Guys let's support AMD gpu, and boycott Nvidia, Asus, Gigabyte, MSI

[holden j caufield]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/85qr4l/asus_gigabyte_and_msi_have_betrayed_us_all_dont/

I find this practice of stiffling competition poor form and as a consumer I never want there to be only 1 choice of GPU or CPU.

Seems like Nvidia unethical business practices have started.

If you are buying hardware please consider buying an AMD video card or CPU. If we let Nvidia win with such practices and they dominate more of the GPU market a monopoly will not help us consumers as we will later pay more for products, nor will there be innovation if we allow this to happen. I hope word spreads.

Thanks

 

[4K_shmoorK]

ASUS still has ROG STRIX in the title of all of their AMD GPUs, that reddit thread and the one it links to as a source seem to be linking to cards that never had 'GAMING' or branding in the title.

The ASUS card on amazon they sited as having the 'ROG STRIX' taken off of it has a picture of the DUAL OC version of the 580. But the ROG version still exists.
Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-ROG-STRIX-RX580-O8G-GAMINGOC-GDDR5-Ready-Graphics/dp/B071D8YQJD?th=1

ASUS:
https://www.asus.com/us/Graphics-Cards/ROG-STRIX-RX580-O8G-GAMING/

ASUS Cards (still with branding):
https://www.asus.com/us/Graphics-Cards/AMD-Series-Products/

MSI Cards (still with branding): Filter on AMD cards
https://us.msi.com/Graphics-cards

Gigabyte (still with branding):
https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Graphics-Card/AMD-Series

Maybe I'm just out of the loop, but how do they 'know' all gaming branding is being pulled? Stuff appears and reappears on Newegg/Amazon all the time. It looks like all the mentioned manufacturers in the reddit thread have not changed their product pages. Is there something I'm missing?

 

[Lordhumungus]

Whether or not the whole GPP program is as shady as it seems is up for debate, but I REALLY can't imagine companies being asked or required to retroactively pull products that are already in the channel with specific branding. Would retailers even agree to that?

 

[DaveSimmons]

Sorry, I'm not looking for just a midrange card.

Until AMD can compete with a 2080 ti they're off my shopping list for late 2018 / early 2019.

 

[Zero the hero]

Sadly voting with our wallets is the only choice we as consumers have. Now if only there was a competetive alternative...

 

[Chaotic42]

Sadly AMD doesn't make GPU products in my performance range, so there's nothing for me to buy.

 

[holden j caufield]

Sadly AMD doesn't make GPU products in my performance range, so there's nothing for me to buy.

I haven't kept up with gpu's actually, still running a 7970 from like 2013 and don't game anymore. This showed up on my feed and I thought I'd help spread the word. In the past the 2 were pretty close in price performance for my needs. I went with amd because of better linux, virtualizaton support and in 2013 it mined crypto better. Not sure about the current price/performance ratio, gaming implications. Just thought it was a dirty tactic by nvidia and I don't care which is the better brand, I just want there to be 2 companies so we keep innovating and the pricing is reasonable.

 

[Rifter]

As soon as AMD comes up with a GPU with equivalent performance and power usage and price to a 1080/1080Ti or the soon to be released 2080(or whatever they decide to call it, 1180 maybe) ill be all over it.

But if this doesn't happen by next Nvidia launch ill be forced to go Nvidia this time around.

I agree what Nvidia is doing is shady as hell and likely even illegal, but at the end of the day i need roughly 1080/1080Ti performance for what i wish to use my PC for and right now AMD is not offering it.

 

[Chaotic42]

I haven't kept up with gpu's actually, still running a 7970 from like 2013 and don't game anymore. This showed up on my feed and I thought I'd help spread the word. In the past the 2 were pretty close in price performance for my needs. I went with amd because of better linux, virtualizaton support and in 2013 it mined crypto better. Not sure about the current price/performance ratio, gaming implications. Just thought it was a dirty tactic by nvidia and I don't care which is the better brand, I just want there to be 2 companies so we keep innovating and the pricing is reasonable.

Their current offerings don't really come close to Nvidia at the high end. I did (and will continue to) buy Threadripper, which is an amazing product, so I definitely support AMD, I'm just not willing to have a crappy experience in some fleeting hope that my buying one of their cards will get them to match Nvidia at the high end. Maybe they need to sell off their GPU division to someone who can actually get it competitive. I don't know what the answer is.

 

[holden j caufield]

We'd like to avoid this

https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/85rnww/nvidia_has_been_sneaking_in_slower_geforce_mx150/

if you are naming them the same chip and ripping people off with 25% slower chip than advertised. People should have alternatives. In the future if there is only one dominate player this is the crap we will get stuck with. But if Vega isn't comparable to what nvidia has we just buy the best price/performance there is. I'm just saying if the difference in price/performance is small I'm buying AMD, if it's heavily favored in one direction I buy what's best for my wallet.

But I've also learned I shouldn't buy everything from Walmart or Amazon because it's marginally cheaper. Already I've seen all my favorite places go out of business and there's no longer competition no Sportsmart, Sport Chalet, Sports Authority, Toys R Us is going to be gone, I can't even begin to name everything around that is gone. It's sad when there is only a Walmart.

 

[4K_shmoorK]

I don’t think competitiveness of one company vs another really do anything for this discussion.

Not advocating for or against GPP, but where is the evidence that this is happening? Hundreds of comments on reddit yet links in the comments and OP do not support the claim that GPP is affecting MSI and ASUS ‘gaming’ branding. The gigabyte external enclosure evidence is inconclusive at best.

I have a hard time believing this would happen now with AIBs making money hand over fist with mining demand. Where’s the incentive?

 

[ZipSpeed]

Their current offerings don't really come close to Nvidia at the high end. I did (and will continue to) buy Threadripper, which is an amazing product, so I definitely support AMD, I'm just not willing to have a crappy experience in some fleeting hope that my buying one of their cards will get them to match Nvidia at the high end. Maybe they need to sell off their GPU division to someone who can actually get it competitive. I don't know what the answer is.

I don't think AMD will sell RTG seeing that they rely on both CPU and GPU for their semi-custom business. If anything, now that the CPU division isn't on its death knell, AMD can pump more money in RTG. But it will be years before we see any appreciable changes.

 

[IRobot23]

That's greed. I will stop recomending brands and nvidia to my friends and so on... I don't care as they don't.

 

[DaveSimmons]

We'd like to avoid this

https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/85rnww/nvidia_has_been_sneaking_in_slower_geforce_mx150/

if you are naming them the same chip and ripping people off with 25% slower chip than advertised. People should have alternatives. In the future if there is only one dominate player this is the crap we will get stuck with. But if Vega isn't comparable to what nvidia has we just buy the best price/performance there is. I'm just saying if the difference in price/performance is small I'm buying AMD, if it's heavily favored in one direction I buy what's best for my wallet.

But I've also learned I shouldn't buy everything from Walmart or Amazon because it's marginally cheaper. Already I've seen all my favorite places go out of business and there's no longer competition no Sportsmart, Sport Chalet, Sports Authority, Toys R Us is going to be gone, I can't even begin to name everything around that is gone. It's sad when there is only a Walmart.

AMD did this in December themselves with the 2 versions of the RX 560, so having competition apparently did not stop them from being "evil" either. And both had deceptive names for their mobile GPUs until nvidia mostly ended that with the 1xxx series.

 

[IRobot23]

ASUS still has ROG STRIX in the title of all of their AMD GPUs, that reddit thread and the one it links to as a source seem to be linking to cards that never had 'GAMING' or branding in the title.

The ASUS card on amazon they sited as having the 'ROG STRIX' taken off of it has a picture of the DUAL OC version of the 580. But the ROG version still exists.
Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-ROG-STRIX-RX580-O8G-GAMINGOC-GDDR5-Ready-Graphics/dp/B071D8YQJD?th=1

ASUS:
https://www.asus.com/us/Graphics-Cards/ROG-STRIX-RX580-O8G-GAMING/

ASUS Cards (still with branding):
https://www.asus.com/us/Graphics-Cards/AMD-Series-Products/

MSI Cards (still with branding): Filter on AMD cards
https://us.msi.com/Graphics-cards

Gigabyte (still with branding):
https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Graphics-Card/AMD-Series

Maybe I'm just out of the loop, but how do they 'know' all gaming branding is being pulled? Stuff appears and reappears on Newegg/Amazon all the time. It looks like all the mentioned manufacturers in the reddit thread have not changed their product pages. Is there something I'm missing?

Next time do bit more reasearch only us.msi is still advertising gaming rx products....
about asusu, we don't know, but we will see future products.

 

[IRobot23]

AMD did this in December themselves with the 2 versions of the RX 560, so having competition apparently did not stop them from being "evil" either. And both had deceptive names for their mobile GPUs until nvidia mostly ended that with the 1xxx series.

I don't know why do you support this.
Amd did that with sapphire rx 560, but if you remember rx 460 had less shader so they just sold few rx 460 as rx 560...

 

[Igo69]

I've bought Radeon R9 Fury card a couple of years ago and never been happier. The prices on Nvidia graphics cards have become ridiculous and very little to no difference in performance compared to AMD cards.

 

[ZipSpeed]

I've bought Radeon R9 Fury card a couple of years ago and never been happier. The prices on Nvidia graphics cards have become ridiculous and very little to no difference in performance compared to AMD cards.

Yeah, I got one too when they were blowing them out. No issues running most games at the higher settings @ 1440p. That said, if video card prices remain where they are when comes time to replace my R9 Fury, I am call it quits as a PC gamer and will move exclusively to console gaming, which is where I play mostly these days anyway.

 

[ElFenix]

We already have a GPP discussion thread, please continue to use it.

TIA

AT Moderator ElFenix