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guy falls from stands at rangers game and dies! (youtube)

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Sad story. What was supposed to be just fun outing at the ballpark that turned tragic over something most people wouldn't even think twice about (leaning over to catch a souvenir ball). Hopefully, everyone involved does the right thing, and it doesn't have to come to a lawsuit.
 
CZroe said:
Uhh, not everywhere. How about just the places where they are suspended above a drop and often reaching to catch things that are out of reach?

Even just a 1m wide net stretched across that area at almost the same level would've done the trick.

I hate nanny laws but, as long as there is no law mandating a net, I'm just fine with them determining negligence in this case.
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you said it was grounds for a suit. why?
was he forced to attempt to catch the ball by anyone associated with the organization?
was he pushed by a stadium employee?
was there not already a railing there?

or did he make the choice on his own to attempt to catch a ball?
yes, it was an unfortunate accident, but the blame falls on no one but himself.
how about holding people responsible for their own actions instead of pinning it on someone else?
 
waggy said:
meh his fault. can't blame anyone else. IF he wouldn't have tried to get in front of the other people he wouldn't have lost his balance and fell.


i feel for his son who was with him. sad event.
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I agree with this. Shouldn't of been so greedy to jump in front of the guy with the glove next to him. Sad situation, but instant karma.
 
BlahBlahYouToo said:
fuck all of you that think about lawsuit.

the guy was a klutz and didn't have the coordination or spatial awareness to make the catch without falling.

HIS CHOICE. HIS RESPONSIBILITY.
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Have you ever bought a ladder at a store? Check out the number of warnings on the thing. No you are not supposed to get on the top step... but people do and then they sue the ladder manafacturer because the warning label was too small or some other dumb crap.

Yes his mistake and his choice... but that is not going to stop anyone from suing. I bet players will be soon banned from throwing balls into the stands or something.
 
BlahBlahYouToo said:
you said it was grounds for a suit. why?
was he forced to attempt to catch the ball by anyone associated with the organization?
was he pushed by a stadium employee?
was there not already a railing there?

or did he make the choice on his own to attempt to catch a ball?
yes, it was an unfortunate accident, but the blame falls on no one but himself.
how about holding people responsible for their own actions instead of pinning it on someone else?
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If you get hurt on someone else's property it can almost always be blamed on them somehow. It sucks.
 
This would be an easy lawsuit.

One guy already fell and they did nothing to make it safer. Now a second one falls.
It is obviously a safety issue with the stadium and the railing being too low.

Look at the pictures. It is not even waist high.
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It may be this guys fault, but the stadium has a responsibility to provide a safe environment and to anticipate the type of behavior people will exhibit during a ball game and leaning over the rails to catch balls is an every day occurrence at ballparks around the country.
 
BlahBlahYouToo said:
you said it was grounds for a suit. why?
was he forced to attempt to catch the ball by anyone associated with the organization?
was he pushed by a stadium employee?
was there not already a railing there?

or did he make the choice on his own to attempt to catch a ball?
yes, it was an unfortunate accident, but the blame falls on no one but himself.
how about holding people responsible for their own actions instead of pinning it on someone else?
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You ask those questions as if there isn't a good answer even when there is.

I say that it's grounds for a suit because a minimal amount of effort could have prevented a likely, foreseeable, deadly, scenario. The design was such that there was a gap and a drop right where people would likely be leaning and reaching. It does not appear that there was any reason for that gap to remain open. I may be wrong, but a lawsuit would determine that. A tiny bit of netting between the wall and the bleachers is all that was required to prevent this likely scenario and it could easily be considered a design fault. I've seen people justifiably sue over less.
 
IcePickFreak said:
waggy said:
meh his fault. can't blame anyone else. IF he wouldn't have tried to get in front of the other people he wouldn't have lost his balance and fell.


i feel for his son who was with him. sad event.
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I agree with this. Shouldn't of been so greedy to jump in front of the guy with the glove next to him. Sad situation, but instant karma.
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I see a disagreement. Also, karma != fault.
 
rudder said:
I bet players will be soon banned from throwing balls into the stands or something.
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Are they going to ban foul balls and home runs to? Some fan might die trying to catch one of these also...

They need to replace all of the concrete in the aisles and stairways with some kind of foam or rubber material...someone might trip and fall down the stairs...same thing in the bathrooms...that could be real nasty if someone slips on the tile floor and hits their head on a urinal or toilet...and no more electricity in the park...it might start a fire and kill someone in the park...

what else can we anticipate that might happen that would need to 'fixed' so no one else gets hurt???
 
ProfJohn said:
This would be an easy lawsuit.

One guy already fell and they did nothing to make it safer. Now a second one falls.
It is obviously a safety issue with the stadium and the railing being too low.

Look at the pictures. It is not even waist high.
dal_a_rangers_fan_fell_b2_300.jpg

It may be this guys fault, but the stadium has a responsibility to provide a safe environment and to anticipate the type of behavior people will exhibit during a ball game and leaning over the rails to catch balls is an every day occurrence at ballparks around the country.
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I wonder how many other ball parks have similar fence heights over tunnels and walkways below?
 
CZroe said:
You ask those questions as if there isn't a good answer even when there is.

I say that it's grounds for a suit because a minimal amount of effort could have prevented a likely, foreseeable, deadly, scenario. The design was such that there was a gap and a drop right where people would likely be leaning and reaching. It does not appear that there was any reason for that gap to remain open. I may be wrong, but a lawsuit would determine that. A tiny bit of netting between the wall and the bleachers is all that was required to prevent this likely scenario and it could easily be considered a design fault. I've seen people justifiably sue over less.
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You have never heard of a slippery slope, have you? There is no such thing as a "minimal amount of effort".
 
ugh...I'm so sad for the son. It makes me almost tear up, I could never imagine my son having to face something like that the rest of his life. poor kid....
 
foghorn67 said:
You have never heard of a slippery slope, have you? There is no such thing as a "minimal amount of effort".
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Like I said, I don't think there should be a law. When it comes to people's lives, I believe this particular instance can easily be found to be "negligent." That's all.
 
BlahBlahYouToo said:
yup, and it makes no sense whatsoever.
stupid judges/juries should stop ruling in favor of idiots.
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Wrong. Everyone should be held accountable for their actions. Even property owners. It often takes a minimal amount of effort to prevent horrible tragedies such as this one. I, for one, hope that the owner of this team does the right thing and takes care of this kid and his family. If they don't then there will have to be a lawsuit.

As to your comment about judges/juries being stupid and persons raising lawsuits being idiots you are ignorant. Unfortunately, a lawsuit is what is needed to get insurance companies to pay out according to their policies.
 
So how did he die?
I heard that he went into cardiac arrest and never recovered, but was it caused by head and neck trauma and blood loss, internal organ damage, shock...? I would assume massive head trauma and brain swelling, and perhaps paralysis, but how would that lead to cardiac arrest (unless he had heart trouble before).
 
ProfJohn said:
This would be an easy lawsuit.

One guy already fell and they did nothing to make it safer. Now a second one falls.
It is obviously a safety issue with the stadium and the railing being too low.

Look at the pictures. It is not even waist high.
dal_a_rangers_fan_fell_b2_300.jpg

It may be this guys fault, but the stadium has a responsibility to provide a safe environment and to anticipate the type of behavior people will exhibit during a ball game and leaning over the rails to catch balls is an every day occurrence at ballparks around the country.
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😛 its at that height so the seated people can see....
 
Sad and tragic story 🙁

I hope nobody sues anyone over this; sometimes tragic things happen, and they just happen.
 
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