Guy at UCLA computer lab gets tasered (now with youtube video!!)

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Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: SampSon
The police are lucky they weren't the unwilling participants in a riot. Does Kent state ring a bell?

Tazers were not necessary by any stretch of the imagination. The police regularly take down full size men, who have violent intentions, without using a tazer.
In this case it was what, at least 3 fully dressed policemen? One of the officers threatened a bystander when asked for his badge information?
That officer was already starting to cover his ass. The officers weren't even trying to control the crowd. They didn't give their badge information when requested and threatened a citizen on top of that. Incompetence is abound.

On a side note, when did the population (the cross section I see here) become so complacent?

Here's my gripe about this. The taser has become the alternative to physical force. Where police used to just manhandle a person, now they taser. Tasers are used without thought of consequences.
Definitely. Tasers are an extremely dangerous weapon. Everyone really thinks they are benign because of the "non-lethal" label attached to them. Reality is that tasers can kill you easily.

Please inform me of these serious consequences.
Brain damage, cardiac arrest, death.

Not to mention the possibility of damage from an uncontrolled fall, muscle pain and weakness for quite some time, and any hazard from existing medical conditions. The tazers are not a temporary fire and forget weapon. The damage is not minute and instantly wear off.
 

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i still don't understand how ppl don't realize that the force used in this situation (from the evidence we have available to us) was completely out of line (even with what most other reasonable police officers would have done in a similar situation). are you telling me that 3 police officers couldn't drag a college student out the library? how hard could it have been if he was limp? he wasn't kicking or physically assaulting the officers.

what the fvck do you think officers did before they started using tasers?

every time i think about this and the idiotic responses i've read justifying the use of police force (EVEN WHEN IT IS WRONG) infuriates me. it would be an absolute shame (and just a reiteration of what is wrong with the criminal justice system) if this behavior goes without punishment.
 

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Originally posted by: SampSon
The police are lucky they weren't the unwilling participants in a riot. Does Kent state ring a bell?

Tazers were not necessary by any stretch of the imagination. The police regularly take down full size men, who have violent intentions, without using a tazer.
In this case it was what, at least 3 fully dressed policemen? One of the officers threatened a bystander when asked for his badge information?
That officer was already starting to cover his ass. The officers weren't even trying to control the crowd. They didn't give their badge information when requested and threatened a citizen on top of that. Incompetence is abound.

On a side note, when did the population (the cross section I see here) become so complacent?


Consider the location. They are inside a library. The tazer is probably the safest way to insure compliance.



 

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this happened to me earlier today at my college(cu boulder) i didnt get tazed or nothing but i got arrested and held till they could confirm i was a student, they wouldnt even let me reach into my wallet to show them my student id i had on me and when they asked if i had a wallet they kept insisting the person in the picture wasnt me. i saw this video and i felt for the guy. the librarian didnt even ask me to leave and when the cops came they said i had to and i packed up my laptop and stuff and was headed out the door and when i was outside they cuffed me

EDIT: campus pd up here are bored and looking for excuses to write you a ticket, i just got a ticket written up on my car for not having a parking pass hanging from my rear view mirror, instead i ahd it on my dashboard, and its a 50 dollar fine.
 

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Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: SampSon
The police are lucky they weren't the unwilling participants in a riot. Does Kent state ring a bell?

Tazers were not necessary by any stretch of the imagination. The police regularly take down full size men, who have violent intentions, without using a tazer.
In this case it was what, at least 3 fully dressed policemen? One of the officers threatened a bystander when asked for his badge information?
That officer was already starting to cover his ass. The officers weren't even trying to control the crowd. They didn't give their badge information when requested and threatened a citizen on top of that. Incompetence is abound.

On a side note, when did the population (the cross section I see here) become so complacent?


Consider the location. They are inside a library. The tazer is probably the safest way to insure compliance.

are you serious?
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: SampSon
The police are lucky they weren't the unwilling participants in a riot. Does Kent state ring a bell?

Tazers were not necessary by any stretch of the imagination. The police regularly take down full size men, who have violent intentions, without using a tazer.
In this case it was what, at least 3 fully dressed policemen? One of the officers threatened a bystander when asked for his badge information?
That officer was already starting to cover his ass. The officers weren't even trying to control the crowd. They didn't give their badge information when requested and threatened a citizen on top of that. Incompetence is abound.

On a side note, when did the population (the cross section I see here) become so complacent?


Consider the location. They are inside a library. The tazer is probably the safest way to insure compliance.

That's like using a hatchet for surgery simply because they were too lazy to write a prescription.
 
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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: SampSon
The police are lucky they weren't the unwilling participants in a riot. Does Kent state ring a bell?

Tazers were not necessary by any stretch of the imagination. The police regularly take down full size men, who have violent intentions, without using a tazer.
In this case it was what, at least 3 fully dressed policemen? One of the officers threatened a bystander when asked for his badge information?
That officer was already starting to cover his ass. The officers weren't even trying to control the crowd. They didn't give their badge information when requested and threatened a citizen on top of that. Incompetence is abound.

On a side note, when did the population (the cross section I see here) become so complacent?


Consider the location. They are inside a library. The tazer is probably the safest way to insure compliance.

That's like using a hatchet for surgery simply because they were too lazy to write a prescription.

Please, he was in an open area. That lab looks a LOT larger than the labs at our school. It seems like the area was actualyl built to be a lab, and so there's plenty of space. If you're telling me he can't be forced to get down and get cuffed, you're being ridiculous. Especialyl when you see 50 other bystanders watching, you're telling me you can't just take down the guy? WHen everyone is shouting, and watching and wahtever it is, I think it's fine to take the guy down and cuff him and haul him out.

You will get a LOT LESS attention by doing that than tasering him 5 times cuffing him and haul him out screaming and then threaten the crowd.
 

Number1

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Originally posted by: maziwanka
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: SampSon
The police are lucky they weren't the unwilling participants in a riot. Does Kent state ring a bell?

Tazers were not necessary by any stretch of the imagination. The police regularly take down full size men, who have violent intentions, without using a tazer.
In this case it was what, at least 3 fully dressed policemen? One of the officers threatened a bystander when asked for his badge information?
That officer was already starting to cover his ass. The officers weren't even trying to control the crowd. They didn't give their badge information when requested and threatened a citizen on top of that. Incompetence is abound.

On a side note, when did the population (the cross section I see here) become so complacent?


Consider the location. They are inside a library. The tazer is probably the safest way to insure compliance.

are you serious?

Sit back, relax, nobody got hurt.
I think the police acted correctly. If there is any kind of investigation, they will be foud to have acted lawfully.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: DLeRium
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: SampSon
The police are lucky they weren't the unwilling participants in a riot. Does Kent state ring a bell?

Tazers were not necessary by any stretch of the imagination. The police regularly take down full size men, who have violent intentions, without using a tazer.
In this case it was what, at least 3 fully dressed policemen? One of the officers threatened a bystander when asked for his badge information?
That officer was already starting to cover his ass. The officers weren't even trying to control the crowd. They didn't give their badge information when requested and threatened a citizen on top of that. Incompetence is abound.

On a side note, when did the population (the cross section I see here) become so complacent?


Consider the location. They are inside a library. The tazer is probably the safest way to insure compliance.

That's like using a hatchet for surgery simply because they were too lazy to write a prescription.

Please, he was in an open area. That lab looks a LOT larger than the labs at our school. It seems like the area was actualyl built to be a lab, and so there's plenty of space. If you're telling me he can't be forced to get down and get cuffed, you're being ridiculous. Especialyl when you see 50 other bystanders watching, you're telling me you can't just take down the guy? WHen everyone is shouting, and watching and wahtever it is, I think it's fine to take the guy down and cuff him and haul him out.

You will get a LOT LESS attention by doing that than tasering him 5 times cuffing him and haul him out screaming and then threaten the crowd.

Yep. Tazers have become a way to avoid actual physical arrests.
 
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Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: maziwanka
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: SampSon
The police are lucky they weren't the unwilling participants in a riot. Does Kent state ring a bell?

Tazers were not necessary by any stretch of the imagination. The police regularly take down full size men, who have violent intentions, without using a tazer.
In this case it was what, at least 3 fully dressed policemen? One of the officers threatened a bystander when asked for his badge information?
That officer was already starting to cover his ass. The officers weren't even trying to control the crowd. They didn't give their badge information when requested and threatened a citizen on top of that. Incompetence is abound.

On a side note, when did the population (the cross section I see here) become so complacent?


Consider the location. They are inside a library. The tazer is probably the safest way to insure compliance.

are you serious?

Sit back, relax, nobody got hurt.
I think the police acted correctly. If there is any kind of investigation, they will be foud to have acted lawfully.

It's like Jack Bauer when he shoots a guy in the leg to get information. He just gets away with it because its easy to sweep these things under the rug. Similarl;y, if thye're found to have acted lawfully its because there's a lot of bias and unwillingness to discipline the UCPD rather than a true belief in lawful action.
 

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: SampSon
The police are lucky they weren't the unwilling participants in a riot. Does Kent state ring a bell?

Tazers were not necessary by any stretch of the imagination. The police regularly take down full size men, who have violent intentions, without using a tazer.
In this case it was what, at least 3 fully dressed policemen? One of the officers threatened a bystander when asked for his badge information?
That officer was already starting to cover his ass. The officers weren't even trying to control the crowd. They didn't give their badge information when requested and threatened a citizen on top of that. Incompetence is abound.

On a side note, when did the population (the cross section I see here) become so complacent?


Consider the location. They are inside a library. The tazer is probably the safest way to insure compliance.

That's like using a hatchet for surgery simply because they were too lazy to write a prescription.

They grabed his arm and he resisted. What should be the next step?
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: SampSon
The police are lucky they weren't the unwilling participants in a riot. Does Kent state ring a bell?

Tazers were not necessary by any stretch of the imagination. The police regularly take down full size men, who have violent intentions, without using a tazer.
In this case it was what, at least 3 fully dressed policemen? One of the officers threatened a bystander when asked for his badge information?
That officer was already starting to cover his ass. The officers weren't even trying to control the crowd. They didn't give their badge information when requested and threatened a citizen on top of that. Incompetence is abound.

On a side note, when did the population (the cross section I see here) become so complacent?


Consider the location. They are inside a library. The tazer is probably the safest way to insure compliance.

That's like using a hatchet for surgery simply because they were too lazy to write a prescription.

They grabed his arm and he resisted. What should be the next step?

One, they grabbed his arm when he was walking out and he said let go. That's not resisting.

Secondly, obviously they should have shot him directly in the face. What else would please all of you?
 

SampSon

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Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: SampSon
The police are lucky they weren't the unwilling participants in a riot. Does Kent state ring a bell?

Tazers were not necessary by any stretch of the imagination. The police regularly take down full size men, who have violent intentions, without using a tazer.
In this case it was what, at least 3 fully dressed policemen? One of the officers threatened a bystander when asked for his badge information?
That officer was already starting to cover his ass. The officers weren't even trying to control the crowd. They didn't give their badge information when requested and threatened a citizen on top of that. Incompetence is abound.

On a side note, when did the population (the cross section I see here) become so complacent?


Consider the location. They are inside a library. The tazer is probably the safest way to insure compliance.
I hate to reference TV, but have you ever watched any cop shows?
They take down violent, drugged up criminals in hallways, dark alleys, hole-in-the-wall apartments, cars/trucks, just about anywhere.

The safest way to insure compliance is not to use a weapon. The safest way to "insure" compliance is by power in numbers, the police already had that.


 

HybridSquirrel

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Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: maziwanka
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: SampSon
The police are lucky they weren't the unwilling participants in a riot. Does Kent state ring a bell?

Tazers were not necessary by any stretch of the imagination. The police regularly take down full size men, who have violent intentions, without using a tazer.
In this case it was what, at least 3 fully dressed policemen? One of the officers threatened a bystander when asked for his badge information?
That officer was already starting to cover his ass. The officers weren't even trying to control the crowd. They didn't give their badge information when requested and threatened a citizen on top of that. Incompetence is abound.

On a side note, when did the population (the cross section I see here) become so complacent?


Consider the location. They are inside a library. The tazer is probably the safest way to insure compliance.

are you serious?

Sit back, relax, nobody got hurt.
I think the police acted correctly. If there is any kind of investigation, they will be foud to have acted lawfully.


i think you are dumb, they taze a guy for not leaving a library? wtf is that ****** i can see tazing someone for not leaving a secure area in the air port, but not a library its just stupid
 

Number1

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Originally posted by: DLeRium
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: SampSon
The police are lucky they weren't the unwilling participants in a riot. Does Kent state ring a bell?

Tazers were not necessary by any stretch of the imagination. The police regularly take down full size men, who have violent intentions, without using a tazer.
In this case it was what, at least 3 fully dressed policemen? One of the officers threatened a bystander when asked for his badge information?
That officer was already starting to cover his ass. The officers weren't even trying to control the crowd. They didn't give their badge information when requested and threatened a citizen on top of that. Incompetence is abound.

On a side note, when did the population (the cross section I see here) become so complacent?


Consider the location. They are inside a library. The tazer is probably the safest way to insure compliance.

That's like using a hatchet for surgery simply because they were too lazy to write a prescription.

Please, he was in an open area. That lab looks a LOT larger than the labs at our school. It seems like the area was actualyl built to be a lab, and so there's plenty of space. If you're telling me he can't be forced to get down and get cuffed, you're being ridiculous. Especialyl when you see 50 other bystanders watching, you're telling me you can't just take down the guy? WHen everyone is shouting, and watching and wahtever it is, I think it's fine to take the guy down and cuff him and haul him out.

You will get a LOT LESS attention by doing that than tasering him 5 times cuffing him and haul him out screaming and then threaten the crowd.

As I said, nobody got hurt.
 

HybridSquirrel

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Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: DLeRium
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: SampSon
The police are lucky they weren't the unwilling participants in a riot. Does Kent state ring a bell?

Tazers were not necessary by any stretch of the imagination. The police regularly take down full size men, who have violent intentions, without using a tazer.
In this case it was what, at least 3 fully dressed policemen? One of the officers threatened a bystander when asked for his badge information?
That officer was already starting to cover his ass. The officers weren't even trying to control the crowd. They didn't give their badge information when requested and threatened a citizen on top of that. Incompetence is abound.

On a side note, when did the population (the cross section I see here) become so complacent?


Consider the location. They are inside a library. The tazer is probably the safest way to insure compliance.

That's like using a hatchet for surgery simply because they were too lazy to write a prescription.

Please, he was in an open area. That lab looks a LOT larger than the labs at our school. It seems like the area was actualyl built to be a lab, and so there's plenty of space. If you're telling me he can't be forced to get down and get cuffed, you're being ridiculous. Especialyl when you see 50 other bystanders watching, you're telling me you can't just take down the guy? WHen everyone is shouting, and watching and wahtever it is, I think it's fine to take the guy down and cuff him and haul him out.

You will get a LOT LESS attention by doing that than tasering him 5 times cuffing him and haul him out screaming and then threaten the crowd.

As I said, nobody got hurt.


except for the guy paying 20k a year to go to UCLA and getting tazed 5times for not leaving a library
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: DLeRium
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: SampSon
The police are lucky they weren't the unwilling participants in a riot. Does Kent state ring a bell?

Tazers were not necessary by any stretch of the imagination. The police regularly take down full size men, who have violent intentions, without using a tazer.
In this case it was what, at least 3 fully dressed policemen? One of the officers threatened a bystander when asked for his badge information?
That officer was already starting to cover his ass. The officers weren't even trying to control the crowd. They didn't give their badge information when requested and threatened a citizen on top of that. Incompetence is abound.

On a side note, when did the population (the cross section I see here) become so complacent?


Consider the location. They are inside a library. The tazer is probably the safest way to insure compliance.

That's like using a hatchet for surgery simply because they were too lazy to write a prescription.

Please, he was in an open area. That lab looks a LOT larger than the labs at our school. It seems like the area was actualyl built to be a lab, and so there's plenty of space. If you're telling me he can't be forced to get down and get cuffed, you're being ridiculous. Especialyl when you see 50 other bystanders watching, you're telling me you can't just take down the guy? WHen everyone is shouting, and watching and wahtever it is, I think it's fine to take the guy down and cuff him and haul him out.

You will get a LOT LESS attention by doing that than tasering him 5 times cuffing him and haul him out screaming and then threaten the crowd.

As I said, nobody got hurt.

Minus the guy that was tazed 5 times. I'll make you a deal, you let me taze you five times, and if doesn't hurt you can claim victory.
 

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Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: DLeRium
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: SampSon
The police are lucky they weren't the unwilling participants in a riot. Does Kent state ring a bell?

Tazers were not necessary by any stretch of the imagination. The police regularly take down full size men, who have violent intentions, without using a tazer.
In this case it was what, at least 3 fully dressed policemen? One of the officers threatened a bystander when asked for his badge information?
That officer was already starting to cover his ass. The officers weren't even trying to control the crowd. They didn't give their badge information when requested and threatened a citizen on top of that. Incompetence is abound.

On a side note, when did the population (the cross section I see here) become so complacent?


Consider the location. They are inside a library. The tazer is probably the safest way to insure compliance.

That's like using a hatchet for surgery simply because they were too lazy to write a prescription.

Please, he was in an open area. That lab looks a LOT larger than the labs at our school. It seems like the area was actualyl built to be a lab, and so there's plenty of space. If you're telling me he can't be forced to get down and get cuffed, you're being ridiculous. Especialyl when you see 50 other bystanders watching, you're telling me you can't just take down the guy? WHen everyone is shouting, and watching and wahtever it is, I think it's fine to take the guy down and cuff him and haul him out.

You will get a LOT LESS attention by doing that than tasering him 5 times cuffing him and haul him out screaming and then threaten the crowd.

As I said, nobody got hurt.

How is that a justification?

I just discharged my shotgun in the town square. No one got hurt. So its ok.

What if he did get hurt?

 

Number1

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Originally posted by: HybridSquirrel
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: maziwanka
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: SampSon
The police are lucky they weren't the unwilling participants in a riot. Does Kent state ring a bell?

Tazers were not necessary by any stretch of the imagination. The police regularly take down full size men, who have violent intentions, without using a tazer.
In this case it was what, at least 3 fully dressed policemen? One of the officers threatened a bystander when asked for his badge information?
That officer was already starting to cover his ass. The officers weren't even trying to control the crowd. They didn't give their badge information when requested and threatened a citizen on top of that. Incompetence is abound.

On a side note, when did the population (the cross section I see here) become so complacent?


Consider the location. They are inside a library. The tazer is probably the safest way to insure compliance.

are you serious?

Sit back, relax, nobody got hurt.
I think the police acted correctly. If there is any kind of investigation, they will be foud to have acted lawfully.


i think you are dumb, they taze a guy for not leaving a library? wtf is that ****** i can see tazing someone for not leaving a secure area in the air port, but not a library its just stupid

Whats with the name calling?
 
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Originally posted by: HybridSquirrel
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: DLeRium
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: SampSon
The police are lucky they weren't the unwilling participants in a riot. Does Kent state ring a bell?

Tazers were not necessary by any stretch of the imagination. The police regularly take down full size men, who have violent intentions, without using a tazer.
In this case it was what, at least 3 fully dressed policemen? One of the officers threatened a bystander when asked for his badge information?
That officer was already starting to cover his ass. The officers weren't even trying to control the crowd. They didn't give their badge information when requested and threatened a citizen on top of that. Incompetence is abound.

On a side note, when did the population (the cross section I see here) become so complacent?


Consider the location. They are inside a library. The tazer is probably the safest way to insure compliance.

That's like using a hatchet for surgery simply because they were too lazy to write a prescription.

Please, he was in an open area. That lab looks a LOT larger than the labs at our school. It seems like the area was actualyl built to be a lab, and so there's plenty of space. If you're telling me he can't be forced to get down and get cuffed, you're being ridiculous. Especialyl when you see 50 other bystanders watching, you're telling me you can't just take down the guy? WHen everyone is shouting, and watching and wahtever it is, I think it's fine to take the guy down and cuff him and haul him out.

You will get a LOT LESS attention by doing that than tasering him 5 times cuffing him and haul him out screaming and then threaten the crowd.

As I said, nobody got hurt.


except for the guy paying 20k a year to go to UCLA and getting tazed 5times for not leaving a library

Yea, so shoot him and say "nobody got hurt." Look, even if this happened in an airport, people would be like "WTF." I mean in an airport I agree, the first taze is totally legit, but after that just drag him away. Even if you tazered him 5 times because he ran through security, I think bystanders would be disgusted and the police would get lots of flak.

Now we're in a freaking LIBRARY. a PUBLIC LOCATION. The kid is not violating national security laws. He forgot his ID and he's harmless, and you're going to tazer him 5 times and say it's justified? Goodness.
 

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Originally posted by: Mill

There's a correct way to police and there's a wrong way. These guys did it the wrong way, and a way that will likely create mistrust in the community as well as possibly cost them their jobs, or at the very least subject them to discipline. All of that could have been avoided if they had taken a more genial approach.

I agree.

Originally posted by: DLeRium


You will get a LOT LESS attention by doing that than tasering him 5 times cuffing him and haul him out screaming and then threaten the crowd.
its much easier to incite the student into resistance to afford themselves the opportunity to use the tazer. how often do they get to use it?



it seems that people, in their anti-social knee-jerk "oh hes just a punk kid" reaction, seem to forget that the police are NOT judge nor jury nor executioner. their job here is to seize the subject to their end-goal of removing him from the premises and/or retaining him for further prosecution. that could be more calmly quickly and easily achieved by cuffing and dragging him outside. remember - its not their duty to punish the subject for resistance; theyre there to make an arrest

but since i skipped 8 pages im just regurgitating...
 

Number1

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Originally posted by: LS20
Originally posted by: Mill

There's a correct way to police and there's a wrong way. These guys did it the wrong way, and a way that will likely create mistrust in the community as well as possibly cost them their jobs, or at the very least subject them to discipline. All of that could have been avoided if they had taken a more genial approach.

I agree.

Originally posted by: DLeRium


You will get a LOT LESS attention by doing that than tasering him 5 times cuffing him and haul him out screaming and then threaten the crowd.
its much easier to incite the student into resistance to afford themselves the opportunity to use the tazer. how often do they get to use it?



it seems that people, in their anti-social knee-jerk "oh hes just a punk kid" reaction, seem to forget that the police are NOT judge nor jury nor executioner. their job here is to seize the subject to their end-goal of removing him from the premises and/or retaining him for further prosecution. that could be more calmly quickly and easily achieved by cuffing and dragging him outside. remember - its not their duty to punish the subject for resistance; theyre there to make an arrest
but since i skipped 8 pages im just regurgitating...

Good point. I can agree with that.
 

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Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: HybridSquirrel
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: maziwanka
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: SampSon
The police are lucky they weren't the unwilling participants in a riot. Does Kent state ring a bell?

Tazers were not necessary by any stretch of the imagination. The police regularly take down full size men, who have violent intentions, without using a tazer.
In this case it was what, at least 3 fully dressed policemen? One of the officers threatened a bystander when asked for his badge information?
That officer was already starting to cover his ass. The officers weren't even trying to control the crowd. They didn't give their badge information when requested and threatened a citizen on top of that. Incompetence is abound.

On a side note, when did the population (the cross section I see here) become so complacent?


Consider the location. They are inside a library. The tazer is probably the safest way to insure compliance.

are you serious?

Sit back, relax, nobody got hurt.
I think the police acted correctly. If there is any kind of investigation, they will be foud to have acted lawfully.


i think you are dumb, they taze a guy for not leaving a library? wtf is that ****** i can see tazing someone for not leaving a secure area in the air port, but not a library its just stupid

Whats with the name calling?


if you read my earlier post a similar situation happened to me earlier today, thats why this kinda ****** angers me
 

Aharami

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Originally posted by: maziwanka
Originally posted by: swimscubasteve
Originally posted by: maziwanka
im shocked that some of you people think that when a cop demands you to do something and you don't comply he can physically assault you. he can arrest you and that's all that should have been done. his actions in no way warranted tazering and certainly not FIVE tazers. un-fvcking-believable. i hope the school gets royally sued.

Where do people get these ideas!?!

HELLO!! It's called state law! If you don't listen to a cop when he tells you to do something he has full legal authority to "assault" you.

DUHHH!!

you have got to be sh1tting me.

i dont think i can even justify this response with a counter.

mazi...just remember $hit like this when you become a judge man.
I'd love to see some of the idiots here defending the officers' actions here get assaulted like that when it's not warranted.

Are cops that weak these days that two of them cant carry out a guy w/o resorting to tasers?

disgusting
 

FelixDeCat

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I see many a tasering in that guys future.

"Patriot Act" :roll:

This reminds me of all the knuckle heads who thought shouting, "Rodney King" back in the early 90s would prevent arrest, must less the resulting forceful takedown.


Cuff 'em and stuff 'em baby!! :beer: