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Gun safety, anyone?

Feb 10, 2000
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Get a load of this one for a sad but incredibly stupid story:


Gun in oven discharges and kills baby boy - The Niles-area infant who was killed Tuesday night was shot by a semiautomatic pistol that discharged from inside a heating oven, according to the Cass County Sheriff's Office.

I find it a bit surprising that an oven hot enough to cause a round's primer to fire did not at least start to melt the .40 Glock that went off, giving some warning to the stupid parents in this case. That polymer is tough stuff!
 

MichaelD

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Jan 16, 2001
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The term "negligent homocide" comes to mind. And they should be charged with it. Idiots. I've had handguns and a shotgun in my home since my son was an infant.

1. He has no idea I have them
2. They are out of his reach and hidden.
3. All but one are unloaded

When he is around, the one that is loaded goes up and out of his reach and hidden as well.

What the hell would compel someone to put a firearm in an oven? Oh, that's right; she's a woman.
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Go figure. I have an ex that loved to keep cans of spray room deodorizer on top of the stove.
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I truely am left speachless on the complete stupidity of this situation.
 
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<< 1. He has no idea I have them
2. They are out of his reach and hidden.
3. All but one are unloaded
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How about:
1. He knows I have them and knows to never, EVER touch them.
2. They are under lock & key, loaded or not.
 

Aves

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<< I truely am left speachless on the complete stupidity of this situation. >>

 

jlee

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How about:
1. He knows I have them and knows to never, EVER touch them.
2. They are under lock & key, loaded or not.
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I agree with #1...but strongly disagree with #2. If someone breaks into our house, I don't have the time to go find a key and unlock my firearm. With six other people (four under 16) in this house, I would be quite concerned as for their well-being if someone were to forcibly break into our home. My father (ex-cop) has a loaded handgun readily accessible, but it is not in the reach of small children. We are also educated about firearms, which drastically reduces any chance of a firearm-related accident.

Education about and respect for weapons, unloaded or not..that's the key to firearm safety.
 

PlatinumGold

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man. whatever, just don't put the guns in the oven. sheesh.

i'm not an anti gun nut, but people like this shouldn't be allowed to have guns. :)
 
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<< man. whatever, just don't put the guns in the oven. sheesh.

i'm not an anti gun nut, but people like this shouldn't be allowed to have guns. :)
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Well, they presumably won't be if they end up convicted of felonious child endangerment or negligent homicide, as is probably fair.
 

PsychoAndy

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ok, and a gun was in the oven...why?

oh wait. they were afraid of home invasion during dinnertime, so they could look like they are reaching for a pot roast instead of a .40 S&W. yeah, thats it
 

b0mbrman

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<< ok, and a gun was in the oven...why?

oh wait. they were afraid of home invasion during dinnertime, so they could look like they are reaching for a pot roast instead of a .40 S&W. yeah, thats it
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From the story:

"The child's grandmother, Donna Miller, placed the Glock .40-caliber pistol in her oven Tuesday morning after discovering it lying out in the kitchen area, police said. "
 

Maetryx

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Man, this really is a reminder to keep safety first. A temporarily unsafe situation can easily become a forgotten, and deadly, situation. If it's only safe so long as the situation is in ones memory, its probably not safe at all.
 
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<<

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How about:
1. He knows I have them and knows to never, EVER touch them.
2. They are under lock & key, loaded or not.
>>




I agree with #1...but strongly disagree with #2. If someone breaks into our house, I don't have the time to go find a key and unlock my firearm. With six other people (four under 16) in this house, I would be quite concerned as for their well-being if someone were to forcibly break into our home. My father (ex-cop) has a loaded handgun readily accessible, but it is not in the reach of small children. We are also educated about firearms, which drastically reduces any chance of a firearm-related accident.

Education about and respect for weapons, unloaded or not..that's the key to firearm safety.
>>



I understand what you are saying, but if it's unloaded, it's obvious you don't have quick accessibility in mind, so why not lock it up anyway? And if you want to keep one loaded & ready, that's fine, lock it in the nightstand and wear the key around your neck, get a safe with a quck combo lock, etc... There's really no excuse for having an unsecured firearm and a kid in the same house. Very few things stay out of reach or hidden very long when it comes to kids. I totally agree with your last statement, but let's not make it easy for an accident to happen.