big ladels where they would just ladel some oil on top of them.

3. I've tried to make them exactly as above, but it never comes out right, never even looks the same really. I've tried different cuts of meat too. Different cracker types, even tried bread crumbs and crap, nothing works. I've tried using little oil, consistent with them just ladeling on some oil as above, but no dice. Although my next step might be to try and use even less oil to try and make it brown more. But the taste just is not there. Its such a pure, clean taste that anything I've ever made, and other restaurant chicken fried steaks, cannot match. :(

Anyways, if anyone has any ideas, I'm all ears. If I could figure out how to make this chicken fried steak, a good seafood/shrimp gumbo like a place close to me (for another thread), and tex mex cheese enchiladas and tacos like I had when I grew up (also for another thread), my life would pretty much be complete.

Thank you gents, and, as always, Godspeed!


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mztykal

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Luby’s is terrible. The food is flavorless…

Your pic looks like a beef cutlet. Pretty much just breaded cube steak cooked in clarified butter…
 
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Captante

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Guys, need some MASSIVE help...


Tell us something we don't know! ;)


Also:

Chicken-Fried Steak

*(Texas Monthly recipe)

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Looks like a nice healthy snack there .... I feel sick looking at it! :dizzy:
 
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Torn Mind

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Tell us something we don't know! ;)


Also:

Chicken-Fried Steak

*(Texas Monthly recipe)

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Looks like a nice healthy snack there .... I feel sick looking at it! :dizzy:
If it was cooked in tallow or lard, I might have one once in a year. The cream I'd probably not like.

The meat is the healthiest part. The vegetable oil and flour are the worst, and the cream neutral.

I prefer my steaks with blood still tasting like blood. Just a little propane flame to heat the outside, and then it's eating time. But generally I do not like expensive steaks and whatever other cuts because of the tedious labor that is tenderizing the meats.
 
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SaltyNuts

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LOL snoopy, was that me? Had to be me. You don't know how many times I've googled shit and the only thing I've found is my posts on this forum asking about the same thing! Like I'm the only one genious enough to ask the important, intriguing questions LOL. Still, never get my questions really answered. :(
 

SaltyNuts

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Luby’s is terrible. The food is flavorless…

Your pic looks like a beef cutlet. Pretty much just breaded cube steak cooked in clarified butter…


I don't think its cooked in clarified butter, I literally saw them ladle the oil (probably vegitible or canola oil) onto the grill over the steaks.
 

SaltyNuts

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you saw cleburne cooking it on the grill?

No, I saw Luby's cooking it on the grill hundreds of times, and I have no doubt that Cleburne cooks it the same way given that the look and taste basically identical.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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You don't grill something breaded like that, you fry it in a little oil.

It's a shittier version of a schnitzel, you cook it identically. Just get the breading right for whatever flavor you're using, and use some bottom barrel stew meat for the interior like they do.
 

SaltyNuts

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Thanks Osiris. I guess its a bit of a matter of semantics. If you have a huge, flat "grill", then you put a breaded steak on there, then you ladle some oil over it, so the oil helps it cook, I guess you could call that "grilling" or "frying" it, as you are doing at least a bit of both.

But it DEFINATELY comes out looking (and tasting) fundamentally different then if you just submerge the breaded steak in hot oil to cook it.

I think maybe where I have goofed in the past is I add to much oil to my pan when I cook it, I need to try less oil to see if I can "brown" the steak better via the direct connection between the bottom of the pan and the steak crust.

Still, I've never even gotten it to taste anything close. :(
 

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You don't grill something breaded like that, you fry it in a little oil.

It's a shittier version of a schnitzel, you cook it identically. Just get the breading right for whatever flavor you're using, and use some bottom barrel stew meat for the interior like they do.
It's supposed to be cube steak, not stew meat (or you can get a steak and pound it out yourself).
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Thanks Osiris. I guess its a bit of a matter of semantics. If you have a huge, flat "grill", then you put a breaded steak on there, then you ladle some oil over it, so the oil helps it cook, I guess you could call that "grilling" or "frying" it, as you are doing at least a bit of both.

But it DEFINATELY comes out looking (and tasting) fundamentally different then if you just submerge the breaded steak in hot oil to cook it.

I think maybe where I have goofed in the past is I add to much oil to my pan when I cook it, I need to try less oil to see if I can "brown" the steak better via the direct connection between the bottom of the pan and the steak crust.

Still, I've never even gotten it to taste anything close. :(
That is a griddle (or 'large skillet' if you're vulgar), not a grill. A grill has the lines. Some griddles have a grill on one side, thusly:
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You cannot put oil on a grill, as it falls through, thus you cannot fry anything on a grill.

You should also not be 'submerging' anything in oil to lightly fry it, that's called 'deep frying', because you literally drown it in fry oil.

You should be lightly pan or griddle frying it, thusly:
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Use fresh oil only, don't re-use it like a heathen. Pound out your shitty hunk of meat with the flat side of a tenderizer, a rolling pin, or your head if you don't have either of the other two. Pat dry, flop around in all purpose flour (not in the bag, you fucking heathen), shake off, dip in egg wash, flop around in your bread mixture, into hot oil (medium heat or higher, but BELOW smoke point). Cook until both sides are brown, the center will be done.

It's supposed to be cube steak, not stew meat (or you can get a steak and pound it out yourself).
Yeah it's supposed to be, but unlikely that shitty piece of crap he posted up above is using anything other than the cheapest cut imaginable, and that's what he wants to recreate. So he gets stew meat covered in saltines.
 
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SaltyNuts

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Oh I see Osiris, it was a griddle for sure! But (i) they use a quality meat, I have no doubt, it tastes too good to not be top notch meat, and (ii) whatever you posted looks like COMPLETE shit LOL!!!
 

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i was hoping you accidently bought 1 20 ft container load of fertilizer and were worried about the metric conversion that happens in the port, as others are so worried about it.

also, you dolts, its sausage gravy, not a "cream sauce" and it's absofuckinglutly the way a good chicken fried steak should be served. with 2 over easy eggs and some GD crispy hash browns.

pound out that steak within about a half inch ( or 1 centimeter) of its life. dredge in AP flour, shake off excess, egg wash, not too heavy. dunk in favorite fry batter. about 1/2 in of oil in a cast iron skillet and pan fry on med to med high heat both sides.

this needs to be on my cook soon list now.
 

Scarpozzi

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There are a few tricks they use on chicken like that....salt and oil selection are important. Peanut oil is probably best for flavor and smoke point. Canola oil is great, but has a lower smoke point, so you can end up with bad flavors.

1. Wrap it in plastic wrap and whack it with a rolling pin to flatten the chicken. This helps make it a more even thickness for even cooking AND tenderizes it.
2. Soak it overnight in buttermilk or just plain milk (could also add a tsp or two of salt). The acid helps tenderize the chicken and if you use buttermilk, it actually adds flavor.

Aside from that, it's all about properly seasoning and double-dredging. You dip it in milk/egg....then flour....shake off excess....then let it rest for a few minutes....then repeat.

Make sure the oil is right temp, deep enough, and fry in batches to keep the oil temp up around 350 degrees Farenheit. Cook time will vary based on how thick your chicken cuts are after flattening them.