I've owned a Gen3 before, and I traded it away earlier this year to get my dream wheel-gun (a decision I don't regret at all).
I disagree that the Gen3 feels better. I felt the grip circumference was too long and it the sides of the grip were too smooth. I had a Pachmayr grip sleeve on mine to give it enough tackiness.
The Gen4s recoil spring and extractor issues are all sorted at this point. I want a Glock because of (relatively) inexpensive, readily available high-cap magazines and accessories. Factory Glock magazines are ~$20 each and good quality Korean copies are ~$10 each. I can get a threaded G17 barrel for $125. Triggers and sights up the wazoo. But stock, it's an absurdly reliable soft-shooting handgun with a good enough trigger.
The only guns I cross-shopped were the M&P 9 (really nice handgun, stock trigger isn't as good as the Glocks) and the Walther PPQ (amazing stock trigger, sky-high magazine prices).
Glock didn't perfect the striker fired polymer handgun, but they're like the Honda Accord of the market. There are other models that beat it in certain categories but no one offers a better all-around package.
Glocks are $500 for 9mm variants. How is that a lot? Besides, they retain their value and you'd have no issue reselling the thing later for over its purchase price.
Thanks for the recommendation. Bought this rifle and got the matching AR-15 go with it.
So in the past few weeks I went from zero knowledge of guns to owning these:
- Sig P226 with Crimson Trace laser, four Mec Gar mags, and the Sig .22 conversion kit
- Colt 6920 with Aimpoint Pro
- Smith and Wesson M&P 15-22
- Smith and Wesson M&P 15 MOE
- Daniel Defense M4 V2 with a Eotech EOLAD
Not to mention 20,000 rounds of ammo, 20 extra mags for the AR-15s, several hearing and eye protection devices, cleaning kits, targets, additional lowers (for building more ARs later), locks, safes, etc.
Next up, I'm looking for about five more lowers and two more complete ARs (Sig M400 and Stag Arms Model 8). Then it's on to the 308 caliber guns.
All thanks to Obama and Feinstein - a couple of the greatest gun salespeople in history!
I dont know if its been flatout stated but Neither Glock, Sig, H&K, Kimber, or Springfield make great beginner guns. Too damn expensive for a hobby you may not necessarily enjoy.
If you are just starting I recommend a Ruger, Kahr, or one of the less expensive Smith & Wessons. Maybe Beretta if you can find a used one for less money than normal.
They just seem disproportionately popular compared to other polymer striker-fired handguns, so I like to pose the 'what else did you try' question.
Glocks have been around longer than the other polymer pistols, and offer more models. So I wouldn't consider them disproportionately popular.
If you want a polymer 10mm what are your options? Glock or Glock.
They only thing they are lacking in is single stack varieties. With the only options there being in .45.
You would rather have a 9mm. Much cheaper than either .40S&W or .45ACP, more common (it's a NATO standard), and very effective with modern self-defense loads.I'd rather have a 40 or 45. More common, better selection of weapons, cheaper ammo.
Which also means its cheaper to train with, which is needed for effective use of ANY weapon.
You would rather have a 9mm. Much cheaper than either .40S&W or .45ACP, more common (it's a NATO standard), and very effective with modern self-defense loads.
damn! i wish I had money to burn like that. that well over $5000 worth of guns and accessories
Well you mofos just made me buy another 1500 rounds of AK ammo.
What kind did you get? I've ordered four full cases of new production 7.62x39 in the last month. I also picked up another case of 7.62x39 locally; it was 2/3rds Norinco steel core, 1/3 Sako brass cased match ammo.Well you mofos just made me buy another 1500 rounds of AK ammo.
What kind did you get? I've ordered four full cases of new production 7.62x39 in the last month. I also picked up another case of 7.62x39 locally; it was 2/3rds Norinco steel core, 1/3 Sako brass cased match ammo.
Started receiving my optics:
So far I have an Aimpoint Pro, Aimpoint Comp M2 x2, and a Eotech EOLAD.
But, why did you get M2s when you could've just gotten 3 PROs? The M2s are in every way inferior to the PROs.
Also, I'd take a laterally mounted XPS EOTech over the traditional EOTechs. I think, given your budget, a nice setup would be an EXPS + DBAL.
Isn't that what an EOLAD is? A 552 mated with a Laser Device laser?
I got the EOLAD V1 with the red laser, instead of the green. Is there a reason why the green laser is $300 more expensive? I was told it comes down to just color preference, but that seem like a lot for mere preference.
http://www.laserdevices.com/index.cfm/p-EOLAD_133.htm
Green lasers are usually frequency doubled lasers. They require a fairly exotic crystal for the second harmonic generation. Because of this, they are a lot more expensive to fabricate than lower frequency solid state lasers such as red or IR lasers, hence the cost difference.
The 552 has the batteries mounted colinear with the bore. The newer EXPS requires one less battery, and it is mounted perpendicular to the bore, making it less susceptible to recoil. I don't really see the advantage of having the laser on the sight, which is why I suggested an EXPS EOTech and a standalone laser like a DBAL.