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enwar3

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So... I used to think guns were super bad and the world would be better off without them, but with all the gun control stuff I've read lately, I've been thinking it's not that bad of an idea to get to know how to use one.

I was gonna take a gun safety class if I couldn't get a job this summer, and since it's looking like I'm not (FRKKING GSHKL😀HFPS"OJ:"EWNL:SFNM), I'm wondering where to start.

First of all, I don't turn 18 til July. Is there some law that doesn't let minors use guns?
 
As far as I know, at <18 in Alabama you can carry anything (legal) except a hangun. You may have to get an adult to buy and register it.
 
Well, if you are looking into a good starter gun, and since you have never used one before, I would suggest something like a ruger 10/22 or something like that. Make sure you get it with iron sights, and get proficient with the iron sights before you get a scope for it, you will just be cheating yourself if you do not. It amazes me even around here the amount of people who cannot use their iron sights well. You can always put a scope on it later.

A .22 will be a good starter rifle though, as it is dirt cheap to shoot, no recoil, and not much noise. You pretty much have nothing to do but work up from there.
 
Funny that I just came on here to post about my purchase today.

Ended up being 615 otd. Picking it up next friday after the waiting period.

EDIT: .40 s&w. I'll pick up the 357 barrel for it down the line some time.
 
Kelvrick, that's a nice weapon there. I've been wanting to add a Sig to my small collection. Right now I have a Bersa Thunder .380, a Smith and Wesson M&P .40 and a Kimber Eclipse Pro II .45. How do you like the Sig? Have you had a chance to take it to the range yet?


Oops, I see you don't pick it up til next Friday. You'll have to post how you like it.
 
Topic Title: Guns
Topic Summary: Where to get started?
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Start doing arm curls. And if you need to enhance the power of the other gun....I do believe there are herbal treatments....and Cialis.
 
Originally posted by: enwar3
So... I used to think guns were super bad and the world would be better off without them, but with all the gun control stuff I've read lately, I've been thinking it's not that bad of an idea to get to know how to use one.

I was gonna take a gun safety class if I couldn't get a job this summer, and since it's looking like I'm not (FRKKING GSHKL😀HFPS"OJ:"EWNL:SFNM), I'm wondering where to start.

First of all, I don't turn 18 til July. Is there some law that doesn't let minors use guns?
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The following classes of people are ineligible to possess, receive, ship, or transport firearms or ammunition:

Those convicted of crimes punishable by imprisonment for over one year, except state misdemeanors punishable by two years or less.
Fugitives from justice.
Unlawful users of certain depressant, narcotic, or stimulant drugs.
Those adjudicated as mental defectives or incompetents or those committed to any mental institution.
Illegal aliens.
Citizens who have renounced their citizenship.
Those persons dishonorably discharged from the Armed Forces.
Persons less than 18 years of age for the purchase of a shotgun or rifle.
Persons less than 21 years of age for the purchase of a firearm that is other than a shotgun or rifle.
Persons subject to a court order that restrains such persons from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner.
Persons convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence.

An individual 21 years of age or older may acquire a handgun from a dealer federally licensed to sell firearms in the individual's state of residence
An individual 18 years of age or older may purchase a rifle or shotgun from a federally licensed dealer in any state


I would agree with adairusmc about getting a .22 rifle. they are just fun and easy to shoot because of virtually no recoil and very inexpensive ammo. It will be a good learning firearm.

The Ruger 10/22 is really popular. I own a Henry Goldenboy lever action .22 that is really nice, although a bit expensive for a .22 at about $350. Henry does make less expensive models too though (less than $200).

you'll have to wait a bit to get a handgun unless you have a parent or someone 21+ buy it for you and have it registered under their name.
 
In most states you can be 18 and possess a handgun, just can't buy it from an actual dealer. However, I believe in AL you must be 21 to possess. You didn't specify handgun or rifle or what not, but I think a 10/22 is a decent suggestion to get your feet wet. A 9mm glock, perhaps a model 19 would also be an easy choice.
 
I live in Vancouver, WA.

I was thinking a handgun, but if a rifle is easier to start with, I can go with that. I'm in no hurry to learn. I was also hoping I could rent a gun and buy ammo at the range, since I'm not old enough to legally own a gun and it'd be a lot easier to learn from someone actually AT the range.
 
A .22 rifle is a great starter gun along with a 12 gauge pump shotgun. People may mock me for saying a 12 gauge is a good starter but my 12 gauge pump kicked less than my single shot 20 gauge b/c of the weight difference and distribution. A 9mm is a good target pistol too.
 
Originally posted by: enwar3
I live in Vancouver, WA.

I was thinking a handgun, but if a rifle is easier to start with, I can go with that. I'm in no hurry to learn. I was also hoping I could rent a gun and buy ammo at the range, since I'm not old enough to legally own a gun and it'd be a lot easier to learn from someone actually AT the range.
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Pick up a 10/22 from Bi-Mart when they're on sale for like $150. Get a Hot Lips 25 round magazine, a mag loader, and a brick of .22 and you'll be set for a while.

The nice thing about the 10/22 is the huge aftermarket for them, so you can upgrade your rifle as you get better and end up hating the trigger. 😛 There's tons of target stocks and barrels, upgrades for the internals, it's like freaking Legos for grown ups.
 
id say go to your local firing range. they not only hold classes on gun safety, but the ones around here actually rent firearms you can shoot. thats a great way to get used to the feel of different guns and ammo, as well as learn something about safety and handling. too tempting to mess around if you go buy your own i think, and lots of chance for disaster.
 
Originally posted by: gooseman
Kelvrick, that's a nice weapon there. I've been wanting to add a Sig to my small collection. Right now I have a Bersa Thunder .380, a Smith and Wesson M&P .40 and a Kimber Eclipse Pro II .45. How do you like the Sig? Have you had a chance to take it to the range yet?


Oops, I see you don't pick it up til next Friday. You'll have to post how you like it.
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Will do. I'm planning on a very long lunch that day.
 
Originally posted by: enwar3
I live in Vancouver, WA.

I was thinking a handgun, but if a rifle is easier to start with, I can go with that. I'm in no hurry to learn. I was also hoping I could rent a gun and buy ammo at the range, since I'm not old enough to legally own a gun and it'd be a lot easier to learn from someone actually AT the range.
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HAHAHA, well hell, you're in my backyard. I'm on my way out right now but I'll message you with all the applicable laws/rules and suggestions when I get home. If nothing else works for you because of costs or whatever I'll give you an invite to my next set of classes, or set you up with a friends class down there.
 
A cheapo shotgun is fun for skeet shooting, if you have a little bit of land to do it on or a local outdoor range that allows it.
 
Another vote for a 10/22.
Another good option for something a bit bigger is an SKS. It aint the prettiest girl at the ball but she sure does like to dance. Both can be had for under 200. A modified 10/22 is wickedly, wickedly accurate. Like ragged hole at 50 yards and well beyond. An SKS is more akin to throwing a hotdog down a hallway, but there still quite fun.

As for pistols, thats for you to decide. Try as many as you can. I'm very fond of Sig and own a P228. A CZ-52 is a very unique pistol and with conversions you can attain near rifle speeds out of a pistol. Blazing fast. Springfield XD series are nice, HK, S&W has some good ones, lots and lots of good pistols to choose from. The biggest thing is how it feels to you. I hate Glocks just because for me they dont feel right, but they are another top notch pistol maker.

If you step up in price you have AK's which are alot of fun. FAL's are cool. AR15's are like Lego sets for big kids.
 
A good cheap way to get into "guns" would be to start with military surplus. Not many handguns, well I take that back, there are a good selection of handguns, but much more rifles and the like. You can pick up excellent shooters for under $150. There is a lot of history in them and they are really fun. Ammo can be spotty and usually require cleaning after use due to corrosive primers, but even ammo is cheap. 8 mm mausers are my thing.

Russian Mosin-Nagants are even a cheaper to get your rifle on. Plus they have a wicked flash blast. I am talking about about 2-3 feet of fire in front of your muzzle on each shot. Rifles are cheap....in the $40-90 range.

Most of these warhorses can kill most North American game if needed for hunting.
 
lol so the consensus is to get a cheap rifle to being with, some ammo, and a range that will let me shoot there?

Or I could see if I could rent a handgun at the range. Keep in mind I'm still not 18...
 
Originally posted by: Boo Boo
get a AK variant they run 300.00 and ammos cheap
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Boy, I wish that 7.62x39 really was cheap. .223 is cheaper most places than 7.62x39. Even the price of Wolf seems to have gone up recently.

 
Originally posted by: enwar3
lol so the consensus is to get a cheap rifle to being with, some ammo, and a range that will let me shoot there?

Or I could see if I could rent a handgun at the range. Keep in mind I'm still not 18...
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Warning. Most indoor ranges do NOT allow rifles (except for .22). Something about the noise in a confined space being too loud. 😉

If you are restricted to indoor ranges only, either a pistol/revolver or a .22 rifle are all fine choices, depending upon your age and/or preferences.

I have an SKS, and my middle-aged eyes have trouble with the iron sights. You CANNOT reliably scope an SKS (at least now without drilling some holes and cutting some wood). Keep this in mind. Otherwise, my SKS is fun to shoot and cheap (both good things).
 
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