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Guy requests raise from WF CEO via email, cc's 200k people

Aside from the fact he annoyed countless co-workers this raise request is all about how much money WF has and says nothing about what the letter writer does to merit a raise.
 
Everyone in IT who was responsible for allowing some random employee to email 200k employees in a single email should be fired as well.
 
Lifted said:
Everyone in IT who was responsible for allowing some random employee to email 200k employees in a single email should be fired as well.
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Yea I thought about this. I'm not in IT, but something like this shouldn't really happen right? I mean, he could theoretically cc 200k co workers, but that doesn't mean they'll all actually receive it does it?
 
Lifted said:
Everyone in IT who was responsible for allowing some random employee to email 200k employees in a single email should be fired as well.
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my previous company prevented this from happening with the main group, but some woman found a bunch of smaller groups (last name A to B, B to C, etc) and added all of them on a scathing email about why she hated the company and was quitting.

that was one of the most memorable afternoons working there ever. employee productivity went through the floor until closing time 😀

also, they DIDN'T prevent someone from using that group to invite people to sametime chat. so we had a convo one morning with thousands of people in the same chat. :awe:
 
As long as there is an Email list (say something like Employees_all) it's very easy to mass email folks and very little IT can do about it. The issue is to keep from creating large email lists like that...but that would make it hard for corporate communications to send blanket messages to everyone at once....it's a bit of give and take.
 
Lifted said:
Everyone in IT who was responsible for allowing some random employee to email 200k employees in a single email should be fired as well.
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First thing that crossed my mind lol. Surprised it wasn't blacklisted as spam with that many people.

Anyway, I bet the CEO is wiping away his tears with his benjamins.
 
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He probably got this response," Your story has touch my heart, never before have I seen such bold thinking from a layperson, now about the $$, go fuck yourself, this is America, the land of the greedy, bonds between employer and employees went out the door in '73 in case you haven't noticed. In our eyes your not the "heart and soul" of the company but more like an easily replaceable tool and if that tool gets too expensive for our tastes, we will promptly replace you with a cheaper option, thanks, Mr.CEO..
 
GagHalfrunt said:
Yes. And security will likely rough him up on the way out the door.
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Nah... they need to wait a month for the story to die down, and then find an excuse to fire him for "performance" reasons.

Firing him now just will keep the story going viral, making the PR issue worse.
 
so, unless i missed something, emailing everyone seems intentional. where is this sender asking for a raise for himself only? he's saying to give a raise to everyone because of the amount of profit they make each year.
 
He will not be fired.

He very smartly mass distributed this letter and it was picked up by national and local news media. Wells would not dare risk the PR hit for firing this guy. If they are as evil and vindictive as some suggest, then he will basically get their version of exile to Siberia, but it will not be immediate. Wells will wait for the story to cycle out of the news, and then quietly reassign him. His new assignment will be tailored so that it is as miserable as possible with the intention that he gets frustrated and quit - hopefully months later, and quietly.

Though his grammar is lacking, he makes some very salient points. For those wishing to trumpet some kind of capitalistic "be lucky you have your job" ideology - don't. The very problem here is that competition has been largely eradicated in this industry, and jobs are scarce, and those that have them are oftentimes overworked.

Meanwhile, Wells is one of the best capitalized banks, and its profits are excessive relative to its needs and conservative planning. There is nothing wrong with taking a conservative approach to forecasting, and until loan runoff (a real problem for that bank) is curtailed, long term planning is an issue. However, the very valid point that the employee makes is that the current staff of the entire bank has been subjected to minimal raises (applied to below market pay for most positions) since the takeover of Wachovia in 2008. The high level managers and execs, on the other hand, have continued to enjoy lucrative pay increases and large bonuses usually disguised from casual perusal.

I am also surprised that a bank like Norwest (Norwest adopted the name when it acquired Wells) does not value a management approach that employs retaining the best employees by paying them near the top of the market. Stated plainly, it would best align with the other conservative business strategies they apply. However, in this one regard, they depart from form. Why?

Also, I'm very intrigued by the potential effect of $3 Billion additional annual consumer wages in the US economy - a seemingly small pebble with a very meaningful ripple effect. The dollars would be put right back into the consumer economy immediately, and continually (not a one time payment, but annual salaries). It is staggering that this type of action by a single company would have such a potentially dramatic effect - the size and scale of the megacorporations in the US is such that they rival the federal government in terms of economic impact. That is a troubling thought. Here is a chance for a PR win for the bank; one that proves that there is a more positive side to that concern.
 
pontifex said:
so, unless i missed something, emailing everyone seems intentional. where is this sender asking for a raise for himself only? he's saying to give a raise to everyone because of the amount of profit they make each year.
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You are correct.

Some additional information about him (that he has offered in interviews):

He works (basically) in consumer dispute resolution for the bank, and makes about $15/hr ($30k/yr). He has been with the bank for several years, having started at $13/hr. He lives in the pacific NW in an area that is not amongst those that would be classified as having a low cost of living.

He is very representative of a great # of their employees.

I will admit, I hope some of the usual suspects (Colbert, Daily Show, and hopefully some of the more respected news outlets) take the ball and run with it. This is a very interesting "test case" on the issue of income inequality. And I will let you know that the Wells brass is very aware of it, and while they will handle it as slickly and professionally as they can - they know that they potentially face very steep public repercussions for their choices in recent years. They will never ever publicly admit this.
 
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TheAdvocate said:
Though his grammar is lacking, he makes some very salient points. For those wishing to trumpet some kind of capitalistic "be lucky you have your job" ideology - don't. The very problem here is that competition has been largely eradicated in this industry, and jobs are scarce, and those that have them are oftentimes overworked.
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his point was "you guys make a lot of money, give us some!"
 
IMO, it's rather idiotic of him to make a plea to the CEO for generosity, while in the same missive encouraging all employees to "demand" that they be fairly compensated. Two distinct messages that do not mix well at all.
 
Tell me more why you feel entitled to $10K that belongs to retirees?

If he wanted to do something smart, he'd ask for wells fargo to support corporate education programs, so he can gain skills that will allow him to clear more than $13/hr.
 
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