Guns in the movie "Heat"?

flood

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I remember pacino uses the mp5 in the bank shootout scene.
Does anyone know what kilmer and deniro used?
Car15 or M16?... I always thought the M16 would be louder...
Anyone know what handguns they use?

All this couterstrike and r6 is getting to me! :D
 

biohazard2

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the M4 cabine is nothing more than a compact M16. If I remember right they may have been H&K G3A3s. nice powerful assault riffles :)
 

flood

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I bet deniro and his gang would have gotten away had they used mp5sd5 's
 

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naw, the new UMP45 is much nicer :) stock MP5 only uses a 9mm or .38cal round, while the new one's are .45cal. FAST rate of fire, big powerful rounds, just what I want to take out my room mates evil cat.
 

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remember when kilmer was about to get in the car and starte shootin at the cops? If it had been the mp5-sd5, no one woulda heard him fire...


now that i think about it, deniro's gun sounds more like a carbine than a m16
 

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Firearm noises are useally dubbed over in the editing suite or the sound studio using sound effects library recordings. So you won't get anywhere trying to recognise a firearm from the noise it makes in a film. Its the same with automobile noise, where they'l have a car chase scene & some 60s muscle car has a sound like a F1 car, or you'l have a Chryler Neone burble like a V8 without a balance pipe, just because the soundman thought it sounded good, or crossplys squealing like radials or vice-a-versa, or a FWD making RWD power-oversteer squeals. My old man was a award winning cinimatographer & you wouldn't beleive half the sh!t that went on. Actually with most action scenes they don't even have any mics setup & all the sounds are added afterwards.

Even most stunts are just edited together footage of lots of mundane little movements, like Stallone jumping off a cliff & falling through a tree in the first Rambo film. Which was put together from half a dozen different shots. The first of which would have been him jumping down a embankment a yard deep & then half a dozen shots of him falling through branches taken in a studio. So in reality there was ah heck all of a stunt. Really most action sequences are 95% editing & sound effects.