Gun violence. Is it the guns or is it the criminals?

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dank69

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You are using a very slippery definition of "mental health" here. You are at risk of going full Moonbeam.

In any case, the treatments for 'mental health' conditions, even defined much more restrictively than you are doing here, are really not terribly effective. The whole topic is not very well understood, even if some people sometimes pretend otherwise. But you seem to be using it some fuzzy sense of "making human beings behave in a completely rational and moral manner at all times".
Just to expand on your excellent point, even the most mentally healthy among us could snap under the right circumstances.
 
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Moonbeam

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You are using a very slippery definition of "mental health" here. You are at risk of going full Moonbeam.

In any case, the treatments for 'mental health' conditions, even defined much more restrictively than you are doing here, are really not terribly effective. The whole topic is not very well understood, even if some people sometimes pretend otherwise. But you seem to be using it some fuzzy sense of "making human beings behave in a completely rational and moral manner at all times".
It is rather sad that a person so well informed about the problems attendant to the issue of mental health should actually have a drawn a bigoted and ultimately ill informed opinion based on your own personal bad experience. In the first place people seek psychotherapy not to get better but to become better at being sick and most therapist are attracted to the field because of their own mental illness. It is likely also that many are there for the money and are as jaded about life as you seem to be.

Given the above, the mass denial that self hated is almost universal and definitely true in your case, it is no surprise that very few become completely healed. In your case you were misdiagnosed at great personal suffering so now you tar and feather what strikes you as the cause, the mental health industry. I find you to be arrogant in the disparagement of a field in which, despite the flaws in patients and doctors alike many find better ways to see the world. Stop being an arrogant asshole. A rotten apple spoils the whole barrel. Don't be that person. You have likely never met a person with real knowledge. The risk you face going full Moonbeam is just a projection of the fear you would have to face to become more like me. You happened to have run into somebody who knows a few things you do not and your ego can't handle it.

I love your negativity for the insight it brings you. It's just too bad you let it get you down. It would help you to know that what you see in the world is how you feel about yourself and because the world is full of people just like you it makes it very real. But not everybody is unaware that what they feel only makes the world look like it does when in fact everything is absolutely perfect. There is only love. Be kinder and wake up. You were always OK before you got stuffed full of conditioning.
 

Moonbeam

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Just to expand on your excellent point, even the most mentally healthy among us could snap under the right circumstances.
And what do you imagine happens when people snap. Bet it's that they suddenly experience something that causes them to suddenly feel their real feelings of self hate projected onto the world as some gigantic slap in the face. Some people will kill you just by looking at them. The same thing happen, I think in a panic attack. The monsters rise from the ID so to speak. Yo ate from the tree of Knowledge which gave you the power to think and compare and then you were told and believed you were worthless, the original sin. Lucky are those who don't know anything. It's the only truth they know. Please don't be upset when I tell you that you don't know anything. It's a wish for a blessing.
 

HomerJS

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General mental health issue and mental health when it comes to guns is more extensive.

Every person needs to be evaluated on their maturity level and mental fitness and their ability to properly manage a firearm.

Examples:

Someone with anger issues should never be allowed to own a gun.
Someone who leaves their firearm out in the open in a house with kids should never be allowed to own a gun
A domestic abuser should never be allowed to own a gun.

These are some criteria absent how to implement.

Gun owners need to be evaluated on a regular basis and scored on fitness to own.