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Guy arrested for stealing wi-fi

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Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: KillyKillall

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

You are a turd. Get off the internet

While I don't agree with KillyKillall, I think you need a look in the mirror. Don't worry, if I ever step on you I'll be courtious enough to scrape you off on the sidewalk.
 
That doesn't look like a complex to me... it's a single building by itself surrounded by a parking lot which seems intended only for customers of Brewed Awakenings...

Here's a photo from the front of the store... yep, it's a single building alright... so it's almost certainly a PRIVATE parking lot.
 
Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: KillyKillall
Since when is being in a public parking lot trespassing? They don't own the lot and can't tell him not to be in it.
It never once said it was a public parking lot. Most parking lots are private. Unless otherwise stated, I just assume when you drive up to a business' parking lot, then it is the business' parking lot and not a city owned parking lot. And even then, you can trespass on city public property.

i doubt any public parking lots exist....someone owns it and even if the city owns it the city can ask you to leave so its not totally public

with that said..if the coffee shop rents or leases the shop and parking lot, that pretty much means the land owner has given them the right to provide service and parking to whoever they want....

otherwise only your landlord would be able to kick someone else out of your apartment/rented house/yard since you dont own the apartment or lot.


That makes the most sense to me. I'll go with that and give in on this. I guess I'm the only one that thinks the way I do about this. I'll stop posting about it.
 
The employees used 911 to report this guy. What a joke.

The guy was told to leave private property and also probably broke store policy, he is in the wrong.
 
Originally posted by: SampSon
The employees used 911 to report this guy. What a joke.

Glad to see I'm not the only one who caught that...it's not exactly an emergency..
 
Originally posted by: KillyKillall
I guess I'm the only one that thinks the way I do about this. I'll stop posting about it.
We also agree being arrested for stealing wi-fi is absurd. I see your point. In normal cases, you should not be arrested for it - you should be sued for it.

He just did far more than just steal wi-fi however. And for all that he deserves to be booked and released to scare him away for good.

 
Originally posted by: SampSon
The employees used 911 to report this guy. What a joke.

The guy was told to leave private property and also probably broke store policy, he is in the wrong.

Oh, and according to a copy of the story in the San Francisco Gate, the guy is a convicted sex offender... so who know what in the heck this guy was viewing on his laptop....
 
Originally posted by: Maximus96
OT: since these parking lots are private, are you legally required to obay the "stop" signs? can cops write you up on private property?

No. traffic laws do not appy on private property.
 
Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: SampSon
The employees used 911 to report this guy. What a joke.

Glad to see I'm not the only one who caught that...it's not exactly an emergency..

im thinking they called 911 either because:

1. he was acting creepy....you know a nerd that has lost his broadband connection and has to step his 'pastey white skin been in my mother basement since i was weened from her teet' ass is a creepy site fo sho

2. was surfing for porn and killign kittens?

3. annoying other patrons and or being a bandwidth hog

4. threatened them (think of the e-penis posted on here) ill kick your ass! ill sue you!!

5. was acting ..umm terrorist like?!
 
Originally posted by: jman19
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: KillyKillall

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

You are a turd. Get off the internet

While I don't agree with KillyKillall, I think you need a look in the mirror. Don't worry, if I ever step on you I'll be courtious enough to scrape you off on the sidewalk.

What the fvck is that supposed to mean? And I looked in the mirror and all I saw was myself.
 
Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: SampSon
The employees used 911 to report this guy. What a joke.

Glad to see I'm not the only one who caught that...it's not exactly an emergency..

im thinking they called 911 either because:

1. he was acting creepy....you know a nerd that has lost his broadband connection and has to step his 'pastey white skin been in my mother basement since i was weened from her teet' ass is a creepy site fo sho

2. was surfing for porn and killign kittens?

3. annoying other patrons and or being a bandwidth hog

4. threatened them (think of the e-penis posted on here) ill kick your ass! ill sue you!!

5. was acting ..umm terrorist like?!
He was in his truck, which was parked in the parking lot.
 
Originally posted by: BooGiMaN

im thinking they called 911 either because:

1. he was acting creepy....you know a nerd that has lost his broadband connection and has to step his 'pastey white skin been in my mother basement since i was weened from her teet' ass is a creepy site fo sho

2. was surfing for porn and killign kittens?

3. annoying other patrons and or being a bandwidth hog

4. threatened them (think of the e-penis posted on here) ill kick your ass! ill sue you!!

5. was acting ..umm terrorist like?!

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say option #2 given the facts that he's a 20-year old male, a convicted sex offender, he stayed inside of his truck to surf, surfed for hours every morning, and sufficiently creeped out the coffee shop staff.
 
Originally posted by: MathMan
Originally posted by: SampSon
The employees used 911 to report this guy. What a joke.

The guy was told to leave private property and also probably broke store policy, he is in the wrong.

Oh, and according to a copy of the story in the San Francisco Gate, the guy is a convicted sex offender... so who know what in the heck this guy was viewing on his laptop....

I don't think the fact that he's a convicted sex offender should have anything to do with this unless they KNEW he was viewing inappropriate stuff on his laptop, and if that was the case they ought to get the police involved in monitoring that so they can send him to jail again.
 
Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: SampSon
The employees used 911 to report this guy. What a joke.

Glad to see I'm not the only one who caught that...it's not exactly an emergency..

im thinking they called 911 either because:

1. he was acting creepy....you know a nerd that has lost his broadband connection and has to step his 'pastey white skin been in my mother basement since i was weened from her teet' ass is a creepy site fo sho

2. was surfing for porn and killign kittens?

3. annoying other patrons and or being a bandwidth hog

4. threatened them (think of the e-penis posted on here) ill kick your ass! ill sue you!!

5. was acting ..umm terrorist like?!

Still, it's not exactly an emergency -- calling the station or dispatch would've worked just fine, without adding additional 911 traffic.
 
Here's the question, though.

If he was in fact viewing inappropriate material (as dictated by his release), do they have probable cause to search the laptop for it?
 
Ok... I was reading on another news website that the guy would occasionally come in the shop from time to time to use the restroom. But sometimes he came in only to grab a few napkins...
 
Originally posted by: MathMan
Ok... I was reading on another news website that the guy would occasionally come in the shop from time to time to use the restroom. But sometimes he came in only to grab a few napkins...

Hah, that's gross 😛
 
Originally posted by: Ronin
Here's the question, though.

If he was in fact viewing inappropriate material (as dictated by his release), do they have probable cause to search the laptop for it?

Good question...I don't know.
 
Originally posted by: MathMan
Ok... I was reading on another news website that the guy would occasionally come in the shop from time to time to use the restroom. But sometimes he came in only to grab a few napkins...

OK, that's WAY more information then I needed....
 
Originally posted by: KillyKillall

The coffee shop told him to leave, not the land owner. I'm assuming this was in a complex and that the "manager" of the coffee shop didn't own. They can't tell people that they can't enter the complex and enter other stores or loiter in the parking lot.

the parking lot is for the business invitees of the stores that lease space. this guy had been kicked off the premises by the business. it becomes trespassing when he refuses to leave. the owner of the property has no right to possession of leased premises, and so is not the one with authority to determine who stays/goes with regard to leased premises, such as the parking lot.
 
If I would have known it was Michael Jackson I never would have started the thread. BTW, any ATOT posters been MIA for the last day or two?
 
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: jman19
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: KillyKillall

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

You are a turd. Get off the internet

While I don't agree with KillyKillall, I think you need a look in the mirror. Don't worry, if I ever step on you I'll be courtious enough to scrape you off on the sidewalk.

What the fvck is that supposed to mean? And I looked in the mirror and all I saw was myself.


i think he is calling you a Periplaneta americana or in other words cockroachus americanus 😛
 
The idiot didnt leave, he was warned.

I think this is a touchy issue, they have a free wireless access point, they accept the consequences of people leeching off it.

But this guy was told to leave and didnt, so imo crossed the line. Now if he was in his house, I think the coffee shop is screwed because they have "free" internet access.

Lock it down numbskulls if you dont want leechers.

Be funny to see the Masters history and english degree holders working behind counter try to figure out how to lock it down lmao.
 
Originally posted by: Ronin
Here's the question, though.

If he was in fact viewing inappropriate material (as dictated by his release), do they have probable cause to search the laptop for it?

probably not. all you have is a mere suspicion, which doesn't amount to reasonable suspicion, much less probable cause (which, as one commentator pointed out, doesn't even have to be probable, but lawyers don't understand odds for the most part so the commentator didn't realize that odds of 30%-20%-15%-15%-15%-5%, the 30% is the probable outcome)
 
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