Gun Legislation: 11-20-2003 Guns Kill, not people

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dmcowen674

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11-20-2003 Appeals Court Reinstates Gun Lawsuit

SAN FRANCISCO - A federal appeals court Thursday reinstated a wrongful death lawsuit against the gun industry in a decision expected to re-ignite debate over legislation immunizing gun makers from being sued for crimes committed with their products.
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Next up, no more knives, we'll have to back to Caveman times and club our food.
 
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dirtboy

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Clubs can kill too, so we should ban them. We'll also need to ban fists, so everyone will have to get their hands cut off.
 
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rjain

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I guess miguel and dirtboy are therefore opposed to the Iraq War. Saddam merely owned WMDs. He didn't use them. Everyone should be allowed to own their own personal nuclear bomb.
 
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miguel

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Originally posted by: rjain
I guess miguel and dirtboy are therefore opposed to the Iraq War. Saddam merely owned WMDs. He didn't use them. Everyone should be allowed to own their own personal nuclear bomb.
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Errr, kinda quick to jump to conclusions, aren't you? Guns != WMD
 
MovingTarget

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Geez...this again. Why should the gun companies be held responsible for what People do with them? Are they responsible when somebody uses their product to kill? No. I could go knife somebody to death in a robbery and that would be MY fault, not hte fault of the knife maker. Also, some say that gun companies can be held responsible for guns "getting into the wrong hands". This would be the fault of said distributors if the violate laws concerning background checks/etc. If gun companies sold to distributors that were in violation of the law, then yes, they would be liable. The products that gun companies put out work as advertised - fire a projectile at a high rate of speed. We, via the second amendment, have the right to purchase and keep that product. If people use that "product" to break the law, that is thier decision, not the gun companies. Its sad, but what ever happened to personal responsibility in this country?
 
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dirtboy

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Originally posted by: rjain
I guess miguel and dirtboy are therefore opposed to the Iraq War. Saddam merely owned WMDs. He didn't use them. Everyone should be allowed to own their own personal nuclear bomb.
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ummm...errr...okay. Interesting conclusion.
 
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Genesys

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Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Geez...this again. Why should the gun companies be held responsible for what People do with them? Are they responsible when somebody uses their product to kill? No. I could go knife somebody to death in a robbery and that would be MY fault, not hte fault of the knife maker. Also, some say that gun companies can be held responsible for guns "getting into the wrong hands". This would be the fault of said distributors if the violate laws concerning background checks/etc. If gun companies sold to distributors that were in violation of the law, then yes, they would be liable. The products that gun companies put out work as advertised - fire a projectile at a high rate of speed. We, via the second amendment, have the right to purchase and keep that product. If people use that "product" to break the law, that is thier decision, not the gun companies. Its sad, but what ever happened to personal responsibility in this country?
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the democrats happened to this country
 
feralkid

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Originally posted by: Genesys
Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Geez...this again. Why should the gun companies be held responsible for what People do with them? Are they responsible when somebody uses their product to kill? No. I could go knife somebody to death in a robbery and that would be MY fault, not hte fault of the knife maker. Also, some say that gun companies can be held responsible for guns "getting into the wrong hands". This would be the fault of said distributors if the violate laws concerning background checks/etc. If gun companies sold to distributors that were in violation of the law, then yes, they would be liable. The products that gun companies put out work as advertised - fire a projectile at a high rate of speed. We, via the second amendment, have the right to purchase and keep that product. If people use that "product" to break the law, that is thier decision, not the gun companies. Its sad, but what ever happened to personal responsibility in this country?
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the democrats happened to this country
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I am so surprised that you would say that.

 
shiner

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Ahhh the 9th Circuit Court.....those crazy fun judges....

Much like many, many, many, many, many of thier decisions this to will be overturned.
 
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Genesys

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Originally posted by: feralkid
Originally posted by: Genesys
Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Geez...this again. Why should the gun companies be held responsible for what People do with them? Are they responsible when somebody uses their product to kill? No. I could go knife somebody to death in a robbery and that would be MY fault, not hte fault of the knife maker. Also, some say that gun companies can be held responsible for guns "getting into the wrong hands". This would be the fault of said distributors if the violate laws concerning background checks/etc. If gun companies sold to distributors that were in violation of the law, then yes, they would be liable. The products that gun companies put out work as advertised - fire a projectile at a high rate of speed. We, via the second amendment, have the right to purchase and keep that product. If people use that "product" to break the law, that is thier decision, not the gun companies. Its sad, but what ever happened to personal responsibility in this country?
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the democrats happened to this country
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I am so surprised that you would say that.
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whys that, cause its correct? i dont see republicans wanting to ban guns.
 
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seti920

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whys that, cause its correct? i dont see republicans wanting to ban guns.
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Reagan - 1986 FOPA - bans civvie ownership of class III select fire items manufactured after may '86

Bush 41 - '89 import ban per exec order

Bush 43 - has thus far assented to BATFE re-interpreting their rules so we can no longer import barrels & certain other parts; now FAL builders are SOL.
 
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Corn

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Any real suprise here? Here we have "progressive" activist judges legislating from the bench all the while wiping their asses with our constitution.
 
Zebo

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Originally posted by: Genesys
Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Geez...this again. Why should the gun companies be held responsible for what People do with them? Are they responsible when somebody uses their product to kill? No. I could go knife somebody to death in a robbery and that would be MY fault, not hte fault of the knife maker. Also, some say that gun companies can be held responsible for guns "getting into the wrong hands". This would be the fault of said distributors if the violate laws concerning background checks/etc. If gun companies sold to distributors that were in violation of the law, then yes, they would be liable. The products that gun companies put out work as advertised - fire a projectile at a high rate of speed. We, via the second amendment, have the right to purchase and keep that product. If people use that "product" to break the law, that is thier decision, not the gun companies. Its sad, but what ever happened to personal responsibility in this country?
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the democrats happened to this country
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Misnomer/. And Dean is more pro-gun than Police state Bush ever will be.

Lets look at every major crackdown on gun ownership:


In 94' the republican controlled congress passed "Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act" , which is the background-waiting period and 10 round ammo stuff. And the "Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act " aka AWB.

1972- BATF, Nixon Signed
1986- Law Enforcement Officers Protection Act and Firearms Owners' Protection Act , RR signed
1990- Crime Control Act Bush 1.00 signed.

I think it's a general trend by all to take power away from the people and rights and grow the laviathan Federal Governement. Plus crappy juries and judges.
 
Zebo

Zebo

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Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK
Guns make killing a lot easier.
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Exactly, it's known as the "great equalizer". I read stories all the time how x lady walking to teach her late college class held off 3 rapists with a little pistol in NRA pubs not covered by press TextThey only cover trageties. But they don't care about any of the constitution but for thier right to slander.
 
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Genesys

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: Genesys
Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Geez...this again. Why should the gun companies be held responsible for what People do with them? Are they responsible when somebody uses their product to kill? No. I could go knife somebody to death in a robbery and that would be MY fault, not hte fault of the knife maker. Also, some say that gun companies can be held responsible for guns "getting into the wrong hands". This would be the fault of said distributors if the violate laws concerning background checks/etc. If gun companies sold to distributors that were in violation of the law, then yes, they would be liable. The products that gun companies put out work as advertised - fire a projectile at a high rate of speed. We, via the second amendment, have the right to purchase and keep that product. If people use that "product" to break the law, that is thier decision, not the gun companies. Its sad, but what ever happened to personal responsibility in this country?
Click to expand...

the democrats happened to this country
Click to expand...

Misnomer/. And Dean is more pro-gun than Police state Bush ever will be.

Lets look at every major crackdown on gun ownership:


In 94' the republican controlled congress passed "Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act" , which is the background-waiting period and 10 round ammo stuff. And the "Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act " aka AWB.

1972- BATF, Nixon Signed
1986- Law Enforcement Officers Protection Act and Firearms Owners' Protection Act , RR signed
1990- Crime Control Act Bush 1.00 signed.

I think it's a general trend by all to take power away from the people and rights and grow the laviathan Federal Governement. Plus crappy juries and judges.
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it doesnt appear dean is "pro gun" at all. it appears he has no feelings on gun legislation
 
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